Politics and the art of capitulation

Kinja'd!!! "Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
12/17/2019 at 15:05 • Filed to: Armenia, Turkey, Genocide

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Both houses of the American Congress have agreed (an achievement in and of itself) that Turkey’s 1915 genocide o f its Armenian population was a genocide.

Not their president though. Oh no. His best buddy, that nice Mr Erdogan, didn’t like that. He threatened to close the American military bases in Turkey or else. That nice Mr Trump then decided to bend over for Mr Erdogan and delete the hated G word. So that’s ok then.

Mind you his predecessor was just the same.


DISCUSSION (17)


Kinja'd!!! For Sweden > Cé hé sin
12/17/2019 at 15:17

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This is typical of the yankees. They didn’t apologize for locking Japanese-Americans in camps until over 40 years later .


Kinja'd!!! Textured Soy Protein > Cé hé sin
12/17/2019 at 15:18

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Kim Kardashian is a big promoter of recognizing Armenian genocide and she does have the sentient regurgitated Cheeto’s ear, so...maybe? 


Kinja'd!!! jimz > For Sweden
12/17/2019 at 15:22

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the Japanese have yet to really acknowledge their behavior leading up to (and including) WWII. To this day China and Korea dislike them rather much.

at least when I was in school we were told about the internment camps.  And not in a favorable light. 


Kinja'd!!! facw > Cé hé sin
12/17/2019 at 15:45

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I saw this billboard in both New York and Houston ~5 years ago:

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I thought it was profoundly strange, both in the sense that I don’t think man y people in Houston care about Turks or Armenians, and NYC is only a bit ahead, and also because anyone who knows about the Armenian probably isn’t likely to have their mind changed by butterflies being friends, and if you’re Turkey, you probably don’t want people who don’t know about it looking into it.


Kinja'd!!! Roundbadge > Cé hé sin
12/17/2019 at 15:50

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Under no circumstances am I saying that it wasn’t genocide...

...but this was attempted before in 2007 as a ploy against then-President Bush to interfere in staging for the Iraq war.  They just succeeded this time.


Kinja'd!!! Cé hé sin > For Sweden
12/17/2019 at 15:59

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And not just them. Took the Russians sixty plus years to admit the Katyn massacre, and then grudgingly.


Kinja'd!!! Cé hé sin > facw
12/17/2019 at 16:01

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I never look at things saying “fact check” or the like beca use the possibility of fi ndi ng facts there is vanishingly small.


Kinja'd!!! feather-throttle-not-hair > Cé hé sin
12/17/2019 at 16:37

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My dad and my step mom are both big trump supporters whom i’m going to go visit in a week. This should be an interesting litmus test to see how deep the cognitive dissonance runs.

My step mom’s grandfather was a doctor who was present during the Armenian genocide, I believe some of his photos have been displayed at the Holocaust Museum (they’re big on documenting genocide in general. )

My dad is Jewish. We’ll see how it goes.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > For Sweden
12/17/2019 at 16:41

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Or the Swedes, who were complicit at the very least with the Third Reich, gladly sold the Nazis iron ore well into 1944, and have done an awesome job at keeping that out of most discussion. Neutral like the Swiss, lol.


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > Cé hé sin
12/17/2019 at 16:49

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I think we need to go back to political posts having a buffer image and warning.  We’ve been letting that slide


Kinja'd!!! Shift24 > HammerheadFistpunch
12/17/2019 at 16:55

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Agreed bout tired of this politics BS on here

Luckily the P opular from Oppo   is broken because the top posts right now would all be political.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > feather-throttle-not-hair
12/17/2019 at 17:05

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My uncle is a stereotypical boomer Trumpster who I get to see next week, if he spouts off, I wonder if I should mention this, or if he’d even fathom it.

For 45, we all know he has dreams of being a cowardly “strongman” like Erdogan, so that’s where the support comes from.


Kinja'd!!! gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > fintail
12/17/2019 at 19:35

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Or a hotel or two


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > facw
12/17/2019 at 22:27

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A handful of Turkish officials have been assassinated by Armenians within the US over the years.  Pretty big deal with Armenian-Americans.


Kinja'd!!! fintail > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
12/17/2019 at 22:42

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You know it.  There’s always something behind the scenes.

Just like that 6 page screed 45 released today, something lady doth protest too much something something.


Kinja'd!!! For Sweden > fintail
12/17/2019 at 22:57

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We only apologize for Norwegian Independence


Kinja'd!!! BigBlock440 > Cé hé sin
12/18/2019 at 15:13

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Well, the air base does have a stockpile of B61's that we don’t really want to let out of our hands or let Turkey have....