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Original title: AARRRGGGHHH! FACTUAL INACCURACIES!
In an episode of Parks and Rec, Ron Swanson states that he’s driven the same car since 1991. On multiple occasions his car has been shown to be a second gen Park Avenue, which was launched in 1997.
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This image is really making me miss America right now.
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Yes, I also found this maddening.
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Well sometimes 1's look like 7's, and GM does use the same old tech for decades :p
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He's not wrong, bud light is terrible.
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The only reason to drink Bud Light is if Glorious High Life is not available
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Meanwhile...
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if you are going to drink you may as well drink champagne. That's why my fridge is full of High Life.
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It was nice today. I BBQed brats with foil packs of asparagus & sweet potatoes. Drank a beer while cooking.
#nothelping
When do you come back?
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You do realize his claim is meant as comedy because the lie is so blatant, right? Eek... You should not be watching comedy shows.
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Exactly. If you are going to have a budget beer, you might as well drink one that actually tastes good.
Also:
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Mr swanson constructed that himself with metal and brawn in 1991.
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Maybe he means he's driven Park Avenues since 1991, but not the same exact one.
Either that, or a wizard did it.
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Hey it won't be that sunny until at least, like, March! ; )
Looking at that barbecue though… mmmm I could go for a pulled pork sandwich or some brisket.
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You're right. Water is much better than bud light and therefore would never need to lie.
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Miller High Life tastes like baking soda.
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You think he'd actually show us his real car?
Why do you think he only showed one of his cabins? His name may not even be Ron Swanson.
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Parks & Rec now wiped from my watch list. What a shame.
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Coors Heavy.
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It's like sex in a canoe. It's fucking close to water.
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Haha that is NOT helping. I'll have to console myself with some with some delicious pastries tomorrow! I come back at the end of May so I've still got plenty of time to enjoy Paris/Europe. Haven't been in the states six months though so I'm starting to miss the little things. My girlfriend did bring me an entire pizza from a local place when she visited last month, maybe I can get my parents to bring me a tupperware container full of pulled pork or something.
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-1
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If he's anything like the typical Park Avenue driver, he's probably a touch senile...
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GM was so impressed, they stole his design.
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k
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This is a fine excuse to post this:
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If Ron is any kind of rugged outdoors, hunting man, he should be driving a 4-wheeled truck or similar, not grandmas Park Avenue. But then again, he really isn't much more than a rough and cranky office worker.
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In Jumanji, when Robin Williams asks the cop which year it is after jumping on his Caprice's hood , the cop answers "The car is brand new". The movie was set in 1995, but the Caprice was a '91!!!
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In Community, one of the characters, Jeff, drives a Black 2nd Gen Lexus IS 350. It's shown on screen and called by name multiple times.
In a episode a car alarm is going off, Jeff wonders if its his car
Abed says it is Jeff's car, recalling an incident similar the happened in 2002
Jeff says it is not his car
Abed then asks, if its a 2002
Jeff reacts and runs to his car.
2nd gen wasn't made until 2005.
I hate when shows mess up their cars :(
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I thought I was the only person who had ever noticed this.
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another cop car movie mistake, If you watch Wolf Of Wall Street, which takes place in the early 90s. DiCaprio's character is being dragged to a brand new Ford Crown Vic Interceptor.
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Well, to be fair, these shows are on NBC...a network known for its factual inaccuracies, particularly in its "news" division, but spread throughout all of its programming.
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Im so happy Im not the only one who gets irritated about that stuff. In Detroit they play an ad for a used car lot saying "we'll put you in a model year 2009 or newer!" yet the cartoon in the advertising is CLEARLY a fox body mustang. /rant
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Hmmm, I'll see your 6 year historical inaccuracy and raise you three decades...
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Just remembered, there are parts of the movie Lord of War that play in New York of the late 80s/early 90s, Nicolas Cage is driving around in a '93+ Fleetwood stretch limo which wasn't built back then.
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Yea well in Super Troopers they call Crown Vic a Caprice.
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Wait, what?! Is that seriously from Dallas Buyers Club?!
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For automotive (and general) inaccuracies galore, nothing tops Scorpion.
Cabe Gallo apparently owns the only 1973 LeMans without the "collonade" body style:
.....and in another episode, Toby seems to possess the only Buick-branded "Monte Carlo" convertible ever made.
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Yep. Ridiculous, but true. Actually spoiled the movie for me!
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THIS IS THE SHIT THAT GRINDS MY GEARS. when they dub the wrong car sounds. E92 M3, E60 M5 sound... fuck the editors.
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well he could have had the first Gen.. Then bought a second Gen.. Still driving a Park Avenue.
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that was a bit of a stretch there.
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I drive my wife nuts finding errors like this. :)
In two hours I am taking my 74 Beetle to a set where it will be used in a telemovie set in 1980.
Yes, I am completely serious. My old cars have been used in films before. Apparently this time they are changing all the plates and the registration labels on the windscreens to correct for the period. Otherwise they have pedants like me write in and complain.
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in Dexter, the sister wrecks her e46 3 series. When they go look at the car at the junkyard, they look at an e36
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The Banquet. A word synonymous with celebration cast away long ago. Yet, connotatively evokes a much more robust event than any "party". Banquets or nothing. Let's change the future.
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Thanks, Bruce.
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Just so we are all same-page, Coors Light freezes first in a walk-in cooler due to the highest water content. Still, I hate Bud Light more. Just wanted to bring facts to the trial.
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As mass marketed swill goes, High Life is not half bad.
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I mean, he has redacted almost all his history.
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Counterpoint:
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Only problem is this quote too is a factual inaccuracy. He actually refers to skim milk.
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The banquet beer for the win.
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You made a time machine... out of a Park Avenue?!
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Do any of these people strike you as someone who knows a thing about cars? As an aside, I had no idea Mose from The Office was a writer for P&R.
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He also drives a truck in at least one other episode. Maybe that's what he's taking about?
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I do believe you're thinking of "Fox."
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I always thought it was weird that he had a Park Ave. I mean, when I imagine what a Park Ave driver looks like Ron Swanson certainly fits the bill, but he seems like the kinda a guy that wouldn't go for useless luxuries found in a Buick. His Ford F150 seems much more inline with his character.
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I know it sounds incredibly petty and I'm not knocking the film itself, but, HOW HARD WAS IT TO FIND A COUNTACH POSTER?? They managed to find one for fucking 22 Jump Street, the props department has no excuse for that. They were just being lazy.
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I'm not sure about when the statement was made, but it could instead be referring to his truck.
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The episode where Leslie wins the election for council. I think it was a season or two before we ever saw the truck.
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This statement could still be true (albeit very up for debate on semantics) if he did not obtain the car until 1997 and prior to that point he did not possess a vehicle.
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SO much beer money in 80s racing.
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So it's a TV show! So the Brady bunch staircase goes the wrong way. So?
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Blood and nickels
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So are you also going to ignore the fact that Leslie's Honda Civic changes from blue to silver for no reason whatsoever?
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Maybe he has driven a Buick Park Avenue since 1991? Seeing as Buick no longer offers one then perhaps this is why he has stayed with his old 2nd generation model? If only he would go for a LaCrosse?
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How can we talk about automotive screw-ups in movies without discussing Sully's self-healing Porsche from Commando ?
Son of a bitch rolls the car onto it's side, then gets promptly dropped off a cliff by Matrix. In true Schwarzenegger fashion, he rolls the 911 back onto its wheels, and drives away with nary a scratch on the car.
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No, it really isn't. They also own MSNBC, too.
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Nope. NBC. Remember, they also own MSNBC, which can even get the time of day correct.
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first off this show is terrible, end of...
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Same. I loved the film, but when I saw the Aventador, I literally screamed "oh come on!" after that I lost focus on the plot.
It's such a glaring, glaring mistake, and it's not a quick pickup shot either. It's there for an entire scene.
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You are obviously incorrect. Ron Swanson made Buick give him a 2nd gen Park Avenue before they were created.
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I could have sworn it morphed into an Insight in one episode too.
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Ah lack of a hood ornament. That can only mean one thing. That this is a actually a Park Avenue Ultra with a Supercharged 3800 V6.
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Meh, no better or worse than other mainstream TV news. Dateline NBC made up a fake story about GM gas tanks exploding, but CBS' 60 Minutes lies about Audis suddenly accelerating without intent.
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He knows where all the gold is buried so it doesn't matter.
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I caught the Aventador right away the first time I watched that movie. At least the examples above are somewhat subtle, but the aventador in Dallas buyers club really chapped me.
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In Ocean's Eleven (the remake, not the original) Edward Norton's character talks about missing his "1953 Thunderbird."
Um...no.
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BAKING SODA I GOT BAKING SODA!
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The one that bugs me, is in Super Troopers. When they call in the plate number of the local cops' car, it comes back as a Chevy Caprice. All the cop cars in that movie were Crown Vics.
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If I'm too broke to drink craft beer (IPA's are my choice), I usually get Rolling Rock or Trader Joe's Simpler Times.
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Damn, another case of useless knowledge ruining entertainment. Try being a train nerd and watching any movie with a "vintage" setting filmed in the last 30 years.
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You are aware there is a Kinja blog for trains, right?
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They are all pretty bad, in actuality. But NBC is the worst, and has been for some time. Once CBS got rid of Rather after he faked the GW Bush military service docs, they had to clean up their act. NBC just doesn't care.
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Wait, Parks and Rec is a documentary?! How dare they lie to me!!
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"Well, this obviously isn't a documentary, maybe in addition to having actual alien invasions the development of trains was slightly accelerated in this parallel universe."
That usually works for me.
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PBR challenges for the Cheap Beer Flavor Savor.
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That's a negative. There were non-ultras without them too, especially in later years ('02 onward it seems). It appears to be a normal Park Ave.
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In an episode of the first season of The Wire a whale style Crown Vic (98+) pulls into an alley. It later gets torched and the burned remains are that of am aero style Crown Vic (97-). As a 99 owner, kinda stood out to me.
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+1 for Rolling Rock, my PBR alternative for a nice crisp pilsner.
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He had a truck, too:
Semantics, yes, but could explain some things.
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this also applies to aircraft on tv/film.. 747 seen at the gate, dc-9 interior, 737-400 taking off, 767 interior for in air scenes, 727 cockpit, A340 on arrival, deplane interior is back to dc-9 and plane at gate is a 777. I will also toss in wrong liveries and such.
Ruin's the film for me.
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Colorado Kool-aid.
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and after a while every vehicle becomes a VW.
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The first time I drank more than one beer I was drinking High Life. I got so "wasted" that night. I had like 7 beers, oh to be a kid again.
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Yup. This one pretty much.
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That one was pretty bad.
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If you really want to throw something at the tv, go fire up brick mansions on Netflix. There's a chase scene with a newish mustang, but all the interior shots are of some old van. Later there's a chase scene with that van, but all the interior shots are of the mustang. And despite both vehicles being automatics, the drivers are constantly making the shifting motion.
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Ron is known for bullshitting if it serves his purpose. Think of him as having a ulterior motive for lying about the car thing and enjoy the show.
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I would give him the benefit of the doubt and assume a ship of Theseus scenario. It's the same drivetrain but a different body, possibly to foil federal surveillance.