Downsize Turbo - Why they are for the EPA cycle and not for real life.

Kinja'd!!! "HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
08/01/2018 at 13:55 • Filed to: None

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I’ve been saying this forever. I mean, if you put most of miles as highway miles then sure, Im sure these downsize engines are going to suit you perfectly...ignoring the additional upfront and repair costs of an engine like this over the long term.


DISCUSSION (9)


Kinja'd!!! WilliamsSW > HammerheadFistpunch
08/01/2018 at 14:08

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Shoot - and the whole reason I bought a car with a 4.7 liter TTV8 was to save on gas...


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > WilliamsSW
08/01/2018 at 14:13

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not really much of a downsize turbo though.


Kinja'd!!! WilliamsSW > HammerheadFistpunch
08/01/2018 at 14:16

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Hey it replaced a 5.5 NA so it’s kinda downsized.


Kinja'd!!! BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > HammerheadFistpunch
08/01/2018 at 14:35

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As someone who drives 95% highway (or at least consistent speed roads) - YEP, small turbos are awesome!


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
08/01/2018 at 14:36

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yeah, if that was my thing I would be all over them.  I do a lot of long drives, but im still heavy city balanced.  


Kinja'd!!! I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > HammerheadFistpunch
08/01/2018 at 14:55

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Most people who are buying new cars spend a majority of their miles on the highway, I think. It’s really going to start biting us in the ass when these cars are over 120k and make their way to the buy here pay here lots for a couple thousand- that’s when they’ll start being maintenance queens.


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
08/01/2018 at 14:58

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really?  I think most people have at least close to a 50/50 city/highway split.  I guess you cover more miles on the open road but most cars live their lives in the city.  As for the second part.  yup.


Kinja'd!!! Ash78, voting early and often > HammerheadFistpunch
08/01/2018 at 15:06

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Ditto. My personal car is 90% city (if you count suburban roads, which are more like highway than true urban driving).

The wife’s van is probably 75% city.

Needless to say, we’re considering hybrids if this trend continues.

Most people don’t really assess their ratio because the human brain skews toward “time in car” and not “miles traveled”


Kinja'd!!! Mercedes Streeter > HammerheadFistpunch
08/01/2018 at 17:26

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This is the reason why owners of the third gen smart fortwo get maybe 45 mpg at fast highway speeds (better than the previous generation), yet only 22-25 in the city (worse than the previous generation).

Any time you go into about 3k rpm or higher , extra fuel gets dumped into the engine for cooling...so you better have a good reason for getting into boost. And if you’re in the city, you hit boost only to come to a complete stop and have to do it all over again.

Meanwhile, the first generation smarts took a Mazda-like approach where the turbo does its thing and you still get 60+ mpg out of it.