Shit just went sideways. RIP Justice Ginsburg

"boredalways" (boredalway666) 09/18/2020 at 19:47 • Filed to: Ruth Based Ginsburg, RIP, Scotus

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For Sweden > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 19:51

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Help how do I block Americans from the internet for six months

I can't handle the heat and frequency of the takes

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 19:51

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Blame Harry Reid for what’s about to happen...

My bird IS the word > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 19:52

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DC right now:

ttyymmnn > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 19:52

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I’m sure the Republicans will do as the did  with Obama and wait until after the election to replace her.

pip bip - choose Corrour > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 19:54

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*sad trombone*

boredalways > ttyymmnn 09/18/2020 at 19:56

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True, but I'm worried that they would do so immediately.  Even if tRump loses.

PatBateman > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 09/18/2020 at 19:58

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Everyone forgot about the nuclear option he used.

They’re about to remember.

functionoverfashion > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:00

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Oh fuck

gettingoldercarguy > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:02

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If Mitch does throw in another conservative, my wife just said she wants to accelerate our emigration to nz.  We'll see.

WilliamsSW > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:03

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RIP RBG

also RIP USA

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > PatBateman 09/18/2020 at 20:03

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yeah, that was the slippery slope.

Now, we just need to see how much of a hypocrite Mitch is...  But I think we know.

Nick Has an Exocet > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:09

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I bet every single obituary that just went live has been pre-written for well over a year. Most papers will do this because people are inconsiderate and die on Friday’s after everyone went home from the office already.

I’m a little bit surprised that the DNC didn’t manage to pull a Weekend At Bernie’s.

boredalways > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 09/18/2020 at 20:09

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True, but think of how out of whack the U.S. Court of Appeals would be right now.

fintail > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:10

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So which unrepentant piece of shit will be chosen to replace her? Barr?  Rudy?  Ivanka?

boredalways > gettingoldercarguy 09/18/2020 at 20:17

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If so, would she be ok with a mass adoption?

Asking for Oppo.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:17

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This came up the other day... Barry was SO convinced that Clinton was a lock that, as a favor, he left 140 of those seats vacant for her to fill . We’ll be dealing with the Trump Court for decades to come— but the other party did most of the heavy lifting to enable that.

Nothing > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:18

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Shit.

RIP RBG.

WilliamsSW > fintail 09/18/2020 at 20:20

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The Zodiac Killer

boredalways > Nick Has an Exocet 09/18/2020 at 20:21

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“ I’m a little bit surprised that the DNC didn’t manage to pull a Weekend At Bernie’s.”

I'm going to hell for giggling.

facw > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 09/18/2020 at 20:23

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What Reid did was retaliation for the unprecedented obstructionism of lower level judicial picks. I don’t know if it was a good idea, but given the state of the GOP, I think it’s pretty naive to believe they wouldn’t have eliminated the filibuster for Supreme Court picks once they had the presidency again anyway. 

boredalways > fintail 09/18/2020 at 20:25

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I bet tRump wished Kim Kardashian had her law degree now.  As for Ivanka, there's no way he would want to be separated from her for longer than 72 hrs.

fintail > WilliamsSW 09/18/2020 at 20:25

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That’d be a great way to finish off 2020.

I need to win that Powerball so I can buy residency elsewhere.

fintail > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:26

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Probably Stormy Dani els, too. Good point about Ivanka, keep the eye candy around, although she might be too old for him now.

Melania has an architecture degree and speaks like 8 languages, right? She might have a law degree, too.

WilliamsSW > fintail 09/18/2020 at 20:27

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That or he nominates one of his kids.

Fuck it why not Barron

fintail > WilliamsSW 09/18/2020 at 20:28

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There’s a greater than zero chance.

boredalways > fintail 09/18/2020 at 20:29

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Too bad "Melanie" doesn't speak English too well.  Then again, it would be another opportunity for him to cheat on again.

fintail > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:31

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Represent those wholesome American conservative values.

gettingoldercarguy > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:33

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I wish, sorry man.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > facw 09/18/2020 at 20:33

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I dunno about that... There were centuries of precedent on the line when Harry blinked. Of course, the joke was that a lot of good bills, with overwhelming support in the House, would “go to die” in Reid’s desk— anything that would put Obama on the spot somehow never made it to the Senate floor.

But, there’s no doubt that Reid pressed the Red Button on the nuclear option.

boredalways > fintail 09/18/2020 at 20:34

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Worked for Falwell Jr. amirite.  Hmm, I wonder if Mother will allow Pence to comment on another woman?

fintail > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 20:35

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No chance. He doesn’t have independent thoughts.

boredalways > gettingoldercarguy 09/18/2020 at 20:35

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Damn...maybe she knows someone who can?

boredalways > WilliamsSW 09/18/2020 at 20:38

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Oddly, Barron would be the mature pick.  Too bad he's not legal.  

vondon302 > fintail 09/18/2020 at 20:39

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This!

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > fintail 09/18/2020 at 20:52

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There’s already been rumbles about Barr. Compensation for his services to the Trump crime family

facw > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 09/18/2020 at 20:55

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Those centuries of precedent have been unraveling at least since Newt Gingrich became speaker, and I’m sure you can find traces before then. That involves actions from both parties, but there’s a pretty clear trend. The mere fact that the GOP was willing to block so many nominees says that they weren’t worried too much about existing norms. And of course the nuclear option had only barely been defeated the last time the Republicans controlled both the presidency and the Senate, and three of the seven GOP members of the Gang of 14 were no longer in the Senate, and a 4th had announced she would retire at the end of the year.

So maybe the GOP would have held back, but I really doubt it.

RallyWrench > WilliamsSW 09/18/2020 at 20:55

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BRB going to Mad Max my cars.

Deal Killer - Powered by Focus > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 21:01

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There is no requirement that you have a law degree to be on the court. Trump could nominate Eric and if the senate confirms him, he’son the court.  

fintail > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 09/18/2020 at 21:01

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The same reason Christie is persona non grata - he went after conman daddy Kushner.

Barr is absolute garbage, and anyone who supports him is scum.

WilliamsSW > RallyWrench 09/18/2020 at 21:02

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Wise move

WilliamsSW > Nick Has an Exocet 09/18/2020 at 21:05

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The Dems would have failed spectacularly if they tried it.  They're... Not good at things

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > fintail 09/18/2020 at 21:05

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Oh yeah, he’s definitely the Himm ler or Goe bbels of this administration

fintail > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 09/18/2020 at 21:07

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Himmler - round glasses.

Shit, Stephen Miller even kind of looks like Goebbels. 

DipodomysDeserti > RallyWrench 09/18/2020 at 21:27

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I’ve been increasing the Mad Maxability of my fleet.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 21:27

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The Republicans pulled that shit right before an election before, the same thing should happen in this case since they have precedent now. If this country pulls this shit and then elects Trump again, I think I’m done. This system of government is flawed if that happens, somehow we are at the mercy of people dying and then replacements getting life terms. From now on people will have to retire in good health  and let a president they agree with replace them, how else can you protect it.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > fintail 09/18/2020 at 21:28

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He has a list, probably a 25 year old far right piece of shit. 

ttyymmnn > fintail 09/18/2020 at 21:30

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Jared?

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > gettingoldercarguy 09/18/2020 at 21:30

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I’ve always wanted to live there, I like the culture and the mix of outdoors. I liked Hawaii but it doesn’t have the other climates you can get in NZ. 

someassemblyrequired > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 21:32

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Where’s the Men’s Wearhouse guy, because I guarantee it. Especially if he loses.

someassemblyrequired > For Sweden 09/18/2020 at 21:32

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The problem with the hottest of my hot takes from 2016 is that they weren’t hot enough

boredalways > Deal Killer - Powered by Focus 09/18/2020 at 21:33

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fintail > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 09/18/2020 at 21:33

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That POS high schooler who got that settlement after being on TV? The wanna-Nazi who got punched and made into a meme?

Someone like David Duke could be in the running, too.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > For Sweden 09/18/2020 at 21:33

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If they force this somehow and Trump is elected again I might be out of here, fucking stupid assholes.

fintail > ttyymmnn 09/18/2020 at 21:33

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Not outside the realm of possibility. I mean, he just created peace in the Middle East!

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > fintail 09/18/2020 at 21:35

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I believe the guy that got punched is somehow against Trump, I think I read that and was surprised. A nominee has to meet the legal requirement. They try to break things like that and term limits and we are going to have a war. 

arl > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 21:38

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Rip RGB

Dear Universe, I was Just  kidding last month when I said it couldn’t get any worse in 2020.

fintail > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 09/18/2020 at 21:40

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There are no personal requirements, right? Just pass nomination - it’s an open door.

Deplorables, I mean fine right-leaning freedom-loving fellow citizens are itching for a war.

DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever > Nick Has an Exocet 09/18/2020 at 21:42

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I’m a little bit surprised that the DNC didn’t manage to pull a Weekend At Bernie’s.

Plot twist, they’ve been pulling a weekend at berine’s for weeks/months now.

boredalways > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 09/18/2020 at 21:47

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“ This system of government is flawed if that happens”

NOW you think it’s flawed ?!?!?!

But seriously, there's no one to blame us.  I know you and I did our parts.  But when you have to worry about the competence of 200-275 million eligible voters....

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > fintail 09/18/2020 at 21:47

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Well according to the law:

“ The Constitution does not specify qualifications for Justices such as age, education, profession, or native-born citizenship. A Justice does not have to be a lawyer or a law school graduate, but all Justices have been trained in the law.”

Whatever than means, our country has some major flaws, I keep finding out total bullshit that I can’t believe is the case. 

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 21:48

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Well since 2016 I have learned some things I didn’t know about, it seems pretty insane. 

boredalways > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 09/18/2020 at 21:59

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Yeah, it sad how much information has been withheld from Americans for centuries. Even if we learnt at least 5 % of what has been withheld from the 20th Century, we wouldn't be in this shit right now.

fintail > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 09/18/2020 at 22:01

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Ugh, sounds like an open door.  I knew there was no JD requirement etc, but that’s just lip service.    Probably harder to become a notary public.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 22:01

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Well some people are posting some light at the end of a tunnel of shit:

DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE

Lisa Murkowski and Chuck Grassley have indicated that they would *not* move forward with an election year SC nomination.

Tillis and Collins know that their Senate careers are over if they vote to replace.

And Mark Kelly could be sworn in as soon as Nov. 30.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > fintail 09/18/2020 at 22:02

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I can’t believe they don’t have to have been a judge at some level. I don’t get it. 

fintail > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 09/18/2020 at 22:03

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Nothing surprises me anymore.

boredalways > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 09/18/2020 at 22:11

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Don't believe the hype, because the only Republican senator you can trust right now is Mitt Romney.  And since he voted to impeach tRump, I only have a 49% level of trust he'll still do the right thing.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > functionoverfashion 09/18/2020 at 22:26

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This has me genuinely scared

RallyWrench > DipodomysDeserti 09/18/2020 at 22:27

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This is perfect, and with a wide open desert to roam . Feeling the need to accelerate the purchase of a family truck... Also w hat is a 911 but a fast Baja bug? Probably gonna need the agility to run roadblocks on the backroads.   The hardbody should make a nice little technical too.

gettingoldercarguy > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 22:33

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If you’re serious, I can show you the intro steps along with more substantial things to get you qualified for home ownership

boredalways > gettingoldercarguy 09/18/2020 at 22:44

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I haven’t had a job since the end of January. Would loose my ass selling my house. And with my parents sadly in their twilight, I don’t think I could be that far away right now.

It maybe best to share that information with other Oppos for now.

gettingoldercarguy > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 22:45

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I’ll try to work on that.  Best of luck.

boredalways > gettingoldercarguy 09/18/2020 at 22:47

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Thanks. Best of luck to you and the missus becoming Kiwis!

bison78 > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 09/18/2020 at 22:50

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Trump may wait until after the election before nominating someone. This would protect Collins and others while still allowing a regressive “conservative” to be appointed.

Taylor Martin > gettingoldercarguy 09/18/2020 at 23:05

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Not that a lot of us have the means of leaving the country, but it would be interesting to read about at the very least... Just in case it ever comes to that, which I hope it doesn’t...

Anywhere that ends in “land” is where I’d go. Ireland, England, New Zealand, Finland, Iceland, Greenland... land please.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > bison78 09/18/2020 at 23:13

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I don’t believe Trump has any idea how any of that works

Chariotoflove > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 23:50

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Rest in p eace, Justice Ginsburg. You served your country conscientiously and well like few others of your generation.

Thi s next part I expect to be excoriated for, but screw it, I get to express my opinion too, and I’m not going to be intimidated by potential flames. I am glad that this president will have the opportunity to appoint one more conservative justice to the Court. I was pretty happy with the last one, and if the next one is similarly well-chosen, I have hope that a relatively ineffective and controversial presidency may nevertheless leave something of a positive legacy to the next couple of decades.

Nick Has an Exocet > DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever 09/18/2020 at 23:54

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I wouldn’t be surprised. 

Grindintosecond > boredalways 09/18/2020 at 23:55

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There are quite a few who are desparately trying to hold on to their senate seat and have to think mightily hard about what to do here. They have a Trump base, which is only 20-25% but it’s still 25%, and to get the rest to win, depends on their decision here. Because waiting on this might generate a huge vote in their favor from the middle ground, who knows, but I would expect your phone and everyone elses to blow up with polling vey soon.

Nick Has an Exocet > For Sweden 09/18/2020 at 23:55

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I think you have to block yourself from the internet in order accomplish America-muting. 

Stef Schrader > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 09/19/2020 at 00:10

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People still have...hope?

I fully expect the idiots in power to be as hypocritical and ignorant as possible. I’d like to be pleasantly surprised sometime, but frankly, I’ve given up.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Stef Schrader 09/19/2020 at 00:18

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Yeah, I do hope Drumpf dies in the toilet every night. I guess the US needs to split like India and Pakistan. I will never agree with someone who supports all of this. The future can’t be based on this nonsense, if we can’t progress with intelligent people we deserve to be wiped out by an asteroid. 

50ford500 > Chariotoflove 09/19/2020 at 00:22

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Well said indeed. I find it somewhat comical the outrage of the more liberal minded among our numbers. Granted I’d probably feel the exact same were the shoe on the other foot mind you Albeit with a sizeably lower degree of what appears to be abject panic . I just find it humorous we’re all really not that different other than points of view 

boredalways > Chariotoflove 09/19/2020 at 00:29

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If you wanted to be flamed, why reply to me?! You’re confusing.

Gor such = baby Scalia.

Roberts only true fuck up was Citizens United.

The rest of the conservative justices CFT. More importantly, a conservative leaning judge isn’t an issue. It’s a conservative judge willingly advancing someone else’s biased (and sometimes bigoted and/or racist) agendas for the political and/or financial benefits of one or more individuals at the detriment of the mostly ignorant masses. Payment to the judge is power and advancement.

WilliamsSW > Chariotoflove 09/19/2020 at 00:29

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:) :)

Chariotoflove > boredalways 09/19/2020 at 00:58

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I just replied to this thread, and expected flames in general because of the general bent of this forum and the direction of the comments.

I’ve found that the Justices, regardless of leaning, are conscientious jurists who try to follow the law and precedent, not the will of them that “hired” them. I’m not worried about that either way.

Chariotoflove > 50ford500 09/19/2020 at 01:02

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I tend to take the longer view that our system is stable.  No need to panic because of this or that single election. We're not a banana republic here.

duurtlang > Chariotoflove 09/19/2020 at 01:56

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The whole idea of 87 year old judges and *politicized* judge appointments (by 1  party!) that can shape the future of a country for decades to come kind of do make you a banana republic. This is a system that should have been left behind in the 19th century.

Beefchips > boredalways 09/19/2020 at 02:18

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I was (shamefully) unaware of her massive contributions to civil rights  until I read her obituary this afternoon. What a wonderful legacy she left us with. Her fight is over, I hope she has peace .

Tristan > WilliamsSW 09/19/2020 at 03:03

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I mean, they’re being pretty convincing with Joe Biden... I mean, it’s almost like he’s actually still alive!

boredalways > Chariotoflove 09/19/2020 at 12:59

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l ucky you

Chariotoflove > duurtlang 09/19/2020 at 17:36

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The term banana republic refers to a politically unstable government established by the current ruling class and able to be toppled as soon as that class changes. That was clearly the sense in which I used it, and which you seemed to miss. The United States is clearly a stable government guided by the rule of law and built to whether any political storm, as evidenced by its survival through scores of political upheavals and changes of ruling “classes” throughout its history.

You seemed to have also missed that our system of checks and balances created a judicial system whereby the supreme arbiters of law, though per force nominated and confirmed  by politicians, are insulated from political pressures. You also seem to have missed the fact that one party alone cannot install its favorite onto the high court. So, instead of being a mechanism for a political party to exert its influence beyond its elected term, the court becomes a bulwark of consistency that applies law and precedent according to long standing legal philosophy and not political ambition.

duurtlang > Chariotoflove 09/19/2020 at 18:21

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If all of that had been true, the death of this judge had only been about her life. Her achievements. Although this has been a topic, the main subject is that one of the two parties gets to appoint the judge. A judge who will have a lasting effect on the political bias of the court.

None of this should be possible in a proper democracy. The mere fact that politicians can appoint a judge is in itself as sign of fundamental problem of the system. In more modern democracies this cannot and does not happen.

Back in the 19th century the US was ahead of the curve. Yet, when others learned, adapted and improved, the US took its ancient constitution as gospel and got stuck in the past. We are witnessing the results as we speak. They are not pretty.

Chariotoflove > boredalways 09/19/2020 at 19:18

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You too, whether you realize it or not.

Chariotoflove > duurtlang 09/19/2020 at 20:32

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Well, your misconceptions, along with those who inaccurately believe they can effectively lobby the Supreme Court, notwithstanding, that is exactly what history has shown to be true. A US Sup reme Court nomination and confirmation  centers on qualifications and underlying judicial philosophy, which is the only real way a nominating president can hope to indirectly influence court policy, as it should be.

With each passing decade, I become more and more convinced of the brilliance and foresight of those who framed our governmental system into   one of accountability and adaptability while holding onto consistency and stability. If others think they can “improve” theirs by tying it more to the vagaries of social currents and prevailing political breezes, then I’ m happy to let them. Thankfully, it won’t affect the way we run ours .