"Nothing" (nothingatalluseful)
06/05/2020 at 11:30 • Filed to: None
3
36|
"Nothing" (nothingatalluseful)
06/05/2020 at 11:30 • Filed to: None | 3
| 36 |
The Jeep is a better fit for me than the 4Runner.
I drove the 4Runner and the Grand Cherokee back to back yesterday. The Jeep has a much more comfortable driving position than the 4Runner for me. I rarely, if ever, drive the Jeep. I’m tall, and the 4Runner has the typical Toyota (maybe it’s just Toyota SUV/truck) issue of the steering column not extending enough to make the seat position comfortable for tall people. Is it horrible? No. But it’s just enough to make it not perfect. If I had to choose between the two for a comfortable cross country trip, the Jeep would win hands down. If I had to take the 4Runner, it would be completely fine, just not as comfy.
On the flip side, riding shotgun in the Grand Cherokee sucks. The footwell shape is terrible and my feet and up skewed to the right, which means I never want to ride in the thing. I can’t ride passenger in the 4Runner, the passenger side seat is not height adjustable, and with the sunroof, I have no head room. Jokingly, I told my wife yesterday I should take the Jeep, and trade the 4Runner in on a new ride for her. She likes the Jeep, though, and has no desire to replace it.
No Mustang news. I’ve ordered some parts for it, and plan on ordering more soon. The stockpiling of parts begins!
HammerheadFistpunch
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 11:48 |
|
Toyota’s have always been about fitting people my size (5'9")...part of the reason I like them. Whenever I drove our S uburans I felt lost in the shapeless void of space.
PatBateman
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 11:49 |
|
Now trade them both in for a Hellcat GC.
Nibby
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 11:50 |
|
trade them both in for a geo tracker
|
PatBateman
> Nibby
06/05/2020 at 11:52 |
|
You’re sick.
|
Nibby
> PatBateman
06/05/2020 at 11:53 |
|
everyone else is. i’m perfect
MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick)
> HammerheadFistpunch
06/05/2020 at 12:01 |
|
Being another short person with smaller feet I always feel a tiny bit validated when I hear about people not fitting in X car or not being able to enjoy stuff like Miatas and Kei cars because they genuinely don’t fit. As much as being larger may be nice, I’m very thankful I don’t have to deal with that problem. Especially with my affinity little cars.
I love reading about individual criteria for people’s car shopping/preferences too. The things that they need/want in a car that are absolutely unique to them.
Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 12:03 |
|
Wait, the passenger seat is not height adjustable? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy not? It's pretty easy to shove a manual seat adjustment rack under a seat so why not?
|
Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
> HammerheadFistpunch
06/05/2020 at 12:04 |
|
You can design a car that is comfortable for people of all normal heights, men and women, but it just takes a lot of effort.
|
HammerheadFistpunch
> Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
06/05/2020 at 12:10 |
|
“You can design a car that is comfortable for people of all normal heights”
but...they did.
Im dead nuts average American man (in terms of height)
|
Nothing
> Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
06/05/2020 at 12:14 |
|
Crazy, huh? At least having the driver side adjustable is a win....the Tacoma didn’t have that.
|
Nothing
> PatBateman
06/05/2020 at 12:15 |
|
That would be quite fun. When I bought the 4Runner, I was going to test drive a Durango RT, but never did.
MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
> HammerheadFistpunch
06/05/2020 at 12:17 |
|
I’m slightly taller than average? Sweet! lol
I guess my view of average is just skewed by my friend group, most of whom are over 6'
|
Nothing
> MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick)
06/05/2020 at 12:18 |
|
Since I bought one, it wasn’t a deal breaker. I’ve been in Toyotas so long now, it seems, that I’m used to the driving position.
For the 4Runner, I wanted something I could moderately off-road and had a third row. The new vehicle market for that is surprisingly small. Do I NEED a third row, not really, but it’s nice to have when I do.
I like small cars too, I’ve had 2 CRXs, a NA Miata (I don’t fit in an ND), MGB, and I’m sure others I’m forgetting.
|
Nothing
> HammerheadFistpunch
06/05/2020 at 12:22 |
|
If the steering wheel would extend maybe another inch, I’d be golden. I remember when I test drove a Challenger, it seemed like it extended about a foot.
fintail
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 12:25 |
|
I had an Overland version of the Jeep as an ill-fated (not my nor the car’s fault) rental a little while back - I actually quite liked it. Build seemed solid, very comfortable, good road trip car. It did seem to be a bit of a guzzler, might be the only drawback.
I see the appeal in the new 4Runner, but I guess as I don’t need the capability, I won’t trade it for material and feature refinement. No matter, as I’d still rather have a normal car.
|
HammerheadFistpunch
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 12:25 |
|
Toyota has been frustratingly stubborn when it comes to making relatively easy ergo changing that mean a lot to people on either side of the average . W hen you announce a seat that can go up as a big feature in the new Tacoma, it shows how much it takes for them to make the change. I respect “Ever better” (don’t change what works) but after a while...you gotta re-evaluate what actually works.
|
PatBateman
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 12:27 |
|
We almost went and test drove a Durango R/T when shopping for my wife’s new-ish car last year, but we stopped looking when she found her Lexus GX 460.
|
Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 12:27 |
|
What? My dad’s 02 Tundra has a power adjustable driver’s seat that does height, but I guess I never noticed the passenger just had manual tilt and slide. My Cruze has full manual controls for the passenger and driver though, but trucks seem to lack features of passenger cars even now that they have become lifestyle vehicles.
|
Nothing
> fintail
06/05/2020 at 12:56 |
|
Our Overland is the V6 and is actually ok on gas. With my family being less receptive to off-roading and camping than I expected, the 4Runner isn’t quite filling to role it was supposed to fill. There are times I’ve thought, hmm, maybe I should just get a 6 speed A ccord, or a decent hatch/wagon I can haul my son and his hockey goalie gear in.
There are better solutions to the vehicle configuration I currently have, I’m sure.
Future next gen S2000 owner
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 13:30 |
|
Ohhh! A good what car should I buy. Given the Jeep will/could handle most mild off-roading and camping adventures, what vehicle should Huzer buy as a trade in on the 4Runner?
The answer is obvious.
|
Nothing
> Future next gen S2000 owner
06/05/2020 at 13:46 |
|
Not enough seats. S2Ks sure are fun though!
|
Future next gen S2000 owner
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 14:12 |
|
I’m sorry, it has a driver’s seat. Your statement does not compute.
DerW220
> HammerheadFistpunch
06/05/2020 at 14:12 |
|
I think you know what he meant. He said "normal", not average: As in no height outliers.
|
DerW220
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 14:13 |
|
Cu rrent Grand Cherokee is probably the most reliable vehicle FCA produces by far. I’m sure that’ll change for a few years when they release the new one.
KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 14:20 |
|
T rade them both in, get a Dodge Durango R/T. # Winning!
|
Nothing
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
06/05/2020 at 14:37 |
|
I debated one before the 4Runner. My neighbor has one (actually, they have two Durangos) and it’s a nice ride.
|
Nothing
> DerW220
06/05/2020 at 14:38 |
|
It’s been good for us, although it does only have 30k it.
|
fintail
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 14:45 |
|
I was in IA/MN most of the time with that Jeep, ethanol fuel probably didn’t help the mpg. I can see why those Jeeps continue to be sellers though, if I lived in a snowier area, I’d consider one. I haul my hockey gear in a MB wagon, and it works fine, although in terms of value it might not be there for many people - I think you also have to be into the car to justify it. I am, so it works.
Just like you and the 4Runner - you like it. And if you part with it, you’ll probably get most of your money back.
|
Nothing
> fintail
06/05/2020 at 14:52 |
|
One of my son’s former coaches has a 14-15 (forget the year) E class wagon that he uses for nice weather. His winter beater? An immaculate ‘92 M5 that he bought in ‘95.
For me, the Mustang will be a labor of love that I’ll keep to hand down. The 4Runner? It’s more of a tool that gets me where I need to go. Emotionally, I’m not invested at all in it.
|
HammerheadFistpunch
> DerW220
06/05/2020 at 15:03 |
|
I get the meaning, the imlpications is that Toyota didn’t try to do that. My arguement is that they actually did, just ignoring outliers.
|
fintail
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 15:19 |
|
Crazy beater choice, he might be doing it wrong. Wagon needs to be the harsh weather DD, the M5 kept as a gem, as eventually it will be like most unrestored cars, surviving on luck as much as anything, and you have to be careful with a “forever car”.
Already attached enough to keep the Mustang as an heirloom? That’s great.
|
Nothing
> fintail
06/05/2020 at 15:31 |
|
Crazy thing is his garage queen, Crossfire SRT6.
He does take good care of the M5 though. The transmission went out on him last spring, the only replacement he could find was in Sweden, so he had it shipped over. Other than some paint fade on the trunk, it’s really in remarkable shape.
I’ve been searching for a Mustang forever. I’d have loved a fastback, but I didn’t have the budget for that. The coupe will do nicely.
|
fintail
> Nothing
06/05/2020 at 16:21 |
|
That’s an oddball. I actually don’t mind the Crossfire convertible, but the coupe is still a little odd to me. I don’t hate it though.
Maybe the M5 will be an eventual restoration. Cars like that are the future of collectibles. I’d keep it away from winter roads though, they aren’t exactly rust-repellant.
You did so well buying that Mustang, you can really spruce it up (doesn’t seem to need a ton to be a good driver, which is really the best condition for an old car) and still be in good shape.
adamftw
> Nothing
06/22/2020 at 08:45 |
|
Old post but....
How’s the rear seat compare in the two?
|
Nothing
> adamftw
06/22/2020 at 10:43 |
|
The rear seats in the Jeep have heat controls, the 4Runner does not. The Jeep also has USB ports for the rear seat, the 4Runner does not, but does have a 12 volt connection. Both rear seats can recline. There’s more rear headroom in the Jeep, but I’m also fine in the 4Runner. Knee/leg room feels about the same. The seat in the Jeep is lower, the 4 Runner is higher, so for me, it feels a bit airier in the back seat in the Toyota.
The folding split is different, it’s a 60/40 in the Jeep, it’s 40/20/40 in the 4Runner. It’s nice to have the center section for pass through items ( in my case, hockey sticks). Both vehicle seats just fold forward, leaving the seat bottoms in place. (In the non third row 4Runner, though, it’s a different design, the seat bottoms flip forward, then you fold the seat back).
One thing the 4Runner does have (but only with third row seats) is that the second row can slide. That’s helpful to expand the cargo area a bit but still have a rear seat when needed.
|
adamftw
> Nothing
06/22/2020 at 12:32 |
|
Thanks for that. Gonna start shopping few year old ones end of summer/fall. I know the Jeep will drive better, but I’m not the biggest fan of the driver’s position..
. my dad has had a 4
since 2005.
Haven’t driven a 5th gen T4R yet.