"Just Jeepin'" (macintux)
09/16/2020 at 10:03 • Filed to: None
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"Just Jeepin'" (macintux)
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Not against Uber, of course, for failing to implement basic precautions.
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facw
> Just Jeepin'
09/16/2020 at 10:13 |
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I mean, I do think the driver is more at fault than uber. Making sure the car didn’t crash into things was literally her only job. And instead it seems a lot like she was watching something funny on her phone.
I also think that if she had been a regular commuter instead of the safety driver in a self-driving car, there’s zero chance she’d be charged with anything for hitting a homeless person crossing a dark street mid-block (I don’t think that’s a good thing though).
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> Just Jeepin'
09/16/2020 at 10:13 |
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no winners in this one.
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Just Jeepin'
> facw
09/16/2020 at 10:34 |
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Clearly she’s at fault, but as I understand it Waymo knew their drivers would find it hard to concentrate for long stretches of time with nothing to do , so they made sure there were always two people in the car.
Or they could have implemented systems to detect that the driver wasn’t paying attention.
That, and the underlying “we put buggy, alpha-quality software on the road and disabled the software that would have saved her”. (I don’t necessarily blame them for turning off the car’s built-in auto-braking, since clearly the two systems would be fighting over control, but I’m not convinced there wasn’t a way to leave it enabled as an emergency measure if they’d taken safety seriously .)
nermal
> Just Jeepin'
09/16/2020 at 14:02 |
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I was always told that self driving cars would make the wrong decision between mowing down somebody’s grandma, somebody else’s kid, and a bushel of cute and innocent puppies and kittens. The programming hierarchy of what the car should be programmed to murder in place of something else was the single biggest fundamental problem needing solved.
This incident was inevitable, if not this one it would have happened somewhere else eventually . Curious to see how it plays out from a legal perspective though. I suspect that Uber will choose the most evil route and blame the driver for everything.
Urambo Tauro
> Just Jeepin'
09/16/2020 at 19:12 |
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Everything about this case pisses me off. The jaywalking pedestrian who made ZERO effort to yield to approaching traffic (or at least hurry across the road) .. . The autonomous system that failed to react to a fairly obvious obstacle... The backup safety driver who had ONE JOB...
Everybody just... let it happen. What the fuc k. I can’t even
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Just Jeepin'
> Urambo Tauro
09/16/2020 at 19:14 |
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As I recall, the pedestrian was homeless and not entirely mentally all there. I don’t hold it against her; this whole situation was primed to blow up.
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Urambo Tauro
> Just Jeepin'
09/16/2020 at 19:47 |
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H ad to look it up to refresh my memory... It seems that she had “tested positive for methamphetamine and marijuana in a toxicology test carried out after the collision”, but they were unable to determine if it was enough to consider her as having been under the influence at the time.