[POLITICS]: Governor--for now--Northam of Virginia

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
02/04/2019 at 10:05 • Filed to: None

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As a high school teacher, I presided over publication of the school’s yearbook for five years. This would never have been printed on my watch. How did this ever get printed? Why isn’t EVMS being excoriated right now along with Governor Northam?

DISCUSSION (100)

jimz > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 10:08

was your school in Hicksville?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 10:13

[stupid music video comes to mind - “It Wasn’t Me”]

How can he now say it wasn’t him in the photo?

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 10:14

Democrats don’t get a break do they?

Maybe resigning and giving the Governorship to the Lieutenant would be a bold move.... But it might fall under “See, I do have black friends " if he backtracks it like he did with the claim.

someassemblyrequired > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 10:14

What can I say? Virginia’s got issues.

If Northam is smart he’ll just pull a Steve King and hunker down. Trump will do something dumb tomorrow, this will fall out of the news and he’ll survive his term.

DipodomysDeserti > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 10:17

It’s almost like whole portions of our society accept racism. Weird.

But remember guys, he was just a twenty five year old kid. He can’t be expected to takenresponsibikity for his actions. As long as he didn’t actually light any crosses on fire, we (other white guys) should forgive him. And if you’re not white, he’s a Democrat which means he’s really on your side (trust us). Don’t forget the Dems gave you a black president once.

Don’t @ me with the “we all did dumb stuff as kids” bs. If you were acting like a kid at twenty five, then you were an asshole, sorry.

For Sweden > Spanfeller is a twat
02/04/2019 at 10:18

The Lt. Go vernor has a 15 year old rape allegation against him so...

Spanfeller is a twat > For Sweden
02/04/2019 at 10:21

Democrats don’t get a break do they?

Yep, Same source as the blackface pictures of Northam.

facw > DipodomysDeserti
02/04/2019 at 10:25

It’s possible that he was an asshole, but isn’t now. Of course his recent actions suggest to me that he’s probably an asshole now as well.

Sovande > Spanfeller is a twat
02/04/2019 at 10:25

Don't get a break? Why do they deserve a break? They need to stop pushing forward complete morons.

Sovande > facw
02/04/2019 at 10:27

Too late. You don't get a pass on overt racism because it was a while ago.

facw > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
02/04/2019 at 10:27

Because he remembers another time he wore blackface so vividly, but doesn’t remember the photo, so obviously it never happened? And in any event, he would never put on his blackface that darkly, because it’s too hard to clean off.

Such a strange and weak defense from the “Coonman”

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 10:30

I did a lot of dumb shit when I was younger. But even being 16 years old in 1984. I knew better than to put on blackface then.

Was it more common then? Yep - it was. Was it still just as racist in 1984 as today? Also yep.

Spanfeller is a twat > Sovande
02/04/2019 at 10:31

I agree that they need to up their standards. But lets not forget the elephant in the room.

facw > Sovande
02/04/2019 at 10:33

People do change, and its probably healthy to let those who have changed for the better do so instead of penalizing them forever for past failures. That doesn’t mean we need to give them the benefit of the doubt, we can judge them on their actions.

If you insist that someone be treated according to their worst behavior, then there will never be an incentive for them to improve. But again, they do actually have to improve themselves, there’s no reason to forgive old offenses just because they are old.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 10:34

“It was me, I am sorry I was young (this was 1984, not 1954) ....Wait no it wasn’t me...and guess what I’m staying. Nothing to see here, move along”

What a complete shitshow.

WilliamsSW > Spanfeller is a twat
02/04/2019 at 10:38

It can’t be an elephant. It’s orange.

But this isn’t really the time for “ whataboutitis”. It’s the only defense the right has for a lot of their crap, so it needs to be taken away.

DipodomysDeserti > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
02/04/2019 at 10:39

His actual excuse was that he had dressed up in blackface a different time, and that he got confused and though that time was this time.

You can’t make this shit up.

DipodomysDeserti > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
02/04/2019 at 10:42

And don’t forget the “I did dress up in blackface once, but no one took a photo.”

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > facw
02/04/2019 at 10:49

What an idiot.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti
02/04/2019 at 10:49

Ha!

Sovande > Spanfeller is a twat
02/04/2019 at 10:51

The real shame about the Democratic party is that no matter the scandal, no matter the screw up, the default excuse is “well [insert Republican leader here] did it first, so it’s okay if we do it.” It’s childish, ineffective, pathetic and it cost Clinton the election to the current dipshit. Maybe these people should act like adults, admit mistakes and move forward instead of constantly reminding the American voter that they were the second group to make a big mistake and so that makes it okay.

It’s fucking exhausting. I swear to Christ Northam would have been chased out of town on a rail if he had an R after his name. Since he is a Democrat the game is to pretend his actions at 25 are in some way not relevant. This is the same group of people who (rightly) tried to stop Kavanaugh based on an unsubstantiated claim about an incident that occurred when he was still in high school.

He made a dumb mistake years ago that should preclude him from continuing in his current role as governor.

Sovande > facw
02/04/2019 at 10:58

Nope. He has overstayed his welcome. Drop him like a hot rock. I don’t care what he hasn’t done in the past 35 years, when he was 25 he dressed in racist clothing and then had the photo included in the medical school y earbook. That’s not the behavior I want from the governor of my state. I voted for this asshole.

Why does everyone want people to be allowed to redeem themselves? He did a dumb fucking thing, it came back and bit him in the ass and now he has to face the consequences. It's not as though he is going to be destitute. This state and this country can do better than this asshole.

DipodomysDeserti > Sovande
02/04/2019 at 10:58

A Republican would have been run out of town, unless that town was in Iowa.

DipodomysDeserti > someassemblyrequired
02/04/2019 at 10:59

T he difference is that Steve King was elected because he’s a white suprema cist.

Sovande > facw
02/04/2019 at 11:00

He's still an asshole. Know how I know? I saw pictures of him in blackface, then I listened to him say he was in the picture, then I listened to him say he wasn’t, but that he had worn blackface another time. So yeah. He’s an asshole.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz
02/04/2019 at 11:01

I don’t take your meaning.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > DipodomysDeserti
02/04/2019 at 11:02

And why aren’t we asking about the school that printed this in their yearbook?

facw > Sovande
02/04/2019 at 11:04

Yep. I’m not going to argue with that. If he wanted to advance the argument that he was a bad person then, has come to realize it, and finds his past behavior contemptible, this weird thing he’s doing now is not way to accomplish that, and clearly shows that the current him is garbage too.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > DipodomysDeserti
02/04/2019 at 11:05

Or some states that end with “A”.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sovande
02/04/2019 at 11:06

Kavanaugh: too bad he behaved so badly in high school, ain’t it? A cautionary tale. I might (not) run for mayor, but national office? These people have these HORRIBLE pasts and think they’ve risen above them.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW
02/04/2019 at 11:07

You know what? I hadn’t even thought about Trump in this. Honestly. Just one more marker of a civilization that is largely giving up on feigning civility.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > facw
02/04/2019 at 11:09

(You made me laugh with that one.)

someassemblyrequired > DipodomysDeserti
02/04/2019 at 11:09

If GOP racists like King aren’t forced out , why should Dems deal with Northam ? The GOP has no moral high ground in this one.

Sovande > facw
02/04/2019 at 11:10

He can see his cash cow walking away and he doesn’t like how that looks. They are all criminals. Each and every one of these motherfuckers is out to line their pockets. I don’t care which side of the aisle they sit on, they all want to suckle the corporate teat and fuck over the people who work for a living. Northam is a fucking neurologist for fuck’s sake. He was in college to be a brain surgeon when he took those pics. Fuck him and the goat he rode in on.

jimz > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:10

I’m just saying I’m pretty sure you’re far more enlightened than whatever teachers he had in Virginia in the ‘8 0s. You’d have put the kibosh on it, they probably thought it was funny.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > facw
02/04/2019 at 11:11

Optimism: I like it. People can change. It’s called redemption . But that’s an ugly thing in his past and some good, honest, courageous talk would be good, but there’s no room for such in politics.

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:12

Me either, but that’s who TAE was referring to.

Sovande got it right - I can not stand the “ whataboutitis” on either side. It’s destructive.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sovande
02/04/2019 at 11:14

Well, people need to be able to redeem themselves for our society to be civil. But we also are reasonable to set a higher bar for those who represent us. As I say above, politics is no place for good, honest, courageous talk. And Governor Northam issued too little of any of those at the outset of this and has disqualified himself. Kavanaugh? Maybe, maybe not, but he and his family certainly have paid a price for his bad behavior in high school.

Spanfeller is a twat > Sovande
02/04/2019 at 11:14

I believe he should probably resign, and I’m not trying to excuse democrats. I’m just saying that the standards should fair and expected of both parties. Lets not forget about the elephant in the room because in many cases that elephant gets excused over almost anything, and their followers will probably use this as cannon fodder.

nermal > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:14

I’m enjoying the fact that he ran on a campaign of “Vote for me ‘cuz the other guy is a RACIST!!!11!!1!!!~!!!1!!”

That said, the Ds started the trend of bringing up shit in yearbooks from 30 yrs ago (Kavanaugh, Roy Moore), so it’s equally amusing to see it thrown back in their face . Even better that Northam is standing firm in not resigning, thus creating a yuuuge divide among the Ds.

Sovande > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:15

It’s both too bad he personally acted like an entitled fuckbag, and it’s too bad that he was considered by the Republican Party to be the most viable choice. I don’t care if the allegations were true (they were) or not. As soon as they were made there should have been a Plan B which would have involved a brief apology and an assurance that the main goal was to get a good person on the bench, not the fuckery that the American public had to endure while an accused rapist was sworn in to the Supreme Court.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW
02/04/2019 at 11:16

I did a lot of dumb shit when I was younger.

I cringe to think of some of the things I did when I was young. As a result of those things, I have decided not to run for governor, and I am removing myself from consideration to occupy RBG ’s SCOTUS seat in the eventuality that it becomes vacant.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > DipodomysDeserti
02/04/2019 at 11:16

*shakes head*

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz
02/04/2019 at 11:17

I get it. I’m still shaking my head. That they thought it was funny is the real scandal and nobody’s thought of it.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW
02/04/2019 at 11:18

I think there are constructive ways to raise inconsistencies and point out irony so long as you don’t reuse media buzz phrases.

For Sweden > DipodomysDeserti
02/04/2019 at 11:19

Should we punch him though?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > nermal
02/04/2019 at 11:20

And Ds are responsible for the first Nuclear option in judicial appointments, aren’t they?

Ironic, indeed. Civilization is less and less feigning civility.

Sovande > Spanfeller is a twat
02/04/2019 at 11:20

By saying “I’m just saying that the standards should be fair and expected of both parties” you are setting up someone for an excuse. Because if the standards are not upheld against the Republicans than the Dems will say “S ee? They did it, so we did too.” Maybe these people should act like grown-ups whose actions have consequences. And people (Democrats) should stop falling back on the argument that they aren’t the biggest offender in the room as long as Trump is in office. It may be true, but it isn’t exactly a solid argument. Saying your guy is better because he is “just” an accused racist who has reformed, does not make him better than the accused rapist who says the same thing .

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:22

There are. But the left needs to rise above, not sink to meet.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sovande
02/04/2019 at 11:25

f***bag is an overtly misogynist term .

The American legal system isn’t supposed to operate and draw conclusions on claims that cannot be substantiated. I’ve had this explained repeatedly — and patiently — by a successful defense attorney who is active on Oppo.

Like I’ve said: Brett Kavanaugh’s behavior have brought disgrace upon himself and his family and will mark his entire tenure on the SCOTUS bench, just as did the allegations against Clarence Thomas mark his.

Don’t wanna be no scrub and run for prominent office.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:28

Devil’s advocate: maybe the person in charge of printing this was pissed off about this racist photo and knew that it would eventually come back to bite these two in the ass...

WiscoProud > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:29

Just a reminder, the movie “Soul Man” which is about a guy dressing in black face to qualify for a black-only scholarship came out in 1986. It was racist, but it was also common.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Man_(film)

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:30

Luckily I have zero desire for any role in public life like that.

And I’m certainly em barrassed by some of the things I did back then. Yet none of those dumb things were as shitty as Northampton or Kavanaughs behavior.

Spanfeller is a twat > Sovande
02/04/2019 at 11:31

I’m not saying anyone should be excused. I’m saying that the standards need to be uniformly applied and raised or else you end up with a fucking lunatic in office because one side is willing to let a personal flaw pass because the candidate otherwise has the same politics as them . Democrats and Republicans should be outraged about Northam, but then again, Democrats and Republicans should be a lot more outraged about many more politicians too.

Sovande > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:35

I thought a fuckbag was a used condom, not an “overtly misogynist term.” Not every term is anti-woman.

The American legal system is a joke. Caring about the views of those who exploit it for their gain would be a real exercise in time wasting. We all know how it works. If you are white and well-to-do, have at it. If not, buckle up, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.

I wish Kavanaugh could have just kept his disgrace as a family thing instead of subjecting the rest of the nation to his actions.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > nermal
02/04/2019 at 11:35

It sucks that the Gadsden’s flag has been co-opted enough by racist assholes that now it’s associated so closely with the Confederate (battle) flag.

I’m sure plenty of Native Americans were pissed when they saw pictures of Hitler using the swastika, too... but there’s really no going back.

nermal > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:37

Yep. Just like how the Rs blocked everything Obama tried to do when they could, and now the Ds are doing the same to Trump.

jimz > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:41

my (boomer) parents grew up during the white flight from cities. some of the shit my dad and uncles say to this day still make me cringe.

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:50

Nah, Rs are responsible for nothing. Always the victim, always the boostrapping patriots, always the freedom-lovers, the real good Americans, those Rs.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > WiscoProud
02/04/2019 at 11:54

Just did a little reading (never saw the movie) . Interesting comment from the lead actor - “ I’m shocked at how truly harmless that movie is, and how the anti-racial message involved in it is so prevalent... This isn’t a movie about blackface. This isn’t a movie that should be considered irresponsible on any level... It’s very funny... It made me much more aware of the issues we face on a day-to-day basis, and it made me much more sensitive to racism... It’s an innocent movie, it’s got innocent messages, and it’s got some very, very deep messages. And I think the people that haven’t seen it that judge it are horribly wrong. I think that’s more offensive than anything. Judging something you haven’t seen is the worst thing you can really do. In fact, Soul Man sort of represents that all the way through. I think it’s a really innocent movie with a very powerful message, and it’s an important part of my life. I’m proud of the performance, and I’m proud of the people that were in it. A lot of people ask me today, “Could that movie be made today?”... Robert Downey Jr. just did it in Tropic Thunder!... The difference is that he was just playing a character in Tropic Thunder, and there was no magnifying glass on racism, which is so prevalent in our country. I guess that’s what makes people more uncomfortable about Soul Man. But I think it’s an important movie.”

Fun fact - the co-stars got married after the movie.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 11:59

How did this ever get printed?

Because 1984.

ttyymmnn > WilliamsSW
02/04/2019 at 12:00

I was in HS in VA 1984. I think you also have to add Virginia into the equation.

HammerheadFistpunch > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 12:02

I’m just waiting for future politicians to get shitcanned for that stupid tend in my demographic of guys dressing up as female cheerleaders for halloween and other events.

I mean, even then I thought the people doing it were stupid... but kids are stupid. Was what he did racists? Y es. Should he have known better? Yes. Is he being a total ass about it? Yes. Is he racists and pursuing racist policies? This is really the important question isn’t it. Because if the answer is no that this whole thing represents a serious and dangerous trend we HAVE to avoid .

With exception of people who’ve committed serious crime, p eople need to be judged on who they are, not who they were. I’ m not who I was 15 years ago, and I think being judged on my current character as that person 15 years ago would be wrong.

Is he racist? I guess it depends on if he does racists things isn’t it, not did. A person can absolutely change.

Now I do think he’s an idiot for doing it and totally clueless about how to approach an apology for it if he is truly a different person...its not showing a real change of heart...but he needs to be judged on his actions today.

I think he should be criticised for it, he needs the sharp reproval it seems, but a call to resign? This has got to stop.

TLDR: W e can’t allow the trial of public opinion to condemn a person based on who they were. Who they were can and should inform public perception of who they might be, but who they might be is NOT who they chose to be.

DipodomysDeserti > For Sweden
02/04/2019 at 12:05

If he got punched more when he was sixteen, he’d probably have learned to stop being an asshole by the time he was twenty five. Or at least hide it better.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 12:05

Because in 1984 VA, this was entirely okay among privileged whites. Note that he also went to VMI.

ttyymmnn > HammerheadFistpunch
02/04/2019 at 12:06

Hear hear.

For Sweden > DipodomysDeserti
02/04/2019 at 12:08

Is there a statut e of limitations for punching fascists?

DipodomysDeserti > someassemblyrequired
02/04/2019 at 12:11

I think it just goes to show that both these parties are filled with scumbags.

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn
02/04/2019 at 12:13

Very true - I went to school in Illinois, and I’m half tempted to dig out my yearbook to see if anyone was in black face in it (its certainly possible). Le t’s keep in mind that this was his medical school, not HS, though.

someassemblyrequired > DipodomysDeserti
02/04/2019 at 12:20

Most people have #$@$ed up bad several times in life and know it. As a result they stay out of major political races and don’t get involved.

Only the truly insane or stupid think they have nothing to hide, hence we have ceded politics to the wingnuts and nutbars on both sides.

ttyymmnn > WilliamsSW
02/04/2019 at 12:21

I know, he was 25. I still believe that you have to look at his record in the last 35 years. If there is a pattern of racism in that time, by all means, out the door. But if not, then that’s another story. His voting record is pretty darned liberal.

That said, how he handled it is an embarrassment. Step up, admit it, demonstrate you’re a changed man, move on. I tell my boys, everybody makes mistakes. How we handle them is the measure of the man,

DipodomysDeserti > For Sweden
02/04/2019 at 12:24

Nope

Kinja'd!!!

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn
02/04/2019 at 12:25

Your 2nd paragraph is why he needs to go, IMHO. He handled it poorly, and showed a lack of character.

For Sweden > DipodomysDeserti
02/04/2019 at 12:30

[Googles flights to Richmond]

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW
02/04/2019 at 13:14

Certainly, that would be your philosophy and mine.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
02/04/2019 at 13:29

I am in general disbelief about the entire thing.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
02/04/2019 at 13:31

The motivations were different for Governor Northam, I think it’s safe to say.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 13:37

Uh, yeah.

facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 14:06

Why isn’t EVMS being excoriated right now along with Governor Northam?

Hey look at that:

Northam’s med school banned yearbooks in 2013 — after students posed in Confederate garb

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > nermal
02/04/2019 at 14:09

The press portrayed the Rs as being ruthless about blocking BHO.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz
02/04/2019 at 14:10

My dad, too, though Parkinson’s has turned him quite sweet and gentle.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > fintail
02/04/2019 at 14:10

Real good Americans. I like that.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 14:17

I can’t wait for decades from now when people dig up shit people in office did when they were young in the 2010s (prank channels, react videos, influencers, ect.) ¯\_()_/¯

All of this is stupid.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
02/04/2019 at 14:25

Why isn’t anyone taking EVMS to task for it? You can bet whoever’s in charge is crossing fingers and keeping a low profile.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 14:31

Because you always sue the person with the most money. It’s why hackers tend not to write malware for Macs. There’s no profit in it. In our hyper political tribal mentality, going after the politician gets better headlines.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch
02/04/2019 at 14:34

In other words, redemption needs to be a thing. I agree wholeheartedly. And wouldn’t you expect me to?

But there are a couple of problems. Governor Northam has picked a career field for himself where honest, courageous conversations simply cannot be had. I mean, he could have tried that approach, but he did not.

I keep saying in this space that Justice Kavanaugh got his appointment, but his past behavior and choices exacted a terrible price upon his reputation and upon his family. People in positions such as that need to look long and hard at their past and think about the cost of those things coming out. When you submit your name for POTUS or SCOTUS or governor, you invite that inspection and that trial of public opinion because politics.

And the Covington story? Wouldn’t have happened if those kids hadn’t decided to display MAGA hats that morning. Were they wrong to wear those hats? No. Do they regret wearing them? I can’t say, but I would be regretting it if I were that kid. You just can’t innocently claim that it’s only a hat.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
02/04/2019 at 14:34

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/1832333982

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 14:41

We keep expecting perfect candidates when there are none. There are no perfect human beings. How one of the most imperfect humans ever got elected POTUS is...well, I was going with “mind boggling,” but nothing boggles the mind when nothing is normal any more. I would wager that Kavanaugh and Northam never thought about those events in their past because they were long forgotten. Forgotten because those actions were acceptable back then. It’s hard to know that you are doing anything wrong when nobody tells you it’s wrong, or when everybody around you (in your sheltered, privileged existence) are doing the same thing.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
02/04/2019 at 15:23

I thought it was a VMI yearbook, initially. Do you remember Ed Jones, the guy who owned the other half of D&G’s duplex back in the day? He was a VMI graduate.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > facw
02/04/2019 at 15:27

Great! Only took them 29 years.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
02/04/2019 at 15:28

Stupid is doing stupid stuff. It’s always been stupid. Then running for prominent national political office knowing that you did stupid stuff. Doing stupid stuff can have severe implications.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
02/04/2019 at 15:30

Well, they went after Nana... I take your point. It’s all about the media. But it’s fake to claim that only the liberal media does this when the conservative media does as well. The obvious difference must be that the liberals are making more money and selling more commercials with their formula.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
02/04/2019 at 15:33

Yeah, well, Ooops! I can remember those days of my own with distinct clarity and some of them make me cringe. I have zero sympathy for these guys.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 15:36

I remember. Terry Davis was a VMI grad, though his son didn’t finish his first year. He did, however, make it through the Rat Line, which was as terrible as it sounds.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 15:39

“Those that travel the high road of humility in Washington are not bothered by heavy traffic. ”

Sen. Alan Simpson ( R-WY) while eulogizing Pres. George H.W. Bush

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 15:42

Who’s to say they aren’t cringing? As far as we know, Bret Kavanaugh did not go on to live a life of debauchery, and Ralph Northam went on to a successful career in medicine and a decidedly liberal voting record in VA government . They were probably hoping that these things wouldn’t find the light of day. Before the Internet, that was possible. But no more.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sovande
02/04/2019 at 15:47

Perhaps it is. But there are more colorful and less vulgar word choices.

I wish Kavanaugh could have just kept his disgrace as a family thing instead of subjecting the rest of the nation to his actions.

On the one hand, I’d say he attempted to do just that. On the other hand, he may have sort of blotted his privileged , advantaged youth from his mind. Either way, I wish he’d made other choices as a young man and or chosen a different line of work.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
02/04/2019 at 15:53

Junior did? Is he still alive?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
02/04/2019 at 15:57

Northam would have been fine if he’d just retired as a wealthy doctor.

Look at Al Franken. The picture I saw of him with the sleeping colleague in the armored vest didn’t strike me as all that bad. But he hit the road. If you ask me, Franken set the bar with his move.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/04/2019 at 16:23

I get a Christmas card from him every year. Haven’t spoken to him in ages.