It’s Salt Season Again.

"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
12/05/2019 at 18:19 • Filed to: None

How it feels

DISCUSSION (21)

Wacko > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 18:29

It’s that time of the year when Mazdas get lighter and lighter

eyeofthetiger > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 18:30

Stop salting roads. Use the salt money to fun d wi nter driver training programs . Require this training for anyone who drives in winter weather . Sell your stocks in Bondo, Great Stuff, and Rustoleum.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 18:32

*Scr ea ms in Mazda

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > eyeofthetiger
12/05/2019 at 18:35

And mandate studded snow tires.

Better than banning them. I’m looking at you Wi!

dogisbadob > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 18:36

Remember folks, it’s not just your car the gets fucked up by the salt!

The bridges and infrastructure also get damaged

We need to stop using salt and use CMA instead. It is effective at the same temperatures as the salt but does n’t do all that damage. While CMA costs more than salt, it doesn’ t cost more than salt + the damage it causes

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > dogisbadob
12/05/2019 at 18:40

I’d be willing to bet there are lobbies paid by auto manufacturers to push continued use of salt. There’s no money in keeping old cars on the road.

For Sweden > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 18:42

Also the lobby for people who mine and sell salt.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 18:48

‘Tis the season for fucking insane perfume ads. Seriously. They’re cramming them down our throats and it's all nonsensical garbage.

HammerheadFistpunch > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 18:53

So much this.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 19:07

I wouldn’t object to state encouragement of snow tires (but frankly mandating more than having good condition snow rated all seasons goes a bit far in my book) in places that get a lot of snow but making everyone run studs would cost a fortune. Studs do a lot of damage to the road and making everyone use them for 6 months of the year would require a lot of road repairs.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
12/05/2019 at 19:11

It wouldn’t damage the roads if they are covered in snow.

dogisbadob > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 19:18

Studs do too much damage to the roads. Even in WI and MN, the roads aren’t *always* covered in snow

Instead, carry tire chains. Then you can use them only when needed.

And there is a good alternative to salt. It’s called CMA. It works at all the sam e temperatures as salt but without the damage potential

Jim Spanfeller > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 19:19

I especially hate road salt because my usual daily driver is 53 years old, and with an ageing paint job. Winter is pretty, but it sure sucks for classic cars.

HammerheadFistpunch > For Sweden
12/05/2019 at 19:21

damn you morton!

HammerheadFistpunch > Jim Spanfeller
12/05/2019 at 19:22

even my 20 something car is hating it.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 19:31

If you have enough snow coverage that the studs don’t touch the road the studs aren’t giving you an advantage over studless tires.

dogisbadob > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
12/05/2019 at 19:53

There are a few 3-peak all-season tires out now, which legally makes them winter tires under laws where winter tires are required. In fact, they are quite popular in those jurisdictions

dogisbadob > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 20:18

Studs are really only good under a very narrow set of conditions, mainly ice that is just around freezing point. And they use harder rubber to accommodate the studs. The only studded tires worth using are from Nokian. They use softer rubber and actually have two different kinds of studs (inner and outer sections of the tire). The Nokian studs also have a shock absorber cushion built into them, so they do less damage to the roads (but still not zero). But even their non-studded R-series (their current tire is the R3) are very, very good

Modern studless tires are essentially always better. The aforementioned Nokian R3 is better than any studded tire except theirs.

QCGoose > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 21:31

Bingo.

Sammyno55 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 21:52

What is all this salt and CMA you speak of?

Cries in Georgian currently visiting Cleveland.

shop-teacher > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
12/05/2019 at 22:43

My poor rocker panels.

I got a $1000 quote to get a the m replaced. Probably gonna go for it this summer.