Before you drop 60k on a “First dibs” Bronco.

"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo) 07/17/2020 at 14:55 • Filed to: None

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Remember what it’ll look like in >10 years.

It still blows my mine how many sub 10 year old fords have flaked off paint and rust. And in the weird est places. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 15:05

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My ST, impeccably cared for and in a non-salt region... has peeling paint in the door sills and under the hood.

Frustrating to say the least.

feather-throttle-not-hair > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 15:08

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Yeah a buddy of mine has a 2019 or 2020 mustang GT and he won’t shut up about how bad the paint is. Also has a weird piano black panel on the trunk right where you’d grab it to close the thing that gets scratched to holy hell.

nerd_racing > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 15:10

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nah, the tailgate on the new bronco is aluminum. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > feather-throttle-not-hair 07/17/2020 at 15:13

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Still love the paint colour though.

Tripper > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 15:17

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Man that is bad, I had a 96 explorer with 164k on the clock with almost no rust. It was on transmission #3 and was used to tow a boat for most of its life.

Also a colleague has a lock on a first edition is 60k really what they cost!? He wouldn’t say.

bob and john > nerd_racing 07/17/2020 at 15:19

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oh yea, because ford is know for doing THOSE so well

nerd_racing > bob and john 07/17/2020 at 15:22

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known* Y es, the aluminum F150 is a huge success.  Best selling pickup every year.  

bob and john > nerd_racing 07/17/2020 at 15:23

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and the paint on those is pretty bad too.

not to mention t he older SN197 mustangs and the issues THOSe had.

vondon302 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 15:24

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True but their competing against jeep.

nerd_racing > bob and john 07/17/2020 at 15:24

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Haven’t seen an alloy body with paint flake near me yet.  

superdave847 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 15:25

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The license plates tell the story.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > vondon302 07/17/2020 at 15:27

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Is Jeep that bad? I mean, EVERYONE has one it seems and my Dad loves his with no issues yet.

ranwhenparked > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 15:30

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I’ve never understood how Ford gets away with this . My personal history: 2008 Town Car- peeled off hood, 2013 Mustang - bubbled and rusted on hood and trunk lid, clear coat failed on front bumper, 2018 Escape - peeled off A-pillar. Looked at a 2014 Mustang last year and walked away because of paint bubbles on the hood, despite driving an hour and a half out to the dealer.

Bizarrely, the best quality paint on any Ford product I’ve owned or had assigned to me was a 1984 Town Car, which was 31 years old when I bought it - other than dings and scuffs from being used for decades, it was still perfectly smooth, shiny, and glossy and stayed that way for the 3 years I owned it.

My dad had an Expedition company car that also had paint issues on the hood and tailgate, though his current Explorer seems OK so far. 

Ash78, voting early and often > Tripper 07/17/2020 at 15:32

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Sounds about right...when the 4-door Wranglers first came out, the dealers knew they could fill up the lots with Rubicons and Saharas and sell them all. Pretty much the same deal with the Gladiator, too, but it seems to have calmed down a little.

ranwhenparked > nerd_racing 07/17/2020 at 15:35

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Sales success, yes, but that has nothing to do with paint quality - the Mustang has also been a strong seller, and has had major issues with its aluminum body panels for 15 years.

Aluminum F-150s have had the same paint adhesion and oxidation problems as all of Ford’s aluminum paneled vehicles, maybe not to the same extent as Mustangs and SUV tailgates, but much more than with competing pickups. Probably the biggest difference is that Ford is a bit more flexible with goodwill repairs out of warranty for F-150 owners than they are for their other models. Ordinarily, if this happens outside your comprehensive warranty period, you’re totally on the hook for it, as it doesn’t meet the requirements for coverage under the corrosion warranty (no perforation). 

facw > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 15:38

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Nah, the rear door is aluminum, so it won’t rust like that.

Instead it will bubble/ peel like this:

vondon302 > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 15:40

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They used to be, my 84 AMC was notoriously bad.

Here in salt land I see alot of rough jeeps but Ford is still trying to figure out how to paint aluminum.

My wife's ST has some paint peel but no rust yet.

BigBlock440 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 16:06

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I remember when 10 years used to put a car in solid beater category. 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 16:17

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Our company’s 2015 Explorer has rust in the same spot. And the drivers side elbow rest is split, etc...

bob and john > nerd_racing 07/17/2020 at 16:26

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they were BRUTAL in canada. For like 3 years, you couldnt see a mustang without the front edge just...gone

Nothing > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 16:28

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I live in the land of no rust*. When I was back in NY, it was crazy the amount of newish vehicles that were rusted to hell.

*vehicles that have made their way to CO from other areas are excluded from this statement.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:35

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Are these REAL imperfections or COFL imperfections?

A Boy and His Longtail > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:35

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Remember, they’ve also got to account for 4th hand sales to David Tracy’s Home For Rusted Out Jeeps

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 16:38

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Wait, you put it in park at a temporary stop?

Also, better change that oil. Yes, I’m being nosey. I was just trying to read the license plate state.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 07/17/2020 at 16:40

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Real, it falls off in my hand.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:41

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Too bad you don’t have fancy Toyota paint!

[Hand sticks to half-melted dash]

Ohhhhhh...

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 17:45

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VW had such terrible paint issues, that they’ll basically warranty anything regarding paint nowadays, so I’m good!

When I sold cars, I upsold a ton of people on the aftermarket rust coating (insert Fargo joke here) and the damn stuff worked. We’d get 10 year old Sierras that had totally blown out cab corners and bed sides. The trucks with the rust protection looked brand new. Th e shit works. At least in MN it does.

Also, any vehicle that has scratches down to the metal is going to look like trash within 2 years here.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Tripper 07/17/2020 at 18:30

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I think “first edition” ones are. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 18:31

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Ever seen door hinges on a 5 year old Wrangler? 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 07/17/2020 at 18:32

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Waiting in line at a bank, yes. Then I can zone out and post stuff on Oppo instead of focusing on keeping my foot on the brake.  It’s a company verhield so it gets like no maintenance.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > BigBlock440 07/17/2020 at 18:34

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That was when a new small  family car was 2 grand not 25.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 18:36

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If I had read that online banking sign, I wouldn't have thought this was a toll booth. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 18:47

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lol! No, I have not.  we don’t live in a salt zone either, so that probably helps.

Only Vespas... > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 18:47

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Pilots say: Never fly an “A” model of anything. The first Bronco is definitely an “ A” model. Waiting for the price to come down, used Broncos to appear, and bugs to ironed out is not a bad thing.

Tripper > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 21:16

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Damn I take it that they are “loaded to the gills”? Or are they just jackin everyone because it’s new?

John Norris (AngryDrifter) > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/17/2020 at 22:22

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I think r ed is the worst color for durability .

Stef Schrader > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/18/2020 at 00:41

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Oof, that’s gnarly.

DipodomysDeserti > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/18/2020 at 05:16

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Should put them on par with Jeep. The axles on mine somehow rusted more than ‘66 GMC.

BigBlock440 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/20/2020 at 14:52

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H ey, I’m not that old, solidly a millennial .