Canada should be green too

"interstate366, now In The Industry" (interstate366) 08/04/2018 at 14:41 • Filed to: None

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But I didn’t make it.

LOREM IPSUM > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 14:48

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Truth.

DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 14:51

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I didn’t know they still use the imperial system in Canada, I guess that explains why AvE uses it quite a bit. I always thought he just did it to troll fellow Canadians.

Cé hé sin > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 14:53

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Truth be told, quite a few places should be green. Ireland for one and I suspect Australia and NZ as well.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 14:54

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It’s strange that I prefer to measure speed and distance in metric, but when it comes to engine power, height, weight, and food measurements (e.g. two 1/4lb patties, a pint of beer) I prefer using imperial.

I think some it comes from my science background and the rest comes from the fact that I don’t want to sound like a knob (give me the 114g burger with 568ml of lager please).

That said, I think the US dropped the ball on having a smaller pint.

Goggles Pizzano > DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever 08/04/2018 at 15:05

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Building a home with metric units. Kill me now!

Svend > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 15:08

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Yes, but the America ns use the old imperial system of English Units which changed in 1824 or 1825 or something . 

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 15:09

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Worse, the people of the UK use a bunch of weird imperial units that effectively nobody else uses, just to make it that much harder.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 08/04/2018 at 15:11

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Yeah. Stone comes to mind.

interstate366, now In The Industry > gin-san - shitpost specialist 08/04/2018 at 15:13

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That we did...our pint is almost an entire tenth of a liter smaller! That adds up quickly.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Cé hé sin 08/04/2018 at 15:16

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New Zealand came to mind for me as well for some reason and it would follow that Australia would be very similar to them too.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 15:16

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That was the first one I thought of, too. But there are a bunch of others.

Their gallon is also different from ours, making mpg comparisons complicated and confusing stupid people that think they have much more efficient engines and pay that much more for fuel.

fhrblig > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 15:25

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Honestly, we could switch to metric for nearly everything and I would have no problem with it... as long as we don’t switch to Celsius. I hate the Celsius scale .

Svend > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 08/04/2018 at 15:51

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Because America uses the old system developed on English Units which America calls U.S. Customary Units, but then we in England changed some of those English Units and it became the Imperial System.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 15:59

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Also, wtf is wrong with Myanmar?

kanadanmajava1 > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 16:29

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If you also take account the aviation i n d u s t r y a n d t h e i r unit systems the whole map becomes green. The Germany did some nasty things during WWII but at least their aircraft had sensible unit system.

And then we have w h e el a u t o m o t i v e w h e e l industry . S h o w b e l o w i s a 1 0 x 1 8 " wheel with 5x114.3mm bolt pattern. 114.3mm = 4.5" . T h e w h o l e s t u p i d t h i n g i s i n i m p e r i a l u n i t s .

The valve is missing from the wheel but you would use something like this. I t ’ s c a l l e d a S c h r ader valve. S ounds pretty German but i t ’ s still an invention made in US by an immigrant t ha t ca m e f r o m G e r m a n y . And the threads:

External thread: 0.305" x 32 TPI
Internal thread: 0.209" x 36 TPI

S o i t ’ s a n i m p e r i a l s t a n d a r d t h a t ’ s u s e d i n n e a rly every possible car. I have seen a handful of ~100 year old cars that were using some other stand a r d .

Urambo Tauro > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 16:31

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I have no desire to start learning to speak in metric. I’m just too familiar with imperial units. BUT metric measurements do make more sense, and if the rest of the country was willing to commit to having future generations grow up on the metric system, I’d be willing to undergo that transition myself too.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 16:34

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I had no idea that we all ourselves metric

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Cé hé sin 08/04/2018 at 16:35

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nah Australia is blue. Imperial is pretty much dead here. Birth weight and gym equipment is probably the only time it comes up with any regularity.

facw > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 08/04/2018 at 16:42

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A lot. At the moment genocide is the biggest concern: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar#Genocide_allegations_and_crimes_against_Rohingya_people

But yeah, a lot is wrong with Myanmar. 

facw > fhrblig 08/04/2018 at 16:45

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Yeah, Fahrenheit is I think better suited to everyday use, and in the lab, you should be using Kelvin anyway. Also f ahrenheit isn’t broken like our other measurements in the sense that it’s customary to use decimal fractions, and there’s only one unit to worry about as opposed to things like distance, volume, and weight which each have multiple units.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 16:48

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New Zealand’s pretty metricated nowadays. E verything transactional is metric, as is 95% of everyday usage . All that really remains is some slang references - a “pint” of beer, a  “yard” of mulch.

Older folks (60+) still think in imperial and have to convert. Those around my age (50) - ie who were teenagers when the transition happened - are a mashup. I work in engineering and exclusively deal with metric, but I still think of myself as 6’1” tall, for example. Anyone under 40 would know what the more common imperial units mean in metric but would have to consciously convert to use them, and probably wouldn’t know what the less common ones are.

Cé hé sin > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 08/04/2018 at 17:14

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What, you can’t get C astlemaine XXXX by the pint??

Cé hé sin > facw 08/04/2018 at 17:17

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Why would F be better for everyday use? I grew up with it but it’s of little meaning to me now. It makes sense to have freezing weather below zero.

facw > Cé hé sin 08/04/2018 at 17:25

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I just feel like it maps better (though certainly not perfectly) to normal weather conditions where people live. The freezing point of water is a relatively decent marker, but the boiling point is pretty useless. I also think it’s better for generalizing. Also for weather, the 10's position in F ahrenheit (like saying that it’s in the 70s) conveys a pretty distinctive impression for anything above 0 (below that it’s just really cold), but you can’t do that with Celsius (saying it’s in the 20s is pretty meaningless, as that covers too broad a range). Maybe you say low-20s or high-20s or whatever to get the same effect, but that still makes Fahrenheit a bit easier to deal with.  

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Cé hé sin 08/04/2018 at 17:42

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firstly . yuck.

secondly. by the schooner in these parts.

Cé hé sin > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 08/04/2018 at 18:04

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By the what?

(Googles)

Oh, it’s three quarters of a pint. So you’re still buying your XX XX (or not, according to taste) by the pint, just not a whole one!

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Cé hé sin 08/04/2018 at 18:29

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425mls thank you very much.

You can order pints more or less everywhere, but no one would recognise them as 20oz. They’re 570-ish mls and the beer is warm by the time you reach the bottom.

Cé hé sin > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 08/04/2018 at 19:06

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For reasons obscure, the Americans use the Queen Anne gallon.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Urambo Tauro 08/04/2018 at 19:07

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We tried it in the 70s.

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/04/2018 at 19:22

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Canada’s even more crazy because the British and American systems aren't identical, despite using the same names for units that aren't the same, yet both systems are prevalent.

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > facw 08/04/2018 at 19:57

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Nah. You just call out the number. If it’s been hot you say it’s been above 30 all week, or whatever. I’ll give Fahrenheit the advantage of greater inherent precision within the system due to smaller units, but that also flips because “around 25°C” isn’t all that far off from saying “in the 70's” (70°F is 21°C, 80°F is 27°C) so the lesser degree of precision allows a more sweeping generalization.

The conversion of water from liquid to solid has a pretty significant impact on day-to-day lives as well. Frost kills crops and gardens and downs airplanes, water freezing in a crack can damage things, driving on snow and ice is more exciting, food and other biological substances can be preserved for significantly longer intervals, instead of just “being very cold” human flesh sustains damage... etc. +50°C is friggen hot, -50°C is friggen cold, and that covers pretty well the range of normal temperatures on this planet. Anywhere from -25 to +25 is reasonably comfortable, but there's a pretty big shift in life that happens at that zero point. 

duurtlang > interstate366, now In The Industry 08/05/2018 at 03:15

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I wonder if the red and green countries still use floppy discs and dial phones as well. I understand it’s easier to keep using legacy stuff when you grew up with it, making it hard to progress to something less ancient and more logical.