![]() 11/04/2020 at 18:05 • Filed to: None | ![]() | ![]() |
Was forced to ride past this so I stopped and surveyed the scene until a policeman arrived (Yes I confirmed everyone was relatively OK before even coming to a stop). The vehicle has come to rest on a high traffic bike path on an unexpected 70 F day after snow has flown. Thankfully nobody was hit.
Now for the baffling part. You can see the light pole was not uprooted from uphill side picture was taken from along with a lack of evidence where vehicle left the road. Retaining wall also showed no signs of damage from a large vehicle ricocheting off it. Behind that lies a divided freeway ejection from would craft a very different scene from. Combined with the attitude of light pole I’m utterly confounded how this took place.
There were no eye witnesses. RAM driver was first person to come across the scene and was as mystified as myself.
[Update]
I rolled by again this afternoon to examine the scene better. All evidence points towards Federal/State charges being pressed depending on who has jurisdiction. She did in fact manage to get onto the bike path and drive uphill directly into a streetlamp. A feat that required considerable more skill than the collision would indicate.
Here we see the single tire track anywhere near the scene. P resumably left by her rear driver side tire when the sudden stop happened. Note it and the angle concrete base is leaning are parallel with the path. From the exit of very narrow walled in overpass corridor she had to bury the throttle to get up enough speed. Calling this solved.
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Can we get an above shot from google maps with a box for the car?
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Durango was traveling at a moderate rate of speed and missed that curve. Hit the light pole which entwined itself to the bumper, spun the Durango around. Eventually the bumper gave way and the Durango bumped up against the retaining wall. Gravity and inertia brought the pole down to its current rest.
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Give me a moment.
To get dinner started.
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Looks to me like the Durango was moving along the bike path and left the actual road somewhere outside of the frame (in the foreground).
Mud on RR tire, tire divots to the right of the bike path.
I think we also can’t see where the light pole was actually anchored here - unless it was in the mud divot. The pole got airborne and landed there - the base moved from its original location when the driver hit it.
![]() 11/03/2020 at 18:55 |
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Someone musta died... I would guess the smoker from cancer.
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It is the lack signs departing the road which would depict the manner in which driver could’ve possible accomplished a near impossible feat that confuse here.
Missing the speed limit sign would be a matter of mm to the left. To the right would require a fair amount of work to tag the light while maintaining speed. Entry to the bike path from lower end would be challenging. Yet the most probable explanation remains going 40 mph dead nuts into from the paved path. Again, zero signs on the road, path, or through tall weeds. Which you can see from all angles begin directly at light pole.
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Dammit, screenshots failed to post.
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Dammit. I’m trying not to laugh here.
She had a pretty good black eye and guy in the RAM had just walked away to greet the cop. I didn’t stick around any longer than it took to stow my phone at that point.
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Street sweeper had just gone through within the last few hours leaving path looking like that .
I believe what you are seeing is arc of light base before fulcruming over hood of SUV into final resting spot. I ran through the pertinent facts and posted photos in another reply. Literally zero sign of entry into the tall weeds or any marks on the curb.
![]() 11/03/2020 at 19:24 |
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After seeing that...yeah, I doubly second what I posted. The Durango driver went basically straight into that light pole from the southeast direction (heading north) and didn’t turn, inertia did the rest.
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Uphill banked turn and the angles just don’t work. Trust me I spent some time surveying this on the way past. RAM guy was sleuthing away interviewing the driver and everything. Both of us were shaking our heads. He spent a good two minutes talking to the cop before either walked up to the scene.
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Going right to left, not a chance. Everything including marks light pole made in ground are uphill.
Going left to right mows through deep weeds and leaves no end of other evidence that simply didn’t exist. I’m telling you it would be a very narrow thing missing the speed limit sign and hitting the pole square. Then a freak reaction that translate the force acting on vehicle in an odd direction forcing it at a near 18 0 degree angle to impact while the light pole magically avoids falling across a freeway and assumes a trajectory 90 degrees counter to logic.
That driver was not impaled by base of light rotating against retaining wall and being violently struck by multiple vehicles is a minor miracle. Again 0 Zero None Zilch for physical evidence. Not on curb, not through the weeds, nowhere.
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Durango was already backwards when it hits the pole. The grass gives it away
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It seems like a straight up hit could account for this but I’m almost confused as to how the base of the pole doesn’t appear to have moved much from its original location.
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What confuses me is that it appears as though there is a large quantity of grass stuck in the bumper from grazing this border with the path which wouldn’t seem to allow it to hit the pole on the left side of the vehicle, especially not without leaving other evidence on the grass.
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This comment makes zero sense to me. In what manner of travel can you hit something with your front end going backwards.
Front end of vehicle is, presumably, sitting in location light was installed. Scar alongside path is obviously from base of light before losing fight with gravity. It’s decidedly not from a vehicle which would leave anywhere between two and four sets of tire marks. There are none in frame.
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Exactly why my first amazed reaction was it somehow escaped the highway. Over a 3' wall on the inside of a downhill corner with traffic doing 40 (50+) mph is the least physically realistic explanation.
There must’ve been 20 vehicles stopped in the .1 mile area with people standing around outside trying to analyze this. There was an air of incredulity about it not present in many single vehicle property damage accidents.
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Vehicle appears to be resting on earth uprooted by pole. Which certainly could’ve been snowplowed by the vehicle. Obvious clues as to direction of travel don’t add up.
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I feel like you could make a short film about this. It's just so incredibly confusing in a really odd way.
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Wait, so the vehicle is resting in where the pole was originally anchored? This changes everything!
So the vehicle could have been driving down the bike path and veered into the pile, spinning the SUV around without somehow damaging the grass. Then, the pole falls on the roof, somehow not crushing it, which then allows it to bounce off the top of the wall and fall back over in the other direction. Maybe, but it's really unlikely.
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Back end slides between pole and retaining wall, front driver side makes contact with the pole ripping the bumper cover off. Pole falls down after durango has come to rest.
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I can see noms argument. There's too much room between the pole and tire marks on the grass.
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I’m still dying laughing at this.