Hobby and Social Advice Requested

"Captain of the Enterprise" (justanotherdayinparadise)
03/03/2019 at 14:53 • Filed to: None

Hello Oppo! In the never ending quest to fight my depression and anxiety and to feel better about life my therapist has assigned me some homework that I think you would be able to help me with. Basically, my therapist and I think I’ll feel better if I have more positive experiences and social interaction than what I currently get.

I’m a 24 year old male in college and I’m looking for hobbies and social activities. I was hoping you could share what you do and maybe that would give me some ideas for myself.

Currently I do some photography (which I need to do more of) but I’m running out of ideas of what to shoot. I’m also a gamer but want things that get me out of the house or get me more active or engaged. Basically I stay in my room, sleep and occasionally take photos when I’m not going to class or working.

I like learning new skills and am pretty handy at fixing stuff. I’ve always liked building things since I was a small child with legos. I like restoring things too, I once fixed up an old riding lawnmover and liked doing that.

I used to play trombone and was thinking about maybe picking up a keyboard and trying to learn piano.

It would be great to find something that has some emotional expression in it. I like art but don’t do much outside of photography.

I miss having dogs and was thinking maybe volunteering at a shelter could be good for me.

I also have a very week social life. I have 1 friend that I hang out with in person and have never been in a relationship or anything with anyone. Something that would be a social activity that could help me meet people would probably be a really positive thing for me.

I look forward to anything you could share or advice you could give me!

DISCUSSION (52)

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 15:14

volunteering at a shelter

I’d choose this one if you like animals. Seems like it’d be the most rewarding.

Future Heap Owner > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 15:24

You say you’re a gamer, by which I assume you mean video games. Do you like board and card games? I mean the good ones, like Settlers, Codenames, Dominion, D&D/Pathfinder, Magic the Gathering, etc. Those are a great excuse to hang out and interact with people, and I’ll bet your college has a board game group. A lot of my very good friends I’ve befriended/deepened our friendship via Magic: the Gathering (women, too).

Volunteering at a shelter is a good idea, too, though depending on the shelter and volunteers may not translate as easily into social time.

jimz > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 15:30

I also have a very week social life. I have 1 friend that I han g out with in person and have never been in a relationship or anything with anyone.

welcome to my world :D

Mercedes Streeter > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 15:32

Third-ing the shelter suggestion!

You can also get involved with DIY communities. There are usually communities for everything from programming, to gaming, to motorcycle building, to music. I always find that working on a bike is a good way to forget about the bad things in life.

jminer > Future Heap Owner
03/03/2019 at 15:38

I second this recommendation. Board games and MTG have really had a revival the last couple years and are really fun communities to get involved in.

f86sabre > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 15:38

Working at a shelter would be brilliant. We travel a lot, I like to read, work on the cars and some amature astronomy from time to time. I like live music as well. I also like learning new skills. I have my dive certificate, have a pilot’s license and I would love to take some classes about welding.

Good luck with this.

412GTI > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 15:45

There’s some good websites you can use to find people with common interests whether that be photography, gaming, etc. I think meetup.com is one of them.

Haven’t tried it personally, but have heard good things from others. Best of luck!

Future Heap Owner > jminer
03/03/2019 at 15:51

Yeah, though there are some bad ones (which are usually immediately obvious), good gamer communities are very kind & accepting of whoever.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 15:52

You might enjoy remote control airplanes. It’s not that expensive to get started, you get to build stuff, you can hang out at the flying field and get to know other people, and you get to learn a new skill. If you want to hang out with a younger crowd, try out drone racing. The cost of entry is higher, but once you get goggles and the basic r/c gear, ongoing costs are mainly broken props, sometimes broken frames and motors. The radio gear is fairly well protected. A good place to start is with a Flite Test kit. They are super easy to build and can be repaired with foam board from the local dollar store.

Kinja'd!!!

If you’re into music, an acoustic-electric guitar is a lot more portable than a keyboard. If you’re worried about bothering roommates or neighbors, an electric guitar can be paired with some headphones and playing it will be almost silent. You can also get something decent for very little cash.

Since you’re at a college, there are often classes just for learning the basics if you don’t want to learn it on your own. As for that, you have access to a ton of activities through on-campus clubs and intramural sports. Check with your school for more info. If you’re at UM, go here: https://maizepages.umich.edu/

Another fun (and cheap) outdoor activity is disc golf. I played while I was in college and it was a great way to meet some new people. Most disc golfers are pretty friendly. They also tend to be from the seedier side of life, so if you aren’t tolerant of booze on the fairway, that might not be your thing. There are plenty of courses in your area.

Kinja'd!!!

Mountain biking is also a lot of fun and mountain bikers tend to be a lot friendlier than the roadies. I wish I had as many places to ride as you do in Michigan.

Kinja'd!!!

I’ll tell you the same thing I tell my kids. It all comes down to a willingness to get involved. Try not to put too much stock into any one friend. Lifelong friends are few and far between. Try not to dump a bunch of heartache on anyone and they’ll always be happy to see you. Don’t give them grief for not going out of their way to make sure you’re included. Make them want to include you by being someone they want to be around. Be helpful, not needy. Always be willing to learn and learn how to listen more than you talk - even if what the other person is saying is something you already know. As they say, idle hands are the devil’s tools (not to go all religious on you). They mean that if you keep yourself busy, then you’ll keep yourself out of trouble.

As always, you can reach out to Oppo. We’ve got your back.

nermal > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 15:52

Look into more outdoor activities that have low barriers to entry. Disc golf is one. Camping is another - You can get a full set of camping gear from Walmart or Amazon for ~$100 that is servicable as long as it’s not too cold out.

Mountain biking is very social as well, although it can get expensive if you let it.

Manny05x > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 15:55

Get a motorcycle. Bikers are the best community it has helped me alot with my social anxiety and i have met some great people.

BeaterGT > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 16:24

Check out if there any clubs at your college and join them . Sounds like you’d be interested in something with music or video games. If my roommate/best friend didn’t do this in college, we would have driven each other mad.

O r pick something that is focused on outdoors like hiking/biking , both of which combine well with photography.

Other than that, you won’t know if you like something until you try it so put yourself out there. The worst that could happen is you don’t like it and move on to the next thing. If it helps, frame each interest from most comfortable to least and work your way through them that way. Also, in this day and age not all of your friends need to be physically in your life hence why we ‘ hang out’ here.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 16:25

Does your college have a Formula SAE or Baja team? I did that in school and it was one of the best experiences of my life and I’m still really good friends with a lot of people from the team. Each school implements the program differently, but at my school we have both Baja and Formula and they ran them as a class and a club - so you could get credit if you were an engineering major but also just come volunteer your time if you were interested in cars. We generally loved having non-engineering types on the team, especially business and artistic types (part of SAE competition is making a business case plan for a hypothetical business of limited production of your car as a weekend AutoXer, and artists were good for helping with car layout, painting, graphics, etc.) If your school doesn’t have a program and you are feeling ambitious, maybe consider working with someone in the schools faculty to start an SAE Baja program. It’s a spec motor class and a team can build and compete on a budget of about $10-12 k. The top teams in Formula have budgets exceeding $ 100k .

Also consider joining a professional society at your school - I will admit that I didn’t do this (I was too busy with Formula, though SAE is a professional society and I am a member, but our “ meetings” were working on the car.) But it can be a good way to meet people, and you have a common interest already. I also joined SNAME after I got out of school and worked for a naval architect . I even have a paper credit with them.

My wife and I just adopted a dog, so I would definitely support volunteering for an animal rescue, shelter, etc. Beyond animals, you could volunteer your time at a hospital, soup kitchen, or something like that. Serving others is a great way to serve yourself. Personally, I am an assistant coach for a junior olympic air rifle team. I’m a veteran and I had worked as an armorer and range officer for a while, so this is a good way to put those skills to use. Maybe you have a skill like that you could put to use (coach a sport, volunteer for a youth STEM program, tutor, etc.)

BeaterGT > nermal
03/03/2019 at 16:26

The mountain biking community in general is pretty awesome and supportive too. Everyone is just glad to be out on their bikes.

Monkey B > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 16:37

Get a job this summer at a ny kind of blue collar job, one that puts you in a group that tend to bond from working and helping each other...like landscaping for instance. Having their backs in the work field will make them want to make you feel more included , helping with social situations . Just be you, work hard and don’t force it. They’ll be curious about you as you are them, so pay mind how they approach you and keep it in mind for when you need an ice breaker .

Or, a part time job in a bar/ restaurant . The people in that industry can break any shell. Some can be like family, so look for independent ones. Restaurant may be the better choice because work leads into social situations more frequently...nightly really . People skills is a huge bonus from working in the service industry.

Through my 20's I was always pretty quiet. In my 30's I ended up working the door at a bar part time...nobody that knew me then would ever consider I’d do something like that and I learned a lot from it. I had a pretty thin skin too, something else all those great people at all of the jobs I’ve had helped with. My day job I work alone, so it reminds me of the positive points in working with people.

I suffer from anxiety, I find that fixing things, cleaning things, building things or demolition are all good ways to combat it. For me the tasks can’t be super technical or t edious, but more mindless things that I’m either good at or they be mundane...so long as there is a finished project I can physically see complete. Just yesterday I removed myself from a stressful situation and calmed myself down b y cleaning the crusty shit off the waffle maker...I can control that, but not the thing I was anxious about. All of it gets easier as you get older and learn different life and coping skills. The good thing for you is you live in a time where it can be identified and openly discussed...whereas 25 years ago I was just told to stop being weird or whatever .

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 16:43

Ride-on lawn mower racing.

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
03/03/2019 at 16:47

I was sure that this was what the post would be about when I saw the photo.

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 16:55

As you have a music background, consider social dancing. Something like lin e dancing or contra dancing is available in a lot of places, allows some self- expression and fairly safe social interaction.

When I was your age there was a healthy swing dance social scene (as opposed to ballroom dance type stuff) where I lived , which I really enjoyed. It is also how I met my wife!

As a dog enthusiast, I also support the shelter volunteer idea. Could be better depending on your comfort level, although I would think the social interaction might be pretty limited.

facw > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 17:05

Volunteering at a shelter/rescue would be good. Even if the people suck, there will be dogs. It’s also low risk, if you don’t enjoy it, it’s easy to walk away.

Aside from that, look at https://www.meetup.com/ and see if there are things that sound good to you in your area.

Chuckles > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 17:18

“I’m also a gamer but want things that get me out of the house or get me more active or engaged.”

Pinball. I cannot recommend pinball enough. It’s a similar skillset to gaming, but with a physical aspect that gets you out o f the house and talking to people. I started playing about a year ago, and it’s been the most social thing I’ve done in years. Today I went out to an arcade at a local flea market and spent about 4.5 hours playing pinball with 4 of my friends. I spent maybe $6.

Check out pinballmap.com to see what’s i n your area. There might even be a local league or regular tournaments. I play in a local monthly pinball tournament, and everyone is really nice and it’s a great way to meet people. Plus, I honestly enjoy it more than I enjoyed video games.

Pinball is everywhere. We play in arcades, bowling alleys, skate parks, bars, and 24 hour laundromats. You'd be surprised how much is out there.

A year ago I had no idea how to play pinball, and today I was able to set my first GC (Grand Champion). It felt great.

Kinja'd!!!

Captain of the Enterprise > Future Heap Owner
03/03/2019 at 17:53

I’m never played Magic but could see myself getting into board games.

Captain of the Enterprise > jimz
03/03/2019 at 17:54

Sorry, hopefully it will get better for us.

Captain of the Enterprise > Mercedes Streeter
03/03/2019 at 17:56

I think it would be cool to get a scooter to start with and work on. A DIY community sounds cool. Do you know how I would find one? I’m trying an app called Meetup but there’s not a lot close to me.

Captain of the Enterprise > f86sabre
03/03/2019 at 17:58

Thank you! I’d love to get a pilots license but don’t have any money for that. I think it would be cool to learn welding and I could probably afford a small MIG welder right now.

Captain of the Enterprise > 412GTI
03/03/2019 at 17:58

Thank you! I’m trying meetup now actually!

Captain of the Enterprise > TheRealBicycleBuck
03/03/2019 at 18:07

Thank you so much! I go to U of M Dearborn and live downriver so some of these clubs are great recommendations.

I had an rc plane when I was younger and liked it but never had a big enough field. The drone racing sounds pretty interesting too.

I could try guitar again, I don’t have good grip strength and have a cyst in my right thumb so I’m worried about aggravating it. I like the keyboard idea because it would require gripping and could be silent with headphones.

I really appreciate the advice! I’m really introverted and it’s more difficult to get me to talk actually. I’m usually listening and waiting for something I can actually talk about. But I hear you on not putting stock in one friend. I definitely need more it’s just hard for me to find and connect especially since I don’t want to bother anyone.

Captain of the Enterprise > nermal
03/03/2019 at 18:08

Thank you for the suggestion! I’m worried about getting hurt with mountain biking. I could do some camping though.

Captain of the Enterprise > Manny05x
03/03/2019 at 18:11

Thanks for the advice! I’ve heard that a few times actually . I think it would be a really cool community but after my two accidents I’m really scared of driving just a car. I think I’d be too scared to ride a bike on a public road. I think it w ould be fun to fix bikes and ride them though if no one else was driving.

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 18:12

A friend of mine volunteered at a shelter last summer, and came out of it not being quite so enthusiastic about dogs as she had. Your experience might be different considering you’re not in the N orth-W est T erritories.

I like the idea of fixing up old mowers. Buy them broken and cheap, make them good again, then sell them. I don’t really expect flipping mowers to be super profitable unless you gain enough experience to start taking in paid work , but it’s a thing that could happen.

Captain of the Enterprise > BeaterGT
03/03/2019 at 18:13

Thank you, you’re right I need to be out there trying things to see if I like them and worst case I try something else. I also like the idea of framing them from most to least comfortable. That could help me build confidence to the less comfortable ones.

Captain of the Enterprise > Snuze: Needs another Swede
03/03/2019 at 18:23

Thank you for your advice and your service! I really appreciate both! I was on our FSAE team for my first two years of college and loved it but then I started having mental health issues and was overworking myself and had a suicide attempt. At the time I was taking 3 classes, working 39 hours per week at work and putting in probably 20+ hours on the team and was having a lot of family issues and my depression and anxiety were really bad. I ended up leaving the team and felt so ashamed that I didn’t tell anyone I had to go that I didn’t go back. Eventually I ran into some of them and they were friendly but I tried to rejoin and some of the others didn’t want me to.

They might have all graduated by now so maybe I could join but I don’t feel confident about it and worry about getting too involved again.

I am a public health major now, I was mechanical engineering. I have a big interest in mental health and am looking into joining an org like that on campus.

Captain of the Enterprise > Monkey B
03/03/2019 at 18:26

Thank you! I work as an office assistant at school and it’s helped my social anxiety because I talk and work with a lot of students, coworkers and professors in the office. It’s helped me with interacting more. I also find that fixing, cleaning and building things helps me too.

Captain of the Enterprise > LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com
03/03/2019 at 18:28

Thanks for the advice. I don’t think I can do dancing. I’m so self conscious and afraid of looking bad or stupid that I don’t think I could do it. It really takes my anxiety up.

A lot of people like the shelter idea though.

Captain of the Enterprise > facw
03/03/2019 at 18:29

Thanks for the advice! I think I’m going to talk to a shelter this week.

I’m also on meetup now!

Captain of the Enterprise > Chuckles
03/03/2019 at 18:30

Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll have to check that out! I had no idea there was a community around that.

Captain of the Enterprise > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee
03/03/2019 at 18:32

Thanks for the advice!

Chuckles > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 19:10

It has been coming back in recent years. There are plenty of YouTube channels and Twitch streamers around pinball. It takes a little practice, but it really is a lot of fun.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 19:28

You’re welcome!

R/C planes are a funny thing. It’s good you realize that the size of the field has to match the size of the plane. Smaller planes can be flown in smaller fields, but smaller planes get tossed around by the slightest breeze and it can be hard to find a day that is calm enough to fly. I have a very small R/C helicopter that I’ve tried flying outside many times, but even a day that seems calm can have a lot of air movement. I’ve nearly lost it a few times when I raised it above the fence line and discovered that there was a steady breeze just a few feet above the fence. Bigger is easier to fly, but does require a much bigger space.

Electric guitars don’t require nearly as much grip strength as an acoustic and require a fairly light touch with a pick. Don’t rule them out!

Imagine a world where nobody wanted to be a bother. Nobody would ever talk and we’d die out as a species because nobody would ever get close enough to reproduce! I’m fairly introverted myself, but I learned a few tricks that really help .

Think about guys like Billy Mays (of OxiClean fame) or Robin Williams or just about any actor or comedian. They put on a persona when it’s time to perform. Seriously, these guys don’t walk around hawking their wares or trying to be funny all the time. They prepare for their performance, put on their performing persona, then go out and sell or entertain. Create a persona that you can use in public. It’s a guy that doesn’t have a problem meeting people, always has something to say, and is always friendly. Take the time to prepare for public appearances. You don’t have to have a speech prepared, but you do need to have some solid conversation starters ( https://conversationstartersworld.com/250-conversation-starters/ ). It also helps to understand the rules and art of conversation. As David Finch says, learn the game and play it.

Who’s David Finch? He’s a guy who discovered he has Asperger’s Syndrome years after he got married. I first heard him on NPR (scroll down to act two for a transcript: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/458/transcript )

Conversation is a difficult thing for folks with Asperger’s. David learned the art of conversation by listening to Howard Stern. Not the best example for conversation topics , but Stern is really good at keeping a conversation moving. Adaptability is another thing David talks about. Take a look, you might like him.

I found that I’m not the best conversationalist, but I work on it every day. It helps that my job changed and now I’m surrounded by people all day long. If I can’t hold a conversation, then I’m not useful on the job and I’ll lose it.

Good luck. Kee p learning and growing. Keep practicing. Make lots of acquaintances. Some will turn into friends. A few will turn into close friends.

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 19:40

Second the dancing my dude. I was exactly in your position a few years ago. A girl I was trying to pursue invited me to her dance studio for a party. I was terrified. I’m super introverted as I'm guessing you are too. I I’m not exaggerating when I say it was life changing. It’s super confidence building and dance studios that do lessons are very welcoming and you can even take classes with your fellow newbies. Trust me when I say you won’t be the worst for long. After a month you will be able to dance to anything. Oh and plot twist, the girl that invited me 4 years ago, is now sitting on the couch next to me with both engagement and wedding rings I picked out on her finger. You can do it!

Captain of the Enterprise > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By
03/03/2019 at 20:02

Thank you, I’m super terrified of it and am really super introverted but I’ll put it on the list.

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 20:08

I highly recomm end Arthur Murray if you have on nearby, great teachers and very welcoming to new people. They always have new people joining so you will be in great company. Its a very welcoming, no pressure, fun environment. Best of luck!

Longtime Lurker > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 21:17

If the public roads worry you, a dirt bike might be a option you can see if there’s any offroad trails near where you live, or a motocross track or club. I f there’s a road-race t rack near you a cheap sportbike could be a fun project. Check with your local go-cart tracks and see if any offer scooter racing.

LastFirstMI is my name > Captain of the Enterprise
03/03/2019 at 23:46

Since you mentioned an interest in public health, a way to combine volunteering, interacting with others, and learning new skills would be volunteering with the Red Cross. They will train you, and there are opportunities for first aid teams, disaster response, etc... Like working at an animal shelter or soup kitchen or whatever, any act of service to others will benefit you as much as those you are serving. I am also pretty introverted, and I learned a lot volunteering for the Red Cross in college. Helping others is very healing, and is a great way to put life in perspective. Good luck and best wishes on your journey!

Khalbali > Captain of the Enterprise
03/04/2019 at 07:20

I second the board game idea, libraries often have board game nights and I’m sure game stores do too, stuff like settlers can be really fun. Another idea I'm trying to get my wife to do to indulge her artistic side is furniture flipping, just sanding and painting/finishing old furniture and swap knobs or whatever. I work Saturdays at a thrift shop and we delivered a bunch of stuff yesterday to a lady with a 2 car garage full of furniture that she slowly works through over the year.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Captain of the Enterprise
03/06/2019 at 11:20

Thank you for your support.

FSAE can be a huge time suck. I also had a somewhat similar experience - my first year I just didn’t mesh well with the team, so I quit, took the next year off, and then went back my senior year and loved it. I tried to help out the team after I graduated, and the first year was still great and I had fun helping, but I still knew a lot of people on the team. The year after that I just didn’t mesh well with the new team so I stopped going .

I read a few of the replies and your responses. There’s lots of good advice here and it sounds like you’ re really receptive. Let us know what things you try, what activities you like, etc.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > TheRealBicycleBuck
03/06/2019 at 11:26

Wow, I read that TAL transcript and that’s amazing! I actually read both stories, both were fantastic, but David is something else. Really interesting stuff. Thank you for sharing!

TheRealBicycleBuck > Snuze: Needs another Swede
03/06/2019 at 12:12

I’m g lad to share!

I heard the TAL episode when it aired. Our next-door neighbor’s daughter has a pretty severe case of Asperger’s and when they moved in, the dad came over to talk to me about it. His daughter has disappeared several times because she doesn’t have good judgement skills and can’t pick up on social cues. She was found safe each time, but it’s something he really worries about. My first interaction with her was when she was maybe 10 years old. She walked into my garage to tell me that my approach to replacing my brake pads was wrong and I should do it a different way. :/

Asperger’s is an interesting syndrome. I think it’s more prevalent than we realize.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > TheRealBicycleBuck
03/06/2019 at 12:59

As far as I know I’ve never spent time with anyone with Aspergers. But from everything I’ve read it sounds fascinating. A weird word choice, I know, but I use that because it’s both so relatable an so alien at the same time. I think we all have little “moments of Aspergers” - a situation where conversation has been exceptionally difficult (sometimes I get riffing on something interesting and the other perosn or people start changing the subject but I feel like I have more to say), or where we feign empathy (someone complaining about something that you can tell is important to them, but you really couldn’t care less, but you fake it any ways), etc. But at the same time I think it’s hard to begin to even imagine what it would like to live that existence all of the time.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Snuze: Needs another Swede
03/06/2019 at 13:20

If you like that kind of stuff, take a look at the book, “The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat: And Other Clinical Tales.” It’s all about strange afflic tions caused by brain injuries. It’s absolutely fascinating.

I also heard a discussion on magnetic resonance stimulation and a study on how stimulating a portion of the brain enabled certain people to catch social cues that they normally missed (like why people were crying during an emotional scene in a movie). I remember one lady discussing how it affected her deeply and she would do just about anything to undergo the procedure again just so she could feel what it was like to experience emotions. I can’t seem to find the reference right now, but it was amazing to hear.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > TheRealBicycleBuck
03/06/2019 at 13:31

I will, thanks again for the suggestion!

Captain of the Enterprise > Snuze: Needs another Swede
03/06/2019 at 13:37

Thank you! I’ll try to keep everyone here updated! Everyone’s been really nice and giving good advice so far.

Manny05x > Captain of the Enterprise
03/06/2019 at 13:38

Maybe dirt bikes can work for you off course depending where you live.