"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
03/07/2020 at 22:39 • Filed to: None
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"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
03/07/2020 at 22:39 • Filed to: None | 4
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A suspect for being nearby? I’ve done exactly what this guy did, riding loops along a specific route. It’s one of the safe loops that I feel comfortable riding in Louisiana . I hope nobody’s house was burgled when I was nearby.
wafflesnfalafel
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/07/2020 at 22:50 |
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C an I interest you in an entertaining novel? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> wafflesnfalafel
03/07/2020 at 22:53 |
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I’ve been re- reading novels these days, now I really wanna ready 1984...
WilliamsSW
> wafflesnfalafel
03/07/2020 at 22:53 |
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I think our current world is Braver than that tbh .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World
BaconSandwich is tasty.
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/07/2020 at 22:55 |
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I can see both sides. The police now have a tool to find suspects, which is kind of a good thing. Solving crimes is a good thing. But at what cost? It’s a bit like trawling. Yes, it catches some fish you want, but also rips up the sea bed and damages all sorts of things.
There almost needs to be some sort of impartial man in the middle to prevent abuses, but still help both sides.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> wafflesnfalafel
03/07/2020 at 22:58 |
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Read it back in the day....
sony1492
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/07/2020 at 22:59 |
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Is invading everyone’s privacy on a deep level really worth enforcing law?
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> BaconSandwich is tasty.
03/07/2020 at 23:00 |
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When I read it, I was wondering how much of the area the original warrant covered. If it were large enough, it might have picked up the guy’s entire route. Then again, it might have resulted in them kicking down his door.
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wafflesnfalafel
> WilliamsSW
03/07/2020 at 23:08 |
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Those two, plus Animal Farm and the films Brazil and Soylent Green as a nice fluffy closer make a nice, quick refresher... Then pull yourself together with David McCullough’s Path Between the Seas and 1776.
smobgirl
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/07/2020 at 23:24 |
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I actually just deleted Nextdoor because I don’t need my real name associated with anything online when property records are public here. Enough creepy people around without that mess.
(I only joined to post the dog I found)
Chariotoflove
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/07/2020 at 23:35 |
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I do exactly the same thing and use Cyclemeter to measure. The homes I go by are pretty expensive. I might as well turn myself in now.
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WilliamsSW
> wafflesnfalafel
03/07/2020 at 23:38 |
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If you have any faith in humanity at all, that is guaranteed to take care of that.
SmugAardvark
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 00:11 |
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Time to go full-on Howard Hughes.
Bring me some mason jars!
CB
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 01:10 |
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“Rode a bike by a house multiple times” is pretty shitty grounds for arrest, so I imagine this wouldn’t be enough for anything . The person might be looked into, yes, but being a suspect doesn’t mean you’re getting charged (hell, being arrested doesn’t even mean you’re getting charged).
In any case, I’m shocked there haven’t been more constitutional appeals for data farming like this.
Just Jeepin'
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 03:05 |
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Related: sometimes the police are just a little too eager.
https://www.theroot.com/cops-just-wont-stop-handcuffing-black-children-11-year-1842179171
DipodomysDeserti
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 06:37 |
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Very strange. How did the PD even know to request his info specifically? My brother’s house was burglarized a few months ago, and the cops showed up hours later, putting very little effort into an investigation.
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DipodomysDeserti
> BaconSandwich is tasty.
03/08/2020 at 06:38 |
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The fact you compared it to trawling shows how absurdly unnecessary it is. That’s just about the least sustainable, most destructive way to fish.
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ihm96
> BaconSandwich is tasty.
03/08/2020 at 07:05 |
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Really tho? Tracking an exercise app is not going to find you any criminals. No thugs are like okay guys set your Fitbit before we start this hit! Gotta make sure we get our steps in along the way !
facw
> BaconSandwich is tasty.
03/08/2020 at 08:14 |
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I’m ok with getting this sort of information with a warrant and limited scope. I think the big thing is that having this sort of data is relatively new, and police need to understand the limitations, and that just being in the area is no proof of anything. Given the current state of policing in this country, I have my doubts...
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> DipodomysDeserti
03/08/2020 at 11:43 |
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When they make a geofence request, they are asking for all GPS tracking data within a given time period and distance. They sift through all of the data and look for anything “suspicious” like someone passing by three times in an hour.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> ihm96
03/08/2020 at 11:46 |
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The problem is that when the exercise app is turned on, google starts capturing location data too. The cops didn’t ask for the fitness app data, they asked for google’s tracking data.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> Chariotoflove
03/08/2020 at 11:51 |
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Yep. You’re a suspect. I used to use Strava. It was fun to see how I compared to other riders. Then people started setting new records by driving the routes with Strava active. There was no point in having it after that.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> smobgirl
03/08/2020 at 11:52 |
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Our neighborhood has a Facebook group. I avoid it like the plague.
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DipodomysDeserti
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 12:24 |
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SCOTUS ruled in 2018 that law enforcement need a warrant for such requests. The case dealt specifically with a robbery and the use of metadata to look for suspects.
This guy should sue Google.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> DipodomysDeserti
03/08/2020 at 12:36 |
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There was a warrant issued for the data.
“The lawyer, Caleb Kenyon, dug around and learned that the notice had been prompted by a “geofence warrant,” a police surveillance tool that casts a virtual dragnet over crime scenes, sweeping up Google location data — drawn from users’ GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and cellular connections — from everyone nearby.”
Google notified him of the request and told him they would release the data if he did not secure a lawyer and block the request.
“[The e-mail] was from Google’s legal investigations support team, writing to let him know that local police had demanded information related to his Google account. The company said it would release the data unless he went to court and tried to block it. He had just seven days.”
In this case, Google did the right thing by notifying him. It could have been prevented if he had his privacy settings adjusted to keep Google from collecting the data in the first place.
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DipodomysDeserti
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 13:02 |
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Didn’t see that. Pretty concerning that such an warrant would be issued. Settings won’t matter too much as they can always just collect cell tower ping data. That’s what was done in the SCOTUS case.
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Chariotoflove
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 20:43 |
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Only person I ride against is myself. I dl’d this app instead of a cycle computer. Maybe I’ll get one after all.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> Chariotoflove
03/08/2020 at 20:53 |
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I picked up Strava so I could track my heart rate along with my ride. I started paying attention to the leaderboards to gauge my performance. I tend to work harder when the bar is set high.
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Chariotoflove
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 21:18 |
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I do the old fashioned thing of picking someone ahead of me and seeing if I can stay with them. Have to pick carefully though when you’re using arms and everyone else has legs.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> Chariotoflove
03/08/2020 at 21:25 |
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In my current condition, I’d do well to keep up with you, I’m sure. I was making progress, then I came down with the flu. Now I’m trying to figure out where I’m going to get everything set up at home. My wife made faces when I suggested the office. I won’t ride in the garage unless we get a/c in there. It’s just too hot.
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Chariotoflove
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 22:04 |
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You’re being generous. Anyway, you’ll climb to your precious plateau pretty quickly once you get going.
Sorry you’ve been chased out of your office. Gone too long I guess!
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> Chariotoflove
03/08/2020 at 22:11 |
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I was gone too long. That and they landed several big contracts. I talked with the boss yesterday and he’s looking to expand the office space again. We have one empty seat and a need to hire at least five or six new people.
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Chariotoflove
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 22:37 |
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Too bad you can’t get him to pay for an addition to your house.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> Chariotoflove
03/08/2020 at 23:04 |
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Hah!
Hey, boss! I’d be perfectly willing to work from home, considering the lack of space in the office and the recent COVID-19 outbreak. Now, all we need to do is add an additional 150 sq. ft. onto the back of my house....
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Chariotoflove
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/08/2020 at 23:05 |
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Tell him you’d settle for a trailer?
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> Chariotoflove
03/08/2020 at 23:06 |
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Maybe I can get him to foot the bill for my storage building!
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Chariotoflove
> TheRealBicycleBuck
03/09/2020 at 00:02 |
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If you don’t ask, you don’t get, as my mom always said.