Hot take.

"not for canada - australian in disguise" (for-canada) 03/04/2019 at 19:11 • Filed to: None

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I like the Cadillac ELR. In 15-20 years they’ll be great obscure, comfortable, commuters. 

shop-teacher > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/04/2019 at 19:16

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I agree, they look fantastic. 

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/04/2019 at 19:17

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I really like the ELR... but, much the same problem as when they were new, I’m not paying $25k for a fancy used Volt.

wafflesnfalafel > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/04/2019 at 19:18

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I really wish GM had put some  beans in the ELR - it’s a great looking car needing a Ludicrous mode...

For Sweden > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/04/2019 at 19:20

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You have made an enemy for life

not for canada - australian in disguise > For Sweden 03/04/2019 at 19:25

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Doug has been my enemy since he defected from Jelopnic to A*t* tr* d* r

not for canada - australian in disguise > wafflesnfalafel 03/04/2019 at 19:26

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That’s the thing, it was launched at almost the same time the Model S got the crazy performance stuff. Had it been launched at the same time as the Volt was, it would’ve been a hit. Or at least a slightly smaller flop.

Khalbali > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/04/2019 at 19:32

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I’ve always liked as well.

Kiltedpadre > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/04/2019 at 19:36

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They look fantastic, but the closest one to me is $32,00 0 for a 2016. They are so pretty I would give up the utility of the lift back on my Volt for one if they weren’t so pricey.

I can get a 2016 Volt for $18,500. Not only is it cheaper, but the Volt is a Gen 2 so it has more range on pure electric 53 v 35 and burns regular instead of premium.

I did find this 2016 ELR with a crazy low 3403 miles.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=508258660&zip=44308&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D44308%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26endYear%3D2020%26modelCodeList%3DCADELR%26makeCodeList%3DCAD%26searchRadius%3D50&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2020&modelCodeList=CADELR&makeCodeList=CAD&searchRadius=50&makeCode1=CAD&modelCode1=CADELR&clickType=listing

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 03/04/2019 at 20:31

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A quick search shows me that these have surprisingly held their value well. Just get a Volt and throw a Cadillac badge on it and you just raised the resale by 50% at the very least

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 03/04/2019 at 20:41

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I mean... they were $75k originally, so not really. They’re great cars, just not when Volts are $10-15k cheaper .

I really want one. I’ve made a ton of posts about them over the years. But $25-30 k in a used Cadillac also buys a 3rd Gen CTS Vsport, 2nd Gen CTS-V, ATS Coupe + mods , or a CT6.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 03/04/2019 at 20:50

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Looks like I missed their original MSRP. Honestly unless you really want the e conomy you should go for the other, way more appealing (at least to me)  options.

But I get the charm of the ELR, my hospital I frequent has one in the same spot and it always catches my eye.

Ash78, voting early and often > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/04/2019 at 20:50

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Astroturder?

Sorry, I’m bad at Wheel.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 03/04/2019 at 20:58

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It’s a very handsome car and I still want one. It’s just impossible to justify considering its cost. I’m really waiting on ATS-V Coupe prices to come down a bit further.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 03/04/2019 at 21:06

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Mmm the ATS-V. I love how the CTS and ATS-V look. I would be fine with either but I feel like the ATS is more flingable, if that makes sense. Fast as hell but in a smaller package

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 03/04/2019 at 21:22

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Yeah, if I build a house in the next couple years I’ll probably be looking for a commuter. My TA could do it, but I’d like something a bit more modern.

The CTS Vsport is the low key sleeper of the bunch. TTV6 making mid 400hp it a surprisingly light package. The only downsides are the lack of manual transmission (point ATS-V) and a rear diff that isn’t the strongest out there.

The really oddball sleeper is the Buick Regal GS. They’re in the teens cost wise, had a stick option, and with under $1k in mods will make 310whp... or I’ll just buy a Volt because I already have two sports cars.

2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 03/04/2019 at 21:32

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1+ R egal GS

phenotyp > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/04/2019 at 22:56

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If it weren’t for that giant, hideous grille... I occasionally see a couple around town, and the best was going over a bridge at dusk one evening, coming up behind a black one. Those taillights on the black haunches looked so damn good. 

pip bip - choose Corrour > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/05/2019 at 04:56

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if the battery packs haven’t all browned out by then

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 03/05/2019 at 08:24

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Actually the Regal would make a lot of sense, it gets better mileage than the Caddys and like you said can be fun too. Now I had no idea they had a stick so that's news but pretty cool. But I see how everything comes full circle to the Volt/ELR because you already have sports cars and they would make sense economy-wise. Or, you could sell one of your other cars...

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > not for canada - australian in disguise 03/16/2019 at 02:11

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They’re already obscure, comfortable commuters.