Oppo PSA: Don’t buy a Vizio TV.

"gmctavish needs more space" (gmctavish) 07/21/2020 at 14:12 • Filed to: oppo psa

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I bought this M43-C1 in 2015 or 2016, my dad bought one at the same time. His died two years ago. Just wouldn’t power on at all. It always had freezing issues and mine didn’t, so I assumed I was in the clear. Nope. Yesterday it started flashing constantly, whatever was on the screen. Doesn’t matter what input, it’s just always flashing. I called Vizio, and it’s a known issue. I’ve looked around online and if you look up Vizio flickering screen, it’s a very common problem. They tell you to power cycle it, and factory reset it. If that doesn’t work, and if it’s under warranty, they send you a refurb. Mine is out of warranty, so I’m SOL. 4 or 5 years is an unacceptably short life for a freaking TV. I was not planning on buying a TV for years.  I don’t know what I’m replacing this with, but it sure as shit won’t be a Vizio.

E90M3 > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:17

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On the other hand, a friend gave me a Vizio back in 2013 that he had for 4 years, so circa 2009. It’s in my bedroom now and works just fine. 

MonkeePuzzle > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:17

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how dare a base model disposable product not outlive that uber old audio equipment in front of it!?

holytaco904 > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:18

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Nice Sansui. Is that a 9090db? I love mine .

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:19

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Til that Vizio is an American company. Shame they didn’t measure up. It would be nice to support a North American electronics brand, though I’m sure it’s all manufactured offshore so f em anyway, but still it  would have been nice.

ttyymmnn > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:19

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I first read that as your dad died two years ago. We bought a Vizio years ago and have had no problems with it. 

gmctavish needs more space > E90M3 07/21/2020 at 14:19

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I think the late 2000s was the last time TVs were made well. I got a little Sony flatscreen from my grandpa, it was from 2007 or 8, and gave it to my sister after I got this one. She’s still using it.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:20

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I bought a 32" vizio 1080 LCD tv in 2007 ish...

I gave it to a co-worker 3 years ago and it is still working fine.

gmctavish needs more space > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 07/21/2020 at 14:20

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Yeah only the brand is American. Th e screen in this one is Sony or Samsung, and everything else is misc garbage, hence it already dying.

Grindintosecond > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:20

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I have a 40" Vizio from 2016 as a replacement for a stolen 43" Samsung (Circa 2008 with a self-done recently replaced power supply) . That Vizio had a dark shading issue on top of the scren but power cycling fixed it and it honestly hasnt happend in several years. It was moved to a bedroom and replaced with a TCL 6-series 55". I’m extremely happy with my TCL-6 . B uilt in Roku. works great. But, if you have the funds, grab the Sony 950H. Had I to do it again, I probably would have gone for the Sony at twice the price , but I would have had to buy a separate 4k Roku, as chromecast can eat a pair of rotten bull nuts.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 07/21/2020 at 14:22

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I don’t know anything about Vizio but TCL, another “american” electronics company does as you describe and repackages offshore made sets.  

gmctavish needs more space > holytaco904 07/21/2020 at 14:22

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Thanks, and yes it is, I love it. It was my partners grandparents stereo for 40 years, and then they gave it to us. I took it to a tech to get thoroughly cleaned, and he figures it’s good for another 40. The tt beside it is also a Sansui from 1976, an SR-929

sony1492 > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:24

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Back when flat-screens were new around 08 my dad bought a top of the line 42" for -ALOT- of money, it still works with a couple foibles

gmctavish needs more space > MonkeePuzzle 07/21/2020 at 14:24

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The disposability is what I’m mad about, yes, but I wouldn’t expect it to last 40 years. I thought 10 or 12 years wouldn’t be unreasonable to expect from an ~ $800 product

gmctavish needs more space > ttyymmnn 07/21/2020 at 14:25

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Maybe it’s just this model that’s garbage, or me and my dad bought two bad ones. Not rolling the dice again either way

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:25

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*takes notes*

got our samsung when we got this house soo..thats ummm...almost 8 years now

no issues yet....well.... coz its a smart tv...its keep updating itself out of functionality....thats kind of an issue.... but it still works fine as a tv....its just not so smart no mo....and ill be damned if im buying a new tv just coz this one decided i cant cast straight from the pc to it no mo and interupt the missuses whatever shes viewing with random shit i found on youtube

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:26

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I have only ever bought 1 TV in. August 2013 and it's still going strong. Samsung

MonkeePuzzle > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:26

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I think though that Vizio have always sold themselves as being the bottom rung of the disposable tech ladder.

holytaco904 > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:26

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Mine was also a gift from family and it too needed a bit of love but it works great and sounds amazing now . Will probably outlast the TCL 6-series behind it. Turntable is a Technics SL-1300. Basically a fully automatic version of the venerable 1200.

Tripper > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:28

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Had 2 70 inch and one 80 inch vizios die at work. The older ones seem to run forever. 

gmctavish needs more space > Grindintosecond 07/21/2020 at 14:28

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I’ll quite possibly be ponying up for a real brand this time, but damn that Sony really isn’t cheap....and if I get something bigger than 43" I have to move my wall mount...ugh

gmctavish needs more space > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/21/2020 at 14:29

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I think after the earl 2010s they started engineering TVs to fail. 2000s ones seem to last forever, pretty much any of them

gmctavish needs more space > MonkeePuzzle 07/21/2020 at 14:30

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Ah, I did not know that. yay

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Snuze: Needs another Swede 07/21/2020 at 14:30

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I thought TCL is Chinese? I know people in China who have been happy with their TCL home electronics . Not the nicest, that’s for sure.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:30

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I have had good luck with izio sound bars. I’m no audiophile so good value for what it is.

For TVs I stick to LG. Never let me down.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:31

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I’ve had my Vizio 47" for 11+ years (games only, no TV service) and no problems. YMMV, I guess.

I will probably replace it when I get a PS5, so that I can actually utilise 4K resolution .

The Ghost of Oppo > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:32

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My family has had good luck with Samsung TVs(knock on wood). We’ve had ours for almost 6 years now and the only issue is a single dead pixel, and m y parents have one that is at least a year or two older than mine and still going strong.

gmctavish needs more space > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 07/21/2020 at 14:32

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My monitor is an LG from 2011, and it hasn’t even fallen out of calibration, it’s amazing

The Snowman > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:33

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Well you probably paid less than half of what a quality TV would have cost. With lowering costs you should now be able to take the other half of what you would have spent and buy a set that is superior to anything from 2015. After this due to inflation you will still have effectively spent less money than if you had bought quality back then but now you have a better TV.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:33

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The tv I had a as a teenager was from the mid eighties, worked fine I thin it was a 26” full cabinet wood panel style. It was replaced by a 32 JVC that’s probably 20 years old now. We have a 3-4 year old flat screen in the living room, but that old JVC is still kicking in our bedroom. Old school electrics just last longer. Idk is quality is the problem or complexity of the newer technology. 

Also I’ve never paid money for a TV. The first one was sitting on a curb and I picked it up, the second was given to me when a co-worker was moving and didn’t want to take the 40-50lb  tv, and the newest one was a 5 year anniversary present from my father in law.

gmctavish needs more space > The Snowman 07/21/2020 at 14:34

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....I like this perspective a lot

HammerheadFistpunch > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:37

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It’ s really hard to find a tv that is:

quality

affordable

Not subsidised by data mining

gmctavish needs more space > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/21/2020 at 14:38

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These two Vizios are the only TVs we’ve had that have died now that I think about it. Before this I had a little Sony flatscreen from 2000 something, and my sister still has it. My family had a Sony tube TV for most of my life growing up and we gave it to someone when we were given a huge flatscreen Toshiba tube TV. That one still worked fine, my dad just didn’t want to move it when he moved, so he got that Vizio 43". Older electrics definitely lasted longer, I think it’s partly complexity of newer stuff, but mostly being built to fail so they can sell more new ones.

gmctavish needs more space > HammerheadFistpunch 07/21/2020 at 14:39

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Mmm I’m excited to try and find that, if it exists at all

HammerheadFistpunch > MonkeePuzzle 07/21/2020 at 14:40

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oh there are plenty of rungs below vizio

HammerheadFistpunch > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:41

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My samsung has been okay.  They want waaaaay too much access but the workaround to that is to just use a google cast or something like it.  Granted now my data is just going to google, but the truth is...they already have it.

Just Jeepin' > HammerheadFistpunch 07/21/2020 at 14:45

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As I understand it, effectively the only way to buy a “dumb” TV anymore is to look at panels they offer for business purposes, which run ~2x as much.

But, I haven’t owned a TV in 20 years, so that’s hearsay.

Brickman > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:47

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wow, that is a short lifespan. I had a 32" Toshiba 720p LCD from 2008 and finally died last year. LG is really good, doesn’ t spam you with Ads, like my samsung :|

Nibby > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:47

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Snuze: Needs another Swede > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 07/21/2020 at 14:47

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You might be right, I think I might be confusing them with another brand, but now I can’t remember who.  But as it stands, I don’t know if anyone actually manufactures displays in the US.  I think any “made in the USA” TV is really “assembled in the USA” using foreign sourced parts.  

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:48

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That’s odd, I’ve only ever had  Vizios and I’ve never had issues.

nerd_racing > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:49

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I like L.G. consumer products.  I’ve had an LED projector of theirs for over 6 years and I haven’t had a single issue.  I use it everyday.  Same with a bluray player of theirs too.  

ranwhenparked > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:50

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Ive always said Zenith or nothing. The handbuilt quality thing might be overblown, but they do a good job on QC.

nerd_racing > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 07/21/2020 at 14:52

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LG is the bomb.  I have an LG led projector and it has been my main TV for over 6 years.  I love it.  

Saracen > HammerheadFistpunch 07/21/2020 at 14:53

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I have two Samsung TV’s. For the most part, they’re good..but I’d never use the built in app system  ever again. Too slow, too buggy. Life is much better just using a Fire Stick/Apple TV/Chromecast.  I think in the future we’ll be going with Sony’s.

Monkey B > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 14:56

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Samsung is the next to avoid. I used to install TV’s , Samsung and Vizio were the ones that had the most issues. In my opinion Sony if you feel spendy , if not then look at TCL or Hisense. TCL and Hisense weren’t around when I was installing but I have a TCL and friends have a Hisense that are doing well. In a pinch I grabbed an open box 55" TCL series 5 from Best Buy for $225 . Quality picture, nice hardware. I feel they slid in where Panasonic used to be...especially if they prove to be reliable. Panasonic was my go to brand, never an issue with a single one out of many many owned and installed. I’d choose LG over Samsung if those were the only 2 choices.

HammerheadFistpunch > Saracen 07/21/2020 at 14:56

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I absolutely can’t STAND Sony’s take on  UIs. Good panels though

gokstate > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 15:00

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4 or 5 years is an unacceptably short life for a freaking TV.

From this corner , I’m guessing 4-5 decades is what you’re looking for in your tech? ;)

notsomethingstructural > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 15:04

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I’m expecting 5 years from a Vizio or cheaper, 8 years from a lower -end Sony/Samsung, and 10-15 for mid to high-end name brand stuff.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > HammerheadFistpunch 07/21/2020 at 15:05

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From my experience the very bottom rung is Westinghouse. When I worked for Target we used to bring them in for the black friday and Christmas rush. We would see a 40% return rate by late January.

Saracen > HammerheadFistpunch 07/21/2020 at 15:10

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Yeah, I just care about panel quality at this point.

facw > HammerheadFistpunch 07/21/2020 at 15:10

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The third one is really easy. Just buy a smart TV and don’t connect it to the internet.

And of course TVs have never been more affordable.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > ranwhenparked 07/21/2020 at 15:10

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Does Zenith even exist anymore? I thought they died in the early 2000s.

gmctavish needs more space > Nibby 07/21/2020 at 15:13

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Ugh. My dad replaced his with a bigger Vizio, and the backlight is starting to get inconsistent

mazda616 > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 15:13

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I’ve heard bad things about Vizios.

We have a Sharp. I love it. Got it in winter 2015 when we moved into our house. It’s not a smart TV, which I was fine with.

gmctavish needs more space > nerd_racing 07/21/2020 at 15:14

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I have an LG monitor from 2011 and I love it

gmctavish needs more space > ranwhenparked 07/21/2020 at 15:15

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I didn’t even know Zenith was still around

gmctavish needs more space > Monkey B 07/21/2020 at 15:16

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Good to know, I’m leaning towards a Sony because there have been two or three Sony TVs in my family and they always worked fine. LG is my next choice

gmctavish needs more space > gokstate 07/21/2020 at 15:17

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I mean it’s not what I expect from new tech, but it’s what I think should still be the case

gmctavish needs more space > notsomethingstructural 07/21/2020 at 15:18

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That’s roughly what I’ll be adjusting my expectations to

Chinny Raccoon > sony1492 07/21/2020 at 15:19

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U ntil recently I had one of the first HD LCD TVs Sony sold. it was a 32" model and in 2004 retailed for about $6000 (I bought it used in about 2010 for a tiny fraction of that). I replaced it a couple of years ago with another nice Sony from 2010 that’s still going strong. Not interested in all this smart rubbish and 1080p is fine for a 37 inch screen.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 15:20

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I know nowadays that everything is made cheaply, but I will still only buy ‘ brand-name’ TVs like Sony, Samsung, LG, etc. We currently have an older Sony Bravia 28" and a newer LG 32" and both are still going strong...

DasWauto > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 15:24

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I just picked up a 50" Samsung 4K hdr 120hz for $550 (Canuckbucks). It’s neat, though the default data collection is scummy AF. I disabled sending data back to Samsung but I’ll probably end up taking it off the wifi and grabbing a C hromecast instead, even though that will defeat the Airplay compatibility which was a selling point for me.

sn4cktimes > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 15:25

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Looking at the Zenith site it looks like they’ve been bought out by LG and are now a research and tech licensing division .

nerd_racing > HammerheadFistpunch 07/21/2020 at 15:26

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TCL 

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 07/21/2020 at 15:36

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Honestly, once the “smart” computer in them isn’t keeping up, just connect a device to an input and ignore that the “smart” functionality exists . The only reason to replace the screen is that the screen itself isn’t working right, you really want a bigger one, or some major technology change that makes the available inputs obsolete . I figure any decent quality 4K display sold today should last until 4K is outdated , but it’ll be attached to some external device for streaming long before that due to the “smart” functionality being archaic by that point .

Aside from being able to charge more for them and ad revenue, I don’t know why they integrate these features...

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/21/2020 at 15:39

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We have a 2015 Samsung that has no problems that are the fault of the manufacturer, though the panel was slightly damaged when we mounted it back in 2018. Between that and always being too small for the room, we’re replacing it with a newer bigger one...

Monkey B > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 15:41

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The Sony I bought in 2010 is still working. I think it was in the $1500 range, so mid tier for a 60" in those times. My current TCL makes it look silly in the PQ department and the Sony was professionally calibrated. I have only eyeballed the calibration on the TCL as it’s not hooked up to a source.

I’ll be looking at 6 and 8 series TCL’s when I’m shopping for the next.

LG I have very limited experience with so I don’t have much opinion on them. I did set one up for a friend and found the UI pretty straight forward.

Danny Korecki > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 15:41

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I have had a Vizio 32 inch since 2010.

Sjj22 > Monkey B 07/21/2020 at 15:54

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My high end $ 3k 75 in. LG went out at 15 months. My Vizio flickered at 18 months. Disconnected the cord. Forgot about for a week, reconnected the cord. It started working. = I hate LG.

Nibby > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 15:55

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n e v e r a g a i n

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 07/21/2020 at 15:56

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im reasonably sure they integrate them coz a good few people will upgrade to keep whatever function they just lost

its kinda like the people that need the new phone coz it has a higher number or is slimmer now

i dont get it....but more power to em i guess

i wasnt so different back when i had money to burn and not much in the way of responsibilities....just that back then... there wasnt much to get but moar music!

(weeeeellll.... and drugs and booze and spensive bike parts....nothing smart tho)

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 07/21/2020 at 15:57

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We recently moved to a bigger place and now need a second as there is a place in our living room specifically for one that is currently empty (the white framed alcove)

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I just...can’t be bothered to spend the money right now.

TheRealBicycleBuck > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 16:02

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All new TVs are going to have some kind of issue whether it’s hardware or software. They just aren’t going to support it after the warranty period. If a lack of a software update makes the “smart” TV go dumb, you can still buy an external box like a roku or apple TV and use the TV as a monitor. If the hardware craps out, you’re out of luck.

I still have a TV that I bought back in 1990. It still works, although the resolution is terrible compared to TVs today. Now that the over-the-air broadcasts are digital, I have to buy a converter if I still want to use it that way.

horizonsofkhaos > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 16:09

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If you can narrow down the issue to a specific circuit board on the TV a lot of the time they’re super easy to replace. Most modern tv’s have a main board, a logic board and then some stuff for the power supply. There’s sites online with some of the parts or even ebay. Replacing the boards is usually just zipping out the screws from the back cover, undoing a couple ribbon cables and taking out a couple more screws from the board. I’ve had to replace the main board on an older Panasonic plasma a couple times. $100 or so for the board and maybe 30 minutes to install.

If it’s a panel issue then unfortunately you’re kinda stuck. If that’s the case you could strip the boards out and flip them on ebay and make a couple bucks to put towards a newer TV.

liam > Monkey B 07/21/2020 at 16:22

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We have some LG tvs, and they have been fine.  Oldest isn’t more than 4 years old yet though.

Grindintosecond > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 16:52

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eh, just move it up. the holes are already there....just draw lines up! solved!

RG5756 > Nibby 07/21/2020 at 17:07

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Stay AWAY FROM VIZIO TVS . I bought a 70' within 2 yrs BLACK SPOTS started appearing

VIzzo said to reboot and factory reset .Didn’t do shit. Then dude said to hold power button and volume button at the same time .or some B.S. like that DIDN’T DO CRAP EXCEPT WASTE MY TIME .

Vizio said GOOD LUCK and hung up the phone

NEVER NEVER AGAIN . 

Nutsy > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 17:08

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I’ve got 4 Visio’s. The one in the living room which is a Best Buy open box I bought in 2009 stays on all the time! No problems at all! Still looks great! The others are fine too.

Visio is based in the USA and has great customer service. I lost one of my remotes and I called them and presto one was in the mail.

I’m over Sony and Samsung.

hike > Monkey B 07/21/2020 at 17:21

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I agree with this. I've seen more people have issues with Samsung than any other brand. I've had a mid range Sony since 2016 with no issues at all. I only recommend Sony for a nicer TV and LG to save a couple bucks. 

Manny05x > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 17:24

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I’ve had mines for about 5 years now great tv so far.

Guy Man > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 17:28

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There are more disposable than others model lines within each companies portfolio. The super affordable Vizio’s have more problems than t he $ 1300+ models in my experience . I have a quantum Vizio in my living room from early 2018 still going strong, but who knows.

As far as other   brands , I had a Sony RPTV that became a intermittent nightmare to own and deal with CS , and eventually I gave it away for free.

My first OLED from LG had to have it’s main board replaced twice within 4 months after purchase (warrantied..but still). No brand is a guarantee.

SmugAardvark > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 17:31

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Hmm, hasn’t been my experience. I bought a Vizio 42" TV back in 2011. It’s been through three moves, and has never given me any issues.

Bummer about your TV though. I’d offer advice, but I haven’t the faintest idea how to work on flatscreen televisions.

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > ranwhenparked 07/21/2020 at 17:31

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The only thing I know about Zenith is from a Wu tang song

ranwhenparked > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 07/21/2020 at 17:34

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Woops, my bad, I’m out of the loop on TVs. Last time I went shopping for one, like 7 years ago, I wound up with a Westinghouse because it was the only name they had that I recognized. Still works fine, probably because I don’t put many hours on it.

ranwhenparked > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 17:35

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Apparently they’re not, I must have had a memory lapse. They were built really well, though

Future next gen S2000 owner > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 17:42

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5-6 years seems to be the new expected life span for smart TV’s. The updates bog them down eventually.

TV’s are so damn  cheap now relative to 25 years ago, it’s kinda hard to complain.

MrSnrub > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 18:08

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That’s what you get for not buying a Sorny or Magnetbox

Frankenstein mechanic > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 18:09

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I’ve owned Vizio D series, M series, and P series TV’s. I prefer backlit, for better black isolation over edgelit. The P series has the best picture for the price. I’ve seen the best, the reference series, which sets the standard for picture quality. Vizio has the best in bright ness, also. I’ve only had one TV fail, under warranty, back in 2005. It was the motherboard, which was a known issue, and would have cost $300 to fix. Now, you can buy the parts and fix them yourself via YouTube. Still happy with smartcast 55" after 4 years.

Thatweirdautistichifiguy > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 18:14

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I have me a Vizio M507G which I (reluctantly) bought for myself for Christmas. No issues so far, but based on the numerous amount of people complaining about vizios not lasting as long, im not expecting it to last more than two years. But that’s okay, bc I plan on getting a full time job by then and ill hopefully have more than enough to afford an LG OLED. Still have me an early Vizio from '06 that works fine, but then again this was back when they was owned by Sony. Seems to me that Vizio went under at the start of the 2010s. Regardless, good luck to you, and hopefully my Vizio lasts me longer than the 3-5 year lifespan I seem to see on it

Lucy Youngblood > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 18:15

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Unplug the power cord from the back of the tv and then plug it back in that fixed mine 

Mrdlive > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 18:40

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Nobody makes anything good nowadays. Not Sony not Samsung, nobody. You run the risk with anything you purchase now. That’s why the warranty business is booming! Costco and BJ's offer their own extended warranty at no cost often times on these TVs. It's almost like they already know...

gmctavish needs more space > horizonsofkhaos 07/21/2020 at 18:44

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From what I gather on the internet, it’s a problem with capacitors on the “TCOM” board or something. My dad’s probably has a dead power supply board, so we’re gonna open them both up and see if parts from one can make the other work.

gmctavish needs more space > Future next gen S2000 owner 07/21/2020 at 18:46

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Terrifyingly wasteful though

gmctavish needs more space > Frankenstein mechanic 07/21/2020 at 18:48

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I’m glad to hear that you’ve had luck with them, but with two dead and a third with a failing backlight between me and my dad, I’m done with them

gmctavish needs more space > Lucy Youngblood 07/21/2020 at 18:51

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I tried that a few times, also clearing the RAM by holding the power button for 15 seconds after unplugging. No luck. Factory reset didn’t fix it either

gmctavish needs more space > Thatweirdautistichifiguy 07/21/2020 at 18:52

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Thanks! My dad still has his broken one, so we’re gonna open them both up and see if parts from one can fix the other. If not, I think I’m getting a Sony or an LG

gmctavish needs more space > Mrdlive 07/21/2020 at 18:54

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Collusion and corruption makes the world go round...

adam > Monkey B 07/21/2020 at 19:21

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TCL is the poster child for bad build quality.

holytaco904 > gokstate 07/21/2020 at 19:23

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When that 4-5 decade old tech has more power and sounds better than 90% of the rest of the stuff out there? Yes!

rockingthe2 > gmctavish needs more space 07/21/2020 at 19:31

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I’d stay away from LG as well, a nice penchant for catching fire.