Room-temp take: The E65 has aged way better than the W220

"nj959" (nj959) 08/22/2018 at 11:43 • Filed to: None

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dat ass

Don’t get me wrong, it’s still hideous, but it’s a more modern hideous than whatever the fuck this is:

The fact that these all have cloudy headlamps doesn’t help. Kudos to Chris Bangle, he was ugly ahead of his time.

The A8 and the Jaaaag have aged the best of all the 10-15 year old big luxury sedans.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > nj959 08/22/2018 at 12:00

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Disagree. The W220 has aged wonderfully unlike its immediate successor which remains one of the most hideous generations of Benz ever.

DipodomysDeserti > nj959 08/22/2018 at 12:01

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Uhhhhhh, no.

LOREM IPSUM > nj959 08/22/2018 at 12:02

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I'll take those style 95's. You can keep the rest.

HammerheadFistpunch > nj959 08/22/2018 at 12:04

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Hot take - The W220 always looked like a melted silver turd.

gmctavish needs more space > nj959 08/22/2018 at 12:04

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If I see a W220, I assume it’s with its first or second owner.

If I see an E65, I assume it’s with its sixth or seventh owner, and, judging by the massive, curbed gross aftermarket wheels, not far from the scrapyard. 

nj959 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 08/22/2018 at 12:05

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No no no. The W220 is the ugliest S class, the W221 is about average.

The W211 E class was pretty good though.

nj959 > DipodomysDeserti 08/22/2018 at 12:05

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yup yup yup

nj959 > gmctavish needs more space 08/22/2018 at 12:08

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The presence of that W220 at a buy here pay here lot makes that questionable.

I think most of these old luxury cars are with their 3rd owners at least. Unless there’s still anyone holding on to the old XJ since the new ones are so different.

nj959 > LOREM IPSUM 08/22/2018 at 12:08

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This is the right way to do it.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > nj959 08/22/2018 at 12:08

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You posted the Bangle Butt but left out the Bangle face

At least they fixed it in the facelift

nj959 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 08/22/2018 at 12:10

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The front of the pre-facelift makes me laugh though, just because it’s so silly looking. The W220 just makes me feel sad.

fintail > nj959 08/22/2018 at 12:11

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The pre-2003 cars have headlights that looked somewhat cloudy even when new, as xenon was optional, and was a non-projector style . The facelift had a clearer design, and fare better in areas with mild climates.

Both cars now define money pit BHPH luxury (while the Audi and Jag define Russian roulette).

Ash78, voting early and often > nj959 08/22/2018 at 12:12

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Agreed on the Audi and Jag, but I’m taking the 220 above the E65 by a factor of two.

Yes, it was bland, but only really in hindsight against Mercedes successive couple of heavily styled generations. At the time, it was a very clean-looking barge. And about 50% of all rap videos agreed!

gmctavish needs more space > nj959 08/22/2018 at 12:14

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Fair, maybe they’re both well into several owners, but the E65 owners around here seem to take much worse care of them, not that I see them at all much anymore. When I delivered to mechanics shops I used to see them all the time....

I really don’t care for E65s, I think it’s because they had the nerve to replace the E38 with them. 

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > nj959 08/22/2018 at 12:47

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At 11 years old now, I’d say the LS460 still looks really good.

nj959 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 08/22/2018 at 13:02

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I agree, they’ve aged really well.

404 - User No Longer Available > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 08/22/2018 at 13:03

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Looks like a 4-eyed look of disapproval.

404 - User No Longer Available > nj959 08/22/2018 at 13:09

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Well they’re meant to age... cab drivers still need to beat the living life out of them after 15 + years.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 08/22/2018 at 13:27

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Hot take. The pre facelift looks better. It's a design ahead of its time. 

WilliamsSW > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 08/22/2018 at 13:35

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Yea but that’s because it went out of production 20 minutes ago...

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 08/22/2018 at 13:36

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WilliamsSW > nj959 08/22/2018 at 13:38

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They’re both very dated looking - and yeah, the Audi and Jag aged way better, but I wouldn’t touch the the E65 or W220 with a 10 foot pole.

Textured Soy Protein > nj959 08/22/2018 at 13:55

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The only one I’d have is the Jag because it’s the last of the Jags that looks like a Jag before they became boring spaceships. 

deprecated account > nj959 08/22/2018 at 13:59

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Post-facelift LS430?

Gerry197 > nj959 08/22/2018 at 14:12

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It has been said, Bangle was ahead of his time. His designs, specifically the “flame” design language under his direction have held up very well.

Everyone hated that 7 series design when it came out, but it has been the best selling 7-series of all time.  Still looks fresh to this day.  Resale is another issue, but that has more to do with an older German car out of warranty than the design.  

3point8isgreat > nj959 08/22/2018 at 14:56

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I can’t stand the Bangle Butt. I first saw it on a 6 series and I couldn’t stop being amazed at how absolutely awful it looked. It was like the car was in an accident and it was poorly repaired with a trunk lid from a different car.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > nj959 08/22/2018 at 15:02

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shudduppp

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > WilliamsSW 08/22/2018 at 15:04

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Well. Kinda. The LS430 is a a beaut though for ending production in 2006.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > nj959 08/22/2018 at 15:07

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No. The 140 is the ugliest. Not just S-class. But Benz. Ever. And the worst. In every way possible. So I'll just assume you forgot they exist because they're so bad.

WilliamsSW > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 08/22/2018 at 15:08

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I still love the look of that generation. Simpl e yet elegant. 

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > WilliamsSW 08/22/2018 at 15:10

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Don’ t forget the 2nd generation LS400. With 17" on it, it is such a great design. For being almost two decades old, it is not bad in the least bit.  

WilliamsSW > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 08/22/2018 at 15:16

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The first two gens are classics but the 3rd is my favorite. I still see well kept examples of those ( likely 1 owner) around here occasionally. No mean feat around Chicago.  

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > WilliamsSW 08/22/2018 at 15:24

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ToddinTN has a nice black one and then I’ve seen a couple of the green ones running around which are very nice, but second gen is probably my favorite. 

WilliamsSW > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 08/22/2018 at 16:37

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There’s a 3rd gen around here that’s dark blue with a beige interior, and I’m tempted to follow the owner home and make him an offer whenever I see it.  

Spanfeller is a twat > nj959 10/09/2018 at 20:50

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The Jag aged the best. 

nj959 > Spanfeller is a twat 10/09/2018 at 22:21

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This hot take was 100% worth the two month wait.

V12 Jake II- New and Improved! > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 01/28/2019 at 17:25

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The hottest possible take.