"MooseKnuckles" (andyschenk)
05/30/2019 at 19:52 • Filed to: None
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"MooseKnuckles" (andyschenk)
05/30/2019 at 19:52 • Filed to: None | 2
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What the fuck happened to the Cadillac Bob Lutz got us excited about. They barely made V sport models and called it a day.
Like how Chev threw SS badges on whatever the fuck they wanted back in the 90s and 00s
Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 19:58 |
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These were definitely supposed to be V-Sports.
PatBateman
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 19:59 |
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The accountants won. This pisses me off SO MUCH.
WilliamsSW
> PatBateman
05/30/2019 at 20:05 |
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I would LOVE to get a CT5 as my next car.
Not gonna happen with this bullshit
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PatBateman
> WilliamsSW
05/30/2019 at 20:07 |
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I wanted to do the same, as I currently drive a 2nd gen CTS (with the DI 3.6). So now, I think I’ll be looking at trucks. Maybe a Raptor, those look neat.
DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 20:07 |
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I think a lot of people are overreacting here. Cadillac said themselves that this is “only the beginning” for the future of the V line. They’re probably going to bring out a new ultra V version with the same performance we expect from the line, similar to the AMG Black Series or the Audi RS series.
Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 20:08 |
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On the CT4-V, I’m surprised they’re using the 2.7L I4 van/truck motor and it only makes like an extra 10HP over that application.
And it’s lame that the CT5-V is down ~50HP even though it appears to be the same engine that was used in the CT6.
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 20:09 |
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...and you expected anything less from GM?
Pretty sad news...
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WilliamsSW
> PatBateman
05/30/2019 at 20:09 |
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I have a 6 year old Mercedes. TTV8 and 400+ horsepower. 0-60 in 4.5.
Is it an AMG? No it is fucking not.
Those engines should be 1 step up from the base 2.0. Not a “V”
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WilliamsSW
> DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!
05/30/2019 at 20:11 |
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I hope you’re right but I’m not optimistic.
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Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 20:12 |
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I found the info about these being BS here:
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2020-cadillac-ct4-v-ct5-v-debut/
With some luck, the story is wrong. But if it’s right, then yeah, the new V models are bullshit.
AestheticsInMotion
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 20:12 |
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We got about 10 years of solid performance cars our of them. That's something
nermal
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 20:13 |
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They didn’t sell enough of the previous models, and they won’t sell enough of the new ones either . The people that want a traditional Caddy sedan are dying off every day because they’re all boomers in their 70s at this point . The younger generation that’s s’posed to be replacing them is just buying Teslas instead.
I’m honestly shocked that Caddy hasn’t gone SUV-only.
Today’s announcement was useless. Harsh, but realistic.
Under_Score
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 20:14 |
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Y’all are mad, but when these are sub-$20,000 with less than 50,000 miles in 2025, they won’t be bad cars at all. In fact, they aren’t bad new.
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MooseKnuckles
> DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!
05/30/2019 at 20:14 |
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Why not make these V Sport and maintain the integrity of the V badge. Not fuck around with everything
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PatBateman
> WilliamsSW
05/30/2019 at 20:17 |
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A buddy of mine is about to be a GM at a MB dealership here in Texas. I always try to buy American vehicles, but if said vehicles that I want are underpowered... Mercedes CPO E63 it is!
Seriously, they should have just said that they were V-Sports. I wouldn’t be this mad.
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DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 20:18 |
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Maybe because they realized the truth that had plagued them for so long
That V-Sport is a tacky ass name and it’s better to just rebrand the whole thing.
404 - User No Longer Available
> MooseKnuckles
05/30/2019 at 20:31 |
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Technically they are just copying Mercedes. I mean look at the 43 and 53 “AMGs”...
KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
05/30/2019 at 20:35 |
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The story is not wrong, unfortunately. I linked t his CNet article in my post. Here’s the official official Press release from Cadillac
Jo77
> Under_Score
05/30/2019 at 21:39 |
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They’re bad when they'll be competing for the same amount of money against competitors packing over a hundred more horsepower.
JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
> DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!
05/30/2019 at 22:55 |
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The Edge ST is “only the beginning of thr future of the ST line”
Look how that's going.
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WilliamsSW
> PatBateman
05/30/2019 at 23:38 |
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I’m with you on the V sport. But calling it V makes me think it’s the top performer which is sad.
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DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!
> JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
05/31/2019 at 00:56 |
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You should be thankful that Cadillac is using sports sedans as a jumping off point and not a V-badged XT4.
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DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!
> MooseKnuckles
05/31/2019 at 00:58 |
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Maybe they finally admitted to themselves that V-Sport is a tacky name and have decided the best course of action is to rebrand the whole thing.
I like the idea of using their racing nomenclature for more extreme models. CT5-V.R would be badass.
I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> MooseKnuckles
05/31/2019 at 10:12 |
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Ah, yes, the integrity of a 15 year old badge...
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MooseKnuckles
> I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
05/31/2019 at 10:29 |
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The V series cars are some of the best driving vehicles. They have built a reputation that’s worth not fucking with.
Arrivederci
> DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!
05/31/2019 at 14:23 |
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Oh that would be tight. Now if they could only get rid of that tacky piece of plastic.