No title? No problem!

"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher) 06/13/2020 at 20:57 • Filed to: two wheels good

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The great state of Vermont has me covered! They gladly sent me a license plate and sticker to my Illinois address, in exchange for a very reasonably sized check. I got a very friendly phone call from Pam at the Vermont DMV, when there was a small omission on my application. Nothing a couple minutes on the phone couldn’t take care of.

The Hooligan is now registered and legal!

jminer > shop-teacher 06/13/2020 at 21:33

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Awesome! I never did that as I was worried the cops would hassle me about it.

How long did it take to complete the paperwork and get the plates?

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > shop-teacher 06/13/2020 at 21:39

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Does this work for things other than motorcycles?

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > shop-teacher 06/13/2020 at 21:50

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The fact you can legally register a vehicle in another state you don’t even live in still makes absolutely no sense to me...that’s impossible here in Canada. Especially considering Vermont is on the COMPLETE other side of the country from you...

Here, i f you move to a different province or territory you need to get a plate for your vehicle FROM THAT PROVINCE that you move to within, I think it’s like 30-90 days or something like that.

If you now have it titled and registered in Vermont....does that mean you could now go to the DMV in Cali and say ‘Hey look, I DO have a title for this in Vermont now, can I register it here?’

Wackiness...

facw > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 06/13/2020 at 21:55

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Most US states have similar laws but of course they aren’t well enforced.

And yeah, if nothing else, having a title will make it easier to get registered properly in Illinois.

shop-teacher > jminer 06/13/2020 at 22:07

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It took a couple of weeks. One weird thing is the license plate and the registration sticker come from different offices, so at first I got a plate with no sticker. I called Pam back and was told not to worry, that I was legal to ride with the paperwork that came with the plate until the sticker showed up.

sdwarf36 > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 06/13/2020 at 22:11

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Yes. Shhhh.

shop-teacher > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 06/13/2020 at 22:25

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Technically that is the law here. Odds of getting pulled over for having an put of state plate are just this side of nil.

Anyways, I don’t have it titled. Vermont doesn’t issue titles for bikes under 300cc, or for any vehicle over 15 years old. All you need is a bill of sale, and a check, and they’ll register it.

shop-teacher > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 06/13/2020 at 22:32

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It will work for motorcycles under 300cc, and vehicles older than 15 years. Vermont does not issue titles for either of those categories. You need a bill of sale, and if it's over 500cc you'll need to submit a VIN check to make sure it isn't stolen.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > shop-teacher 06/13/2020 at 23:35

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But if it’s not technically legal there, as you say...why did the DMV in Vermont let you do it knowing you don’t live there and even mailing the plates to you in Cali ? 0_o

Not complaining, it’s great that you can ride your little scoot now...I just don’t understand it, lol!

shop-teacher > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 06/14/2020 at 09:05

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There’s no federal law against it. Illinois law (I’m not in Cali) says that because I am a resident here, I should register it here. The odds of me getting pulled over for having an out of state plate are miniscule. Odds of me getting pulled over for something else, and the cop caring that I have Vermont plates, are pretty low as well.

Vermont recognized that there was a hole in the market, so to speak. There are untold thousands of motorcycles and scooters that people have lost the title to, and therefore couldn't be registered . So Vermont started a program specifically for people from out of state to register their bikes with them, no title necessary. It’s a genius bit of policy making. I’ve never set foot inside of Vermont, but now they have $84 of my dollars.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > shop-teacher 06/14/2020 at 09:37

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I guess you take the section in the market you can make money from!

“I’m not in Cali” - Sorry, for some reason got you mixed up with ImmoralMinority for a sec in my brain! :P

shop-teacher > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 06/14/2020 at 09:48

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Exactly!

And no worries :)