What Would You Say To Buying A New Ford Raptor?!!!

"M.T. Blake" (autohabit)
11/24/2019 at 20:45 • Filed to: Raptor, ford raptor, decisions, toyota 4runner, new car is best car, old faithful, keeping the faith, opinions, tell me how you really feel

Let’s say I have a friend (I do have friends) and suppose they wanted to buy a new F-150 Raptor... what say you? Should I *ahem* “friend” buy a Raptor?!

Credit to Team Ford Vegas, they seem to be the highest volume Raptor seller.

Seriously, with all the issues new diesel trucks are having, and the fact a Raptor pretty much holds its weight better than gold, it can’t be a bad idea?

I’d probably take any color for the right price. Dark is preferable, lead foot grey looks excellent but might not age well.

I mean it does cost north of $60,000, it gets terrible mileage (15 city / 18 hwy), and it isn’t going to tow much, even though that isn’t a necessity right now.

I’ve had my 4Runner for the last year and a half, added 6,000 miles, and had 0 issues (knocking on wood). I bought it for $15,500 and I believe I could get just about every dollar back out of it...

The trailer backing aid is equipped lol!

What say you Oppofam? Ditch the ‘Yota and bring a dinosaur home? Or keep the un-killable king and watch the wallet swell?

DISCUSSION (89)

Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 20:49

Spent some time with one; wasn’t my thing. They’re a safe place to put money based on history, I don’t think you’d lose your ass entirely by any means.

I like trucks but I live in a bigger city so it was kind of a serious issue parking it and such. They drive nice and move out really well. Would be fun but fun as a second vehicle and not a primary for my life. All depends on what you want it to do and the experience you’re hoping to have!

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 20:51

Buy the previous gen.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 20:52

Oppo requests jumps when you get it out of break in.

M.T. Blake > Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru
11/24/2019 at 20:52

I’ve gravitated toward Toyota and now Raptor to stop the bleeding. Buying an E60 M5 makes you readjust your lifestyle to potential forest fires that start in the garage

M.T. Blake > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/24/2019 at 20:53

Why?

M.T. Blake > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
11/24/2019 at 20:53

Cross my heart and swear to die. Stick a needle in my eye.

FrankAtlanta > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 20:54

I really like the Raptor and was considering, but - seriously - the water pump location/design gives me pause. I tend to keep my cars for 15+ yrs and I see that design causing issues.

Jayvincent > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 20:56

If you can swing it, go big with the Roush update

Kinja'd!!!

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 21:02

I would say:

Kinja'd!!!

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 21:10

V8 will hold it’s value better than the Ecoboost

fhrblig > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 21:13

I would give up a testicle for a previous generation V8 SuperCab Raptor, but I like these too. Go for it! I mean, tell your ‘friend’ to go for it.

Poor_Sh > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 21:21

That’s a terrible idea.... Do it.

shop-teacher > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 21:30

If you can afford it, they're super cool and hold their value really well. Just remember it's not ACTUALLY a trophy truck ;)

Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 21:36

I can relate hahaha. The raptor is a killer second or third vehicle. Do it ;)

For Sweden > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 21:44

If you are not regularly towing things, buy the Raptor

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 21:56

If someone can afford it and they like it then why not.

But for my money I’d buy a one ton Ram instead.

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 22:04

The good and bad about Raptors is that they're done. You're getting a complete package - it's already got the shocks, engine, appearance, etc. That being said it is done so there's nothing more to do. Oppo seems to have a tinkerer's mindset and we're always finding ways to make approvements here and there.

Gone > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 22:23

You won’t really lose much money via depreciation so it’s a good choice. Coworker had a ‘14 SCrew w/all the options and last year upgraded to a ‘ 18 SCrew w/ 802a/ every option. Not a fan of how it sounds and he gets 14mpg everywhere but is a very nice truck in and out . Personally would get a ‘19 (for the Live Valve shocks) 802a (Luxo barge + Torsen) in Performance Blue, tech pack, bead locks, rear appliqué delete, decal delete, glass roof, bed liner, heated rear seats @ $72,605 sticker. If you get the 800a/ 801a I’d get the Torsen option, seems silly without it. Haven’t been in one with the Live Valves, but the standard Foxes (on both gens ) are a bit soft and floaty IMO . I’ve driven a stock ‘13 SCrew fancy version (and now modded with 3.0s, bedcage, 37s). It’s a real fun driver but still too soft and rolls too much in the corners for me on the road.

I considered it (among a couple other trucks) but ended up in a ZR2. I like the size and how it rides better . It ’s also about half the price and I didn’t want to put that much down (wanted to finance $30k or less) or have a big note so was an easy choice for me. Really wish I had the ventilated seats though!

Do it!

M.T. Blake > FrankAtlanta
11/24/2019 at 23:07

I’m guessing it’s in a bad spot. Either at the back or inside the V...?!

M.T. Blake > Jayvincent
11/24/2019 at 23:08

I wish. Pockets aren’t that deep.

M.T. Blake > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
11/24/2019 at 23:08

Tacoma Pro?

M.T. Blake > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/24/2019 at 23:10

Really?! You think so? Even with the six making more power and having a nicer interior?

M.T. Blake > fhrblig
11/24/2019 at 23:11

I wish they were still eights but I cant knock anything with a lot of power. Four, six, eight, or bigger, if it goes like stink, I like it.

M.T. Blake > Poor_Sh
11/24/2019 at 23:13

Bahahhahahhaha. It is. It really is.

Once I looked elsewhere from diesel, the Raptor is really the only gas half ton that holds its value like a diesel lol.

M.T. Blake > shop-teacher
11/24/2019 at 23:15

My buddy found that out when it look his ‘almost’ trophy Ranger into the desert and hit a 5’ deep washout at 60mph. The front axle ripped out and it came to a full stop in the ditch. Amazing he wasn’t killed.

M.T. Blake > Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru
11/24/2019 at 23:16

The Raptor will be a DD, but I really don’t drive much. Work is a short country drive away from home.

Poor_Sh > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 23:16

Idk Tacos always seem to hold their value. But I’ve never bought a car to retain it’s value so I wouldn’t know much.

M.T. Blake > For Sweden
11/24/2019 at 23:18

I don’t. My tractor weighs ~3000lbs and I don’t plan on getting rid of the ‘96 Dodge Cummins.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 23:18

Kinja'd!!!

M.T. Blake > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
11/24/2019 at 23:19

That is a problem. Then again, my wife HATES when I sit her down with a spreadsheet of expenses to build my next project. We both hate that I lost the farm on my Camaro.

M.T. Blake > Gone
11/24/2019 at 23:23

Good stuff here. You know it well. I was opting against 802, mainly because I’m a minimalist with bells and whistles... although the front diff is desired. I don’t care for the moonroof, or auto cruise as I don’t commute. Bluetooth is the main thing I complain about when getting into any older car. I need it. I’m so used to it, I have to pull over (legally too) to make a call.

M.T. Blake > Poor_Sh
11/24/2019 at 23:25

Do as you may, but don’t be the guy who buys a new 7-series. Give me the money, I’ll punch you in the plums, and that will be a lesser blow than selling a used 7.

M.T. Blake > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
11/24/2019 at 23:27

No means yes!

CRider > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul
11/24/2019 at 23:28

There are always things to do. Tunes , bumpers, lights are common on them.

CRider > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
11/24/2019 at 23:30

2017- 2018 Raptor values say the V6 does just fine in that regard.

CRider > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 23:31

I know someone with a Lead Foot supercab that hasn’t stopped dropping people’s j aws yet. Plus, paddle shifters- in a truck!

M.T. Blake > CRider
11/24/2019 at 23:42

I want to be their doppelgänger.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 23:49

Now we’re gonna have to get the feminists after you!

LOL

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 23:52

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M.T. Blake > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
11/24/2019 at 23:53

Psh... all you’d need to do to get me in trouble is show that to my wife.

M.T. Blake > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo
11/24/2019 at 23:54

Soooo you’re saying you like the idea...?!

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > M.T. Blake
11/24/2019 at 23:55

Let’s just say that a base SuperCrew in Lead Foot would be in my driveway right now if I had pockets that deep.

M.T. Blake > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo
11/25/2019 at 00:03

Glad you approve. I’m going to try and make it happen now. If I can’t swing it I’ll have to wait a year. Depends on the dealers appetite, financing, and if I want to eat top ramen for the next year.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 00:05

We have a 2016 Lithium Gray XLT Sport 2.7 SuperCrew in the driveway that just hit 85k yesterday. I couldn’t think of a better truck for us. As much as I want a Raptor, I sleep happily at night knowing that’s 95% as good for $15k less. You’re going to love that thing.

CRider > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 02:23

Eh, I think I'd settle for having a similar truck. Raptors really are fun if you have the room to let them run.

Brandon > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 04:13

Wait a year. Buy one same time same place next year. Let's see how they do. Save your money.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 05:54

Yeah, truck people really like their V8’s

shop-teacher > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 07:04

Daaaaaaang

Duncan > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 07:12

Do it. Wife drives a 2014 6.2, stock except some lights and a chip and LOVES it.

Taken it wheeling a bunch and it keeps up with my modded Rubicon surprisingly well considering its massive size.

FrankAtlanta > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 07:24

Inside... Now, as with most things, hopefully (and probably), the failure rate isn’t great, but it looks like a bugger to proactively fix.

AB123 > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 08:00

First off, do you live in Montana? From Montana? What is the MT for? I ask cuz I live in MT. Anyway....

It all comes down to what you actually want. The raptor is incredibly cool. There’s no other way to put it. it has some of the best on-road presents of any current vehicle. That being said, it is, without a doubt, about a thousand times more truck than almost anyone will ever fully utilize. I mean, most of us daily drive 96% of the time and occasionally drive down a nasty road when camping, fishing, etc. I don’t know anybody who bajas their daily driver.

So, and I say this cuz I was in your exact position one year ago, go take a look at the ram rebel. For the price you’ll pay to get even a used raptor, you can get a brand new rebel with lots of options. Can the rebel do what the raptor does off-road? N o , not even close. Is it undoubtedly a more comfortable daily driver? 100%. Also, the interior materials on the rebel are multiple orders of magnitude nicer than that of the raptor. It has always kind of blown my mind that you pay as much as you do for a new raptor and the interior is almost entirely hard black plastic. Meanwhile, the rebel is full of thoughtfully selected and carefully designed premium materials. I highly recommend you go take a look at the rebel. Godspeed.

Pickup_man > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 09:04

I say if you can afford it, do it.

I looked really hard at *used* Raptors when I was truck shopping but just couldn’t stomach the price difference. I found a few in my price range, but for a couple thousand less I bought a base FX4 with 60,000 less miles, and the long box. I still really want a Raptor, but I love my FX4, it will be more than capable for my needs, and there’s room for upgrades.

Also, my insurance guy wanted to be very sure that my new truck was indeed not a Raptor because that’s a whole different level of insurance apparently , so you might want to look into that.

Tripper > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 09:24

I will always push someone into a cool car purchase, and while not my particular cup of tea (right now anyway) an F150 Raptor is super cool!

+1 for I dare you

JustAnotherG6 > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 09:31

Let me just start by saying the Raptor is a damn fine truck. I have a BIL that has a ‘19 but it’s mostly a garage queen. If it were me, and I was going to buy a truck, I’d opt for a 2WD, Short bed, crew cab, 3.5L TT V6, 3.15 rear axle in some sor t of blue.

Textured Soy Protein > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 09:43

Sounds like you’ll be making a wise financial decision.

Spanfeller is a twat > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 09:43

If the Toyota held its value, then go ahead.

HoustonRunner > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 09:47

Not sure if it was mentioned yet, but DO IT!

just-a-scratch > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 10:23

Scary.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 12:32

yeah im in the firm DO IT catagory

AfromanGTO > M.T. Blake
11/25/2019 at 14:13

The only thing stopping me from getting a Raptor is the v6 engine. If I could get one with a V8 directly from Ford. I would buy it.

M.T. Blake > CRider
11/25/2019 at 18:26

I live in the woods, granted you get a bit loose on a forest road and it’s going to be a Raptor wrapped around a lodge pole pine.

M.T. Blake > Brandon
11/25/2019 at 18:27

That might happen. So far the financing doesn’t look ideal. I haven’t bought many new cars but those that I have, have been 1.9% or less.

M.T. Blake > Duncan
11/25/2019 at 18:28

Good to know! Thanks!

M.T. Blake > AB123
11/25/2019 at 18:32

MT are for my initials. I’m located in NorCal. I’ll take a look into the Rebel. I had been looking at Ram 3500 Laramie but my diesel mechanic is steering me away from anything new... and the used trucks are ridiculously priced (TM) lol.

M.T. Blake > Pickup_man
11/25/2019 at 18:37

The pockets can suffer a little bit more abuse, not much more. The insurance will be expensive for my age, driving record, and location, but I’m not too worried as the E60 M5 was about $400 year for full coverage at $1k deductible. That’s for a pleasure car at 3k miles per year. I doubt I’ll put 5k miles or more on a Raptor, the insurance company won’t care about that as soon as I say ‘daily driver’.

M.T. Blake > Tripper
11/25/2019 at 18:39

Double dog dare!!!

I’ll keep pushing forward until the money, or deal becomes too sour to stomach

M.T. Blake > JustAnotherG6
11/25/2019 at 18:44

I’ve got a ‘96 Dodge 2500 Cummins 4wd in rough shape with 88k miles that’s going to remain my dump run, tractor towing machine. I’ll keep abusing it until it makes sense to restore it.

My daily has been a 4Runner for the last 1-1/2 years with a mere 6k miles added. The wife’s Sienna minivan has been the main family hauler. A Raptor for me will be a daily, but a nicely kept, low mileage, and mostly a toy to play with on weekends. It will be a little more of something to take care of as the 4Runner is nothing more than transportation for me at this point. I haven’t done anything fun with it. My kids are still too young... they hate road trips!

M.T. Blake > Textured Soy Protein
11/25/2019 at 18:47

Relative to most new car purchases - I’m going to try.

I wish I was one of those lucky souls that had 140k to buy a new Ford GT back in 2005 only to have doubled my money at this point. The goal at my price and clout is not to lose the farm on a new vehicle.

M.T. Blake > Spanfeller is a twat
11/25/2019 at 18:49

It was a great deal. The guy I bought it from commuted with it and added a ton of miles, but the Carfax was the proof in the pudding - he maintained the crap out of it. It was immaculate minus to small dents, new brakes, and barely a scuff on the drivers seat.

M.T. Blake > HoustonRunner
11/25/2019 at 18:50

I can’t hear you... did you say...

DOOOOOOOO EEEETTTTTTT?!?!

M.T. Blake > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
11/25/2019 at 18:53

Will you like me more or less when I’m scoffing at average lifted trucks and drinking my $6 mocha with my pinky in the air?

M.T. Blake > AfromanGTO
11/25/2019 at 18:56

It’s a sad world when the cylinders begin to disappear. Ordinarily I’d say we boycott Ford and demand our V8 Raptor back, but the world has changed, and the six is a great engine. I’ll take what we have been given, as I don’t think eight cylinder trucks will be with us much longer.

CRider > M.T. Blake
11/26/2019 at 02:06

In the woods, two wheels is king.

M.T. Blake > CRider
11/26/2019 at 02:23

You haven’t seen me on two wheels. I’d be smashed against the pine faster than in the Raptor. I sold my hopped up KTM 125 for a reason. I was getting cocky and stupid on it.

CRider > M.T. Blake
11/26/2019 at 04:00

May be a nice pair of boots is what you need.

JustAnotherG6 > M.T. Blake
11/26/2019 at 10:57

We never gave our kids an option. They were doing a 6 hr drive a couple of times a year since they were still in rear facing car seats to visit my parents . Since then they have been great travelers either by car or plane. T hey have several 8 to 10 hr. trips under their belts with little to no complaints even when we take them on a 7 mile death march of DC the afternoon we landed .

RPM esq. > M.T. Blake
11/26/2019 at 12:31

Do it.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > M.T. Blake
11/26/2019 at 12:50

Do it but shop nationwide. Metro area dealers tend to slap on “I know what I got” markups.

M.T. Blake > JustAnotherG6
11/26/2019 at 13:07

I wish that was my experience. My kid tries to brain people by throwing hot wheels cars on the plane.

M.T. Blake > RPM esq.
11/26/2019 at 13:08

Looking for financing now. Rates suck. Lowest I’ve found is 2.74. I should be able to get lower!

M.T. Blake > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
11/26/2019 at 13:14

Dude...

Vegas has been the cheapest listed online. My local dealer wanted $82k... I told them I’ll make the all day drive and save the money lol.

whatisthatsound > M.T. Blake
11/26/2019 at 14:16

N ow that the Fed just confirmed the rate they are looking to target it, this is a pretty competitive rate.

RPM esq. > M.T. Blake
11/26/2019 at 14:16

I was just looking at refinancing my 4Runner and was shocked that I couldn’t find a lower rate than my mortgage.

whatisthatsound > M.T. Blake
11/26/2019 at 14:19

Oh also, get the 802A package. I bounced between this and a stupid soccer mom SUV as my DD and tow vehicle. I went the GLE route so I can make a really really stupid purchase in 2023.

M.T. Blake > whatisthatsound
11/26/2019 at 14:24

It’s hard to stomach considering highest I’ve ever had was 1.9%...

M.T. Blake > RPM esq.
11/26/2019 at 14:25

What crap! Interest is the killer.

M.T. Blake > whatisthatsound
11/26/2019 at 14:26

If I can get 802A for a good price I’ll do it. Right now they’re running about 10k more and I don’t know if I want to pay that.

JustAnotherG6 > M.T. Blake
11/27/2019 at 09:44

Mind you, my boys are 14 and 12 now, but there was a day when we ( meaning my wife) had to plan ‘quiet’ activities to distract the kids when they were younger. It does get better... or at least different.

AfromanGTO > M.T. Blake
12/02/2019 at 14:46

I am waiting for the GT500 powered Raptor or Hellkitty powered Ram TRX to come out.

The market for V8 trucks isn’t going anywhere at all.

V8s are too much of a status symbol for Americans.

There is a market for them, and they will sell like hot cakes.