Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Regimen Origin

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
04/02/2020 at 17:08 • Filed to: None

T his is a New York Times story, so Liberal Spin Alert, but if you sweep away that layer, the reader finds more layers. What I find, well, ironic , is that the same group of people who are cry ing, “Let’s not get carried away with this coronivirus thing because the economy and all that! ” well, it ain’t the tune they’re singing about hydroxychloroquine and now lupus patients can’t get their treatments. So yeah. Our country has a broad political spectrum of broken brains.

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415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/02/2020 at 17:10

Kinja'd!!!

For Sweden > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/02/2020 at 17:16

Maybe if Dr. House didn’t diagnose everyone with lupus, we would have enough for everyone.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
04/02/2020 at 17:16

Trump Derangement Syndrome is no respecter of party affiliation.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/02/2020 at 17:19

Read that article earlier today. I like how the guy’s been sharing pro-Trump memes and is a supporter, yet oh golly no that has nothing to do with his MEDICAL opinions!

And yes, he believes in the importance of scientific research and clinical trials, but look it worked for this extremely tiny group of people he treated without any scientific approach, so anyone who doesn’t want to sign up for this is clearly a liberal crook who wants to bring our president down!

Grindintosecond > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/02/2020 at 17:21

Automatic assumption everything they do is a liberal spin? Fox ain’t any better by the same measuring stick.

Neither is epoch times, which I must mention given every YouTube video I see has their advert.

Just Jeepin' > Grindintosecond
04/02/2020 at 17:30

Yeah, Epoch Times’ “non-partisan” label they’ve given themselves is a crock of shit.

Grindintosecond > Just Jeepin'
04/02/2020 at 17:36

Love how they say that, then immediately jump into the latest revelations in their spygate coverage.....

Just Jeepin' > Grindintosecond
04/02/2020 at 17:38

I’m always torn between wanting to turn them off as quickly as possible vs wanting them to have to pay for the ad I’m trying not to watch.

ttyymmnn > Just Jeepin'
04/02/2020 at 18:05

As Al Franken said (I think) , “Any news outlet that claims to be fair and balanced isn’t.”

Chariotoflove > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/02/2020 at 18:14

Great. I clicked on this article thinking it was going to inform me about further research into the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine on virus uptake. Instead it was just a Gaw ker-esque diatribe designed to let people feel better about themselves by rolling their eyes and sneering at other people. It’s become our favorite national pastime. Useless.

My wife and I were talking about the reported data so far. It’s promising, but extremely limited, and the results should be taken with an entire shaker of salt. The biomedical community knows this, and will act accordingly, regardless of what reporters and talk show hosts say.

My wife was off the opinion that there is no reason to not authorize this use for an FDA-approved medication, as long as prescribers stick to doses and contraindications published to keep it safe. I agreed. But I had a concern that providers might start to horde medication in anticipation of a possible breakthrough finding and thereby leave supplies too short for those who need it for things for which we know it is effective. That would be the true stupidity in my view. In the end, we are both glad that her three month plaquenil prescription was just filled, so we don't have to worry about it.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Chariotoflove
04/02/2020 at 19:57

Gawker-esque: I tried to cover that angle in my post so it wouldn’t have to annoy anyone . I thought an interesting aspect was that the thing started in an Hasidim community, for one. There’s been much talk that I’ve heard, including reasons why scientifically, one cannot lend much credence to this “data.” I had not heard where the President Trump ear worm/brain worm originated. I thought my post said pretty much what you’ve said, albeit perhaps less eloquently.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Grindintosecond
04/02/2020 at 20:00

I’m not bashing the NYT, but trying to preempt others from bashing me for reading the NYT. I think it’s a great story and you just have to consider the source. That’s what I was trying to say. By that measuring stick, there are probably bits of real journalism in Fock Snooze’s slurry, but I never stick around long enough to find it. I’d heard all kinds of reporting around this, but never where President Trump’s thinkaloud began.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Grindintosecond
04/02/2020 at 20:01

What I think the NYT does that gets labeled “liberal spin” is getting into how people feel about things and how things affect people.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Just Jeepin'
04/02/2020 at 20:02

*chuckles*

Grindintosecond > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/02/2020 at 20:28

I consider Fox more if it's in print and as actual reporting. They disguise so much opinion as news it's really hurting credibility. But 30% don't care.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Grindintosecond
04/02/2020 at 20:31

I skip the cable news sources entirely. All of them. I give the bulk of my attention to the Wall Street Journal and some to the NYT -- have to pay for both -- and some other sources.

Chariotoflove > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/02/2020 at 20:58

Oh no, your disclaimer was effective. And I’m not criticizing you for what the article said. I read through it because I thought I could wade through any “liberal spin ” and glean information. I was disappointed because it didn’t seem to really have any information, but was essentially a slam of stupid people. I kind of expected a higher standard from the NY Times.

The story about this doctor is interesting (his interpretation of his observations, not the part where they tar him with a right wing brush; that’s boring) . It highlights for me the dual nature of the medical practitioner. We live in the age of evidence-based medicine, but the practice of medicine is still a hybrid of science and craft. Some physicians are more scientist, and some tend more toward the craft.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Chariotoflove
04/02/2020 at 21:22

Do you know the Russell Crowe movie “ Master and C ommander?” There’s a scene after the crew puts the juju on the young en sign where the captain tells the ship’s doctor that there are some things that you just can’t read about in one of the doctor's medicine books. that is a favorite movie of mine. If you haven’t seen it, I can’t recommend it highly enough.

Chariotoflove > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/02/2020 at 21:25

Yeah, I enjoyed that movie.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Chariotoflove
04/02/2020 at 21:26

Is your wife also a researcher?

Chariotoflove > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/02/2020 at 21:31

She used to be, before the RA . Pediatric oncologist with research in cancer gene expression. We met in the lab when we were both in school.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Chariotoflove
04/02/2020 at 21:57

Studying anatomy and physiology, right? Ha!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Chariotoflove
04/02/2020 at 21:57

RA?

Chariotoflove > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
04/02/2020 at 21:58

Rheumatoid arthritis.

AdverseMartyr > For Sweden
04/03/2020 at 07:00

Well, it’s clearly from the father’s side. You can tell by the cleft chin.