![]() 02/16/2019 at 11:15 • Filed to: None | ![]() | ![]() |
I need some of you tire experts to help me find a good set of tires. I have some BMW DS1 235/40 r17 wheels that I plan to put on my Z3 once the winters come off. Now I just need to find a solid set of summer tires.
I had Michelin Pilot Sports on the stock wheels when I bought the car and they were great, but unfortunately it doesn’t look like Michelin makes a tire in that size.
What do you guys recommend?
Picture of a nice S450 I sold last week for your time
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33" all terrains... falken wildpeaks are decent
in exchange for my advice, please send me a 2019
S550
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No problem, I’ll just need you to wire me all the monies please first
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Looks like basically the only tires available in that size are track/autocross tires, and a couple mediocre regular summer tires like the Sumitomo HTR Z III. Don’t get those, I had a set many years ago and they refuse to stay round. What year/engine is your Z3? There might be another size that has more options and will work.
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Its a 2000 Z3 2.8 Coupe. The wheels are from an E36 M3 though. The two options I saw that seemed decent were Yokohama S drive and varying Federal SS595 tires.
I have blizzaks for the winter months so I definitely want a summer tire
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235/40 R17 is a horrible tire size as far as availability goes. I’d suggest going slightly wider or narrower, while keeping the same approximate overall diameter ( there’s plenty of t ire size comparison tools available online to help with that ), and picking up some Michelin PS4Ss.
Alternatively, if you don’t see a lot of rain during summer, you can consider Yokohama Advan Neova AD08Rs. They’re brilliant in the dry, okay-ish in the wet and dangerous in case of standing water.
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Get the Federals.
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T he stock tire sizes for both your car and the E36 M3 are staggered, 225/45-17 and 245/40-17. There are way more options available in those sizes. Assuming your set of M3 wheels is a 4-corner staggered set, I’d go with those sizes.
On the cheap end of things, you have all the tires in this comparison . General G-MAX RS, Falken FK510, Firestone Indy 500 & BFG Comp-2. I have the Indy 500s which have the highest dry grip in that bunch but are weakest in the wet. I chose them because the General & Falken weren’t out yet when I was buying.
Had they been available, I may have gone for the FK510s instead as they’re nearly up to the Indy 500s in the dry but are much better in the wet, and they’re more civilized feeling to live with day to day. The Generals are a little off the pace in the dry but similar to the FK510 in the wet.
If you want to spend more, there’s the Continental EC Sport & Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. The Contis aren’t too expensive relative to the cheaper options but the Michelins are rather pricey. Both have a good dry/wet balance like the FK510, and higher limits overall, with the Michelin offering a bigger bump up in performance. The Contis are kind of a half-step between the FK510 and 4S.
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Yoko S. Drives and Advans are available in P235/40R17. The wheels are 7.5's, so I have no damn idea why BMW would stagger 245 out back - that’s just asking for trouble. The Neova’s are pretty good in anything but wet, so I’d go S.Drive if you need rain.
If you want to maintain some comfort, go 225/45R17. Do NOT buy Potenza RE050's no matter how fucking cheap they are. They. Are. SHIT.
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car first, money later
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https://bimmertips.com/oem-bmw-e36-m3-wheel-opitions-specs/
Its the top one there, afaik its a square setup not staggered
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Ok then as long as they’ll fit in front I would run 245/40-17 square, with the same recommendations as far as which tires. Which to summarize, is:
Cheap best in dry (of the cheap ones) : Indy 500
Cheap all-rounder: FK510
More expensive all-rounder: EC Sport
Most $$$: Pilot 4S
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I’m still dizzy from trying to parse M3 wheels on a Z3 with a Mercedes body kit... the pic really threw my off my game!
Otherwise, I would have suggested going to this website
https://tiresize.com/comparison/
and looking for alternate size combinations with approx. the same diameter and width to fit your rims. Depending on how mild/wild you want, you can go slightly wider or narrower, but Textured Soy Protein totally nailed the best options. No idea how something as smooth as TSP can drive a car, but it knows it’s tires.
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Awesome I appreciate it. Sounds like that’s the way to go
![]() 02/17/2019 at 12:20 |
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So I’m a bit confused. I think these would be some perfect tires for my budget and goals, but I’m not sure if they’ll fit. They’re 235/40r17 but it says they are meant for wheels 8-9.5” wide. I think my wheels are 7.5 so I guess they won’t fit? The link to the tires is below.
https://simpletire.com/federal-235-40r17-95cl7afe-tires
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That’s what i want to go with but now I’m not sure if they’ll fit.
According to the specs my wheels are 7.5” wide, but the federals say they’re meant for 8-9.5 despite being 235/40r17 just like the stock tires
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From what I know of those, they’re more of an autocross style tire. I’ve gone that route on a street car, in my case an NB Miata with Hankook RS2s. They were grippy as hell but also somewhat punishing of a ride. Is it a street car or an autocross car? Do you just like those because they're cheap?
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It’s just a street car and occasional track car once I get the coilovers. The ride is already pretty punishing but I just really want a grippy as hell tire because I drive hard a lot. It seems like there are a couple tiers of them, but the reviews on them sound decent for a daily driver.
I’m just not sure if they’ll fit