Down on the wrecker across the fence from the steel mill.

"Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer" (dash-doorhandle-and-bondo) 08/05/2020 at 20:57 • Filed to: None

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Just a Morris Minor hanging with a 67 Grand Parisienne amongst the Cobalts and Mazda 3s.

and surprisingly, a 64 Plymouth, Fury I think, nothing of use to me here.

bison78 > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 08/05/2020 at 21:58

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If that Morris Minor were in the UK, someone would buy it and restore it.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 08/05/2020 at 22:37

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That poor Morris doesn't have much of a chance given parts availability and lack of interest in North America. Too bad, since it looks salvageable. 

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > bison78 08/05/2020 at 22:56

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unfortunately, it is sitting right across the fence from the stack of pipe it will become part of later on this year.  was quite complete too. 

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/05/2020 at 23:06

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It would have come from a farmyard being cleaned out. In Sask people traditionally would just park a car when they got a new one and it would just sit for decades till the farm was sold. Lots of little Austins, Standard Vanguards, Ford Consuls and other B ritish odds and ends kicking around. Thames, Commer, and Bedford vans too.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/05/2020 at 23:10

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They just pulled one out of a storage locker on Barn Find Hunter in England.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 08/05/2020 at 23:19

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In England, where people know what they are and like them enough to pay for a costly restoration.

Svend > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/05/2020 at 23:29

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There are a few garages that fully restore these cars or sell new built parts for very little money here in the U.K.

Svend > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 08/05/2020 at 23:35

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I like the Morris Minor and Morris Traveller, but will always be irked that U.S. lighting regulations did away with the original Morris Minor Lowlight, where the headlights were mounted much lower and had a great look.

It looks a cleaner and more handsome design. 

ranwhenparked > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/05/2020 at 23:52

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Parts availability is fine, you just have to order from overseas and wait a bit for shipping, but, not like restoring a Morris Minor is a time sensitive operation. Charles Ware Morris Minor Centre stocks everything you need to almost build a complete new Minor from scratch, in fact, they proposed doing that at one point, but never raised the funding.   

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 08/05/2020 at 23:56

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That is fascinating. We were much less friendly with the Brits so we supplied our own cheap cars and commercial vehicles.

And people don't really park their broken cars because there isn't enough land or a junkyard is always ready to give you a few bucks for it. 

Jim Spanfeller > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/06/2020 at 00:09

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From what I hear, they’re great classic cars for beginners provided that you make sure this one chassis brace isn’t rusted. Apparently it’s important and hard to fix if it’s rotted... But other than that they’re great little cars.

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/06/2020 at 00:11

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You’re very unlikel y to see one moving under its own power, but most farms will have a couple of cool cars or trucks just sitting around. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Svend 08/06/2020 at 00:16

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Makes sense, since so many were sold, many were kept, and an aftermarket, parts supply, expertise, nostalgia, and all the right ingredients were available to keep them on the road. 

Svend > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/06/2020 at 00:32

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The U.K. is also home to one of the largest Citroen 2CV restorers, with original and new built parts.

There is a wealth of restorers who trudge the world looking for original parts or make new parts for these cars.

There was an episode of CAR S.O.S. where a garage and dismantler only sold SAAB parts for and from virtually every single vehicle. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Svend 08/06/2020 at 00:43

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You have got to have the crazy specialist shops that obsess over one model or maybe a whole brand while they’re at it. I frequently pass a place that knows more about the Porsche 914 than Porsche themselves probably. They have about 20 of the things lying around, plus a bunch of other Porsches.

I hope that the premier 2CV parts supplier may come within my vein someday. That is on my list of cars I want to own at some point. I’ve only ever seen two but I am quite infatuated with them.

There is a great Swedish spe cialty shop nearby but I only ever see old Volvo s there. Not many pre GM era SAABs around. 

Svend > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/06/2020 at 01:10

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The 2CV specialists cover all 2CVs from five doors, pickups, vans, etc...

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Svend 08/06/2020 at 12:04

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I don’t think I would call the canvas side van a pickup. It’s a truck, but in American, a pickup has solid bed sides blended  with the bodywork of the cab. So an F150 is a pickup but something with a tray style bed would just be a truck for some reason. Without the canvas, that might be a pickup, but with I know no one would ever call that a pickup. 

Svend > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/06/2020 at 12:25

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Pickup often is used to describe something with a bed in the rear, most often open but tops or canvas tilts can be added.

Ford Ranger T6, pickup, with hardtop.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Svend 08/06/2020 at 12:35

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That is still a pickup. This is not a pickup but rather just a regular truck. I think pickup implies a sort of farm and town capability, which these are used for in some markets, but just not in the US.

You drive your F100 to town

And you might have a tray back design like this around the theoretical farm.

Though this distinction is based on outdated perceptions kept for nostalgia’s sake.

Svend > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/06/2020 at 13:22

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Urgh.

Low rigid side with drop down tailgate, yes it has a canvas tilt. That makes it a pickup with a canvas tilt.

no hinges on lower edges of sides, even if they are incredibly small, why put a wheel arch on? It’d just hit the wheel hub cap each time you open it.

If Citroen or the guy who made it wants to call it a pickup, calls it a pickup, it's a pickup. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Svend 08/06/2020 at 13:30

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It should be a pickup, but no one I know would ever call it that. I didn’t realize it had rigid sides so so it really should be one, except in the US no one would agree with me.

I still love the 2CV and I wasn’t even aware of that body style.

I have had people argue that a unibody can't even be called a truck for some reason, which shows a misunderstanding of what the word means. 

Svend > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/06/2020 at 13:46

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Skoda called the Mk3 Superb liftback a limousine, we call it a saloon, some say hatchback.

T hey called t he Mk2 Superb saloon/liftback a twindoor (limousine officially) We call it a saloon.

Some say a coupe should only be a two door, some say pillarless doors hence VW Passat CC which has four doors and separate tailgate.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Svend 08/06/2020 at 14:12

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Lots of coupes have pillared doors, but the classic definition of a couple is a two door sedan with a sloping rear roofline. Therefore, the “coupes” are really fastbacks.

The Skoda is a lift back sedan, which is uncommon but we ll defined. It is a back with a batch, but not a hatchback in the classic definition.

The words “ pickup truck” are so tied to national identity for some reason their use is very rigidly defined. Almost anything can be a truck but pickups have their own definition. 

Svend > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 08/06/2020 at 15:07

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Again, if they want to call it whatever, they can.

‘Rigidly defined' often isn't as rigid as people think. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Svend 08/06/2020 at 15:19

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Yes, they can call it whatever they want but they can’t change what people call them. I don’t dislike the idea of calling a 2CV a pickup truck, but I would constantly be corrected every time I said the words.