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![]() 05/31/2019 at 14:57 |
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heres my problem with impeachment, that means mike pence would become president. which is nearly just as bad for everyone except straight white males
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:03 |
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Should have a cover photo
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:04 |
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Counterpoint: pence has the charisma of a bowl of oatmeal
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:10 |
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So long as the inquisition is led by someone uncharismatic it’s ok
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:23 |
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Never discard charisma as a political tool.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:23 |
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The dems are overthinking this again... the initial take was do not impeach because current POTS is incapable of any meaningful policy. Wait it out to 2020 and then fuck the duck with a Biden run for pres. So yeah, if you are a dem. sorry for your future loss...
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:28 |
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Shouldn’t it be Pat?
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:34 |
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Last I checked the Handbook , a cover photo was suggested . Mods are among those who have recommended the post. NEVERTHELESS , I have edited the post to include a buffer image. *sighs*
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:35 |
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An antitrump, in that regard.
I’d have characterized Pence as a cheesecloth sack full of overcooked macaroni.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:36 |
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Just thinking to keep it civil
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:36 |
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My problem with impeachment is that when you wrestle a pig, you both get muddy, but the pig enjoys it. Trump likes to fight, and this would be the fight of his life.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:38 |
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Yep. My take as a Democrat is don’t impeach. Because if we do, here is what’ll likely happen:
A) F ails Senate trial, Trump stays in office. Trump gets to say this was all a witch hunt and will very likely get a second term.
B) Trump is removed from office and is replaced with Pence. Pence now has until the beginning of 2021 to push his agenda through. I bet Pence can do more damage in a year than Trump could do with four.
As much as it sucks and it feels like Trump is basically getting away with murder, I don't think impeachment is a risk worth taking.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:38 |
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I think Pence is much less dangerous. He’d appoint bad judges, and try to pass a bad agenda, but I don’t think he’s anywhere near as likely to undermine norms or institutions in the way Trump has been. And I think he’d have an even harder time being elected. Frankly he should be secretly courting GOP S enators who might like him more than Trump, he wouldn’t need to recruit that many.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:39 |
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You’ll have to be a little more explicit with me because I’m kind of slow. Are you predicting a Trump win in 2020 because Biden can’t? Fine, if so, and you’d not be alone in having that view. I personally do not favor impeachment; I favor electing people who are not like Donald Trump.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:40 |
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Except that Pat Sajak’s not on the stage, Bob (Mueller) is.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:42 |
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I think your views and mine are more or less in line, IIRC. I thought the cartoon was just plain funny at face value. *sighs again* Things are so depressing right now. And I see no path to them being less so.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:44 |
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lol thats basically the plot of House of Cards but from the other side of the isle
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:52 |
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Yes, sorry for the confusion, I don’t think Biden can take the election in 2020. We will have to see what the economy does, if it’s still pretty good the dems will have a difficult fight. It’s so baffling to me, no mater what kind of shit trump stirs up his base is as supportive as it ever was.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 15:54 |
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Yep. I knew I was missing something.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 16:10 |
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This article by Victor Davis Hansen is totemic in its illumination of my befuddlement with the current state of affairs.
http://victorhanson.com/wordpress/trump-has-become-the-democrats-great-white-whale/
“Democratic obsession with Trump...”
As you state, no matter what kind of s**t Trump stirs up, no matter what he does, doesn’t do, flagrantly flies in the face of law and decency, it Democrats’ failing for not giving it all a pass.
In my opinion, the only thing that’ll get a Democrat elected is sufficiently many people saying “enough,” and who’s running won’t matter much. And we’ll be left with six Catholics on the SCOTUS and the Senate stymied permanently by gerrymandering which, by the way, is fair play.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 16:14 |
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But Pence is quietly doing all of that while Trump broadcasts his nonstop s**t show.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 16:18 |
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Right, so getting rid of Trump certainly doesn’t make things any worse...
![]() 05/31/2019 at 16:21 |
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Finally people are starting to realize that Mitch McOnall and Nancy Pelosi are as much to blame for the current situation as the POTS.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 16:23 |
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I think we need to ride it out.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 16:26 |
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I think we’ll have to. But that doesn’t mean I think we’re better off than we would be if we could get rid of Trump.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 16:37 |
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This popped up in my Facebook feed in various forms (thanks, cousin Mark). I’m not getting involved in this political argument for my own sanity, but I did find this funny.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 16:40 |
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I think I hear you. I think an analogy might be, if we drive down that road and the wheels don’t fall off the wagon, how badly beaten up will the wagon get along the way?
![]() 05/31/2019 at 16:41 |
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I did not post the cartoon looking for any meaningful discussion; I just found it funny. I thought it summed things up very well.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 19:32 |
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I wasn’t aware of the change.
Only comforting part is we’re not the only cluster fuck.
![]() 05/31/2019 at 19:36 |
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https://images.app.goo.gl/zxHyEcLRrb1v8eDd8
![]() 05/31/2019 at 21:53 |
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Don’t assume the un charismatic can’t wield political power. See: Mitch McConnell
![]() 06/01/2019 at 07:29 |
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Well, that was entertaining.