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03/20/2019 at 10:16 • Filed to: None
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The already replaced airbag in my car is being recalled again.
I s this a climate related issue..? A nyone else gotten a notice like this?
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
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03/20/2019 at 10:21 |
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“The bomb aimed at your face may inadvertently kill you with shrapnel instead of pummeling you stupid. Our bad.”
Ash78, voting early and often
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03/20/2019 at 10:25 |
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At this point, they should let you just delete the airbag under a vote of No Confidence.
“Sorry, our German technician
inadvertently installed the airbag upside down. It was his first day in Australia and he has been properly reprimanded.”
E90M3
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03/20/2019 at 10:35 |
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I live in the southern United States, while maybe not as hot as where you are, the weather is similar enough. I haven’t heard of anyone else getting a notice like that.
facw
> E90M3
03/20/2019 at 10:47 |
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I’m pretty sure I’ve read about recalls of early Takata replacement airbags in the US.
For example: 65,000 Toyota, Lexus Vehicles Recalled a Second Time to Avoid Possible Takata Airbag Explosions
Kiltedpadre
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03/20/2019 at 10:52 |
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If I remember correctly from an article I read many were put in knowing full well they were also defective and would need replaced.
The reasoning was that a new defective unit was safer than an older unit that had had time to degrade to the point of potentially coming apart if the airbag deployed.
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E90M3
> facw
03/20/2019 at 10:53 |
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I hadn’t heard anything, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen; I just wasn’t aware.
Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
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03/20/2019 at 10:53 |
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I just got the first one ever for my 2013 outback, taking it in next week for the recall and an oil change and grenade
replacement.
Boxer_4
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03/20/2019 at 10:56 |
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The ammonium nitrate airbag propellant (without the desiccant) degrades due to heat humidity, with those airbags in high heat and humidity areas lasting 6 years before becoming unsafe.
The early replacement airbags still did not include a desiccant, however they were still safer than the original inflators since they were new. They will still have the same problem as the original inflator in 6 years, but it “reset the clock”, giving the manufacturers more time to procure the updated parts, which at the time were in short supply.
This is common with cars that had these Takata inflators early on, such as many Honda. Yours being a 2004, this makes sense. By the time this whole issue was made public, the early cars in high heat and humidity areas were already unsafe.
Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
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03/20/2019 at 11:10 |
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Just more evidence of how completely fucked things are. Takata got away with killing people, got the contract to replace the defectively designed airbags, and got away with replacing them with airbags with the EXACT SAME DEFECTIVE DESIGN.
This is after they already were responsible for multiple severe safety recalls including defective seat belts. Yep. That was Takata.
And guess what? The same fucking people are still doing the same fucking jobs . They did a pre-packaged bankruptcy to evade liability, sold everything to Key Safety Systems (a Chinese-owned company,) who kept everything and just renamed it to “Joyson Safety Systems.”
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> Boxer_4
03/20/2019 at 11:20 |
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Interesting. So hopefully the new units going in should now be “safe” indefinitely?
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> Kiltedpadre
03/20/2019 at 11:23 |
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That makes sense. I assume all the new uninstalled units will end up scrapped anyway.
jimz
> Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
03/20/2019 at 12:04 |
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there literally was no other choice. a “fresh” Takata inflator is safe, and it was critical that the degraded ones out there be taken out of service ASAP. Takata couldn’t just switch propellants and go; it would take time to design, simulate, and validate the inflator canister and airbag with the new propellant. Nor could they just go to TRW or Autoliv and say “start making replacements please;” they also would have to design, tool up, and validate their parts to replace Takata inflators.
“Put new ones in for now and we’ll have to do it again in a few years” was the least bad option for everyone involved.
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Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
> jimz
03/20/2019 at 12:19 |
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“there literally was no other choice.”
Yeah. Because Takata’s literally the only maker of airbag modules.
OH WAIT.
They aren’t.
They were just the cheapest.
“ Takata couldn’t just switch propellants and go”
Except that they did EXACTLY that which is WHY THE AIRBAGS TURN INTO SHRAPNEL AND KILL PEOPLE.
pip bip - choose Corrour
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03/21/2019 at 05:14 |
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my Mitsubishi was like that
faulty Takata, replaced with another faulty Takata, then finally replaced with a Daicell airbag.