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"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12) 04/19/2020 at 17:44 • Filed to: None

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Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Nauraushaun 04/19/2020 at 17:48

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1800 is good but 1800 ES is even better. That said, I would still take it. Nice spotting!

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Nauraushaun 04/19/2020 at 17:52

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Those old Volvo P1800s are gorgeous...

Nauraushaun > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 04/19/2020 at 18:45

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The phrase “shooting brakes” gets bandied around a lot.

The ES is a brake.

Nauraushaun > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 04/19/2020 at 18:46

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Weird isn’t it. Volvo these days makes some attractive cars, and has in the past. But nothing like the P1800, seems to be a real outlier in their history

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Nauraushaun 04/19/2020 at 18:57

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But that is like the definition of a shooting brake. The practical sports car with a long roof doesn’t just become a normal two door wagon. There are plenty of non-sporty two door wagons (VW Type III Sq ua reback for instance) and the Volvo is definitely sporty and with a raked roofline.

Nauraushaun > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 04/19/2020 at 20:21

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Haha, we’re in agreement. I’m saying the ES is definitely a shooting brake. It’s the exact definition of one. Something like the later Volvo hatches that share the glass rear door and are sort of long hatches - they’re brake-ish. But the P 1800 ES might be the most brakey car there is.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Nauraushaun 04/19/2020 at 20:36

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Well, shooting brakey. Brake just means wagon so there’s the misunderstanding. Shooting implies sporti ness.

Nauraushaun > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 04/19/2020 at 20:53

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Ah. I actually thought “brake” just meant carriage or something, and any modern usage of it was just borrowed from “shooting brake”, and the Jaguar XF Sportbrake is doing just that.

I’m not sure if shooting implies sportiness, it’s derived from literally carrying guns with you.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Nauraushaun 04/19/2020 at 21:01

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Hmm something like that. I know brake means wagon so an XF sportbrake isn’t a shooting brake because two doors. I guess the shooting brakes were two doors and fast or something for shooting. I r eally don’t know.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Nauraushaun 04/19/2020 at 21:17

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Yup, I LOVE the lines on it...gorgeous car, so vastly different from all their awesome but very angular ‘bricks’ through the ages...