Events in Vienna provide another argument on the zero tolerance towards terrorism and extremists, policy

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone)
11/05/2020 at 11:56 • Filed to: None

Austria decided to adopt the “neutrality” model, because the Swiss made it attractive. Austria is not in NATO and doesn’t really send troops to international missions, since the terrible outcome WW1 and WW2 had for them. They even want to sell their Eurofighters to Indonesia and use trainers for air police missions.

Yet Austria gets attacked in such a brutal way, by misery in human form.

Maybe after that, Austria will understand that you don’t negotiate with rats. You exterminate them. You don’t try to reason with them. You don’t try to understand them. You don’t try to correct them and you don’t try to integrate them back into society. You blow them up to tiny bits. Having links to terrorists/being a terrorist should be equivalent to a death sentence.

DISCUSSION (22)

For Sweden > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 12:18

Trade Turkey for Austria*

*then invite Turkey back when Erdoan leaves

Kinja'd!!!

DipodomysDeserti > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 12:23

Are we still at war with terrorists? I thought we had moved on to viruses?

OPPOsaurus WRX > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 12:26

wow, with the shitstorm happening in the US i missed this completely. thats really terrible.

CB > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 12:27

This is a take I don’t agree with. An eye for an eye and all that.

People will be bastards and you can’t eliminate an ideology. I feel like these things will happen regardless as to whether you start an eighteen year war or not.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > For Sweden
11/05/2020 at 12:29

if, you mean

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > CB
11/05/2020 at 12:40

Ideas can’t be killed, but people and organizations can. Nowadays, European terrorists like ETA and the IRA seem distant and reasonable next to ISIS. However, back then they were dealt with in the right way. You take out the leaders. After that you take out the known members. And after you take out suspects of being members. You do that again and again, until it’s clear that it’s not worth it to be a member of such organizations. Still, we will need most of the world to support such initiative. And I'm not convinced some countries of the world agree.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > DipodomysDeserti
11/05/2020 at 12:40

I thought we’d gotten off viruses and were back to fighting with each other.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > DipodomysDeserti
11/05/2020 at 12:41

We have many enemies.

Spanfeller is a twat > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 12:47

I mean this is a perfect ideology.

unless the others think you’re the terrorist...

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > CB
11/05/2020 at 12:49

Trying to bomb countries back to the stone age when they are pretty much already there economically, politically, culturally and religiously isn’t going to solve anything.

You’re just gonna piss off more people. Soft power is the way to go.

SiennaMan > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 12:50

So.... how do you adjudicate who is and isn’t a member? The IRA seems like a good example to bring up. The Brits basically fought a low level simmering war with the IRA for decades . Did it really accomplish what you say it did? It seems like it only keep the war going. I suppose they could have attempted to kill all of the Irish Catholics in or near Northern Ireland. Is that the manner of response you are suggesting? I feel like this only leads to a dehumanizing of life that would have broad consequences for a society..

Also, speaking of terror attacks, the worst one that I’ve seen on my local news was also carried out with guns that civilians don’t have need of, police responded even faster than in Austria to kill the shooter and twice as many people died and were wounded. The difference? The shooter was a white guy from a Christian family and community who grew up in the area. How do you solve that problem?

In my opinion, re sponding to random violence with bigger random violence is not going to solve the problem, it will just make matters worse for everyone.

just-a-scratch > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 13:38

A war against terrorism doesn’t work. You can’t kill or subjugate a concept. As you said, ideas can’t be killed.

A war against ISIS does make sense. There is a clear-ish adversary where real objectives can be achieved.

War should not be allowed to be some nebulous and unending aggression without clear goals.

Should Austria start an aggressive anti-terror effort? I’m not really opposed. It would be better if the who and what a terrorist is could be defined.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 13:39

TheRealBicycleBuck > CB
11/05/2020 at 14:07

“An eye for an eye” is a warning about consequences for your actions, not permission to retaliate.

In the New Testament, that notion is taken further :

But in Matthew (5:38-42) in the New Testament, Jesus repudiates even that notion. “Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.”

My bird IS the word > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 14:40

Or, you could be like china and put muslims INTO LITERAL CONCETRATION CAMPS and face zero repercussions or terrorist attacks . But the neutral country, fuck those assholes. What a wonderful world we live in.

InFierority Complex > DipodomysDeserti
11/05/2020 at 15:03

The US is capable of fighting fucking up multiple fronts simultaneously.

DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 15:11

Tangential , I find it hilarious we have two NATO countries possibly going to war.

It’s almost as if it’s obsolete and doesn’t serve any purpose, but encouraging US arms sales.

and 100 more > Snuze: Needs another Swede
11/05/2020 at 16:13

Wait, when are the murder hornets again?

and 100 more > TheRealBicycleBuck
11/05/2020 at 16:18

I think what he meant was the corollary “an eye for an eye makes the world blind. ”

newnamesameme > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
11/05/2020 at 16:26

Ask the usa how well that (doesn't) work.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > and 100 more
11/05/2020 at 17:05

They pick off the survivors.

TheRealBicycleBuck > and 100 more
11/05/2020 at 17:32

Ah, perhaps so.