"Party-vi" (party-vi)
07/20/2018 at 12:19 • Filed to: None
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"Party-vi" (party-vi)
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A month ago my wife started her 2005 Honda Pilot and shot sparks out from under the driver-side front tire. I smelled smoke and told her to shut it off. Couple weeks later it’s dead, so a new starter and battery go it, and I promptly smoke the starter. The engine is seized. No clue how it happened. I haven’t seen any oil leaks, and can’t imagine there’s water in it, so I will assume the belt jumped a tooth or took a shit and I dropped/bent a valve. It’s at the shop now to confirm my guess. It’s going to need either a new engine or a head/timing job.
Here’s the question: ‘05 Pilot with 157k miles (we got it for free a few years ago) , I’m guessing it’ s worth $6,000, and a new engine will cost me the same. Without that much cash laying around it’ll go on a credit card and probably take 3-4 years to pay off. Should we dump a new engine into this thing or just scrap it?
Chuckles
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 12:34 |
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If you put that repair on the credit card, what's the likelihood that the car lasts as long as it takes to pay it off?
CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 12:36 |
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Scrap would be my vote. You could go out and get a car for $6K on credit with a way lower interest rate than a CC.
That’s my 2 cents. Sorry bro
SPAMBot - Horse Doctor
> CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
07/20/2018 at 12:41 |
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This is my thought as well. Financing a cheaper car, even with bad credit, still has to be a lower APR than the 20%+ that a credit card would charge you. I would only do it differently if you can open a new card with a 0% intro APR that is long enough for you to pay it off.
vondon302
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 12:41 |
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I think I'd scrap it
Takuro Spirit
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 12:42 |
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Used motors run about a grand, depending on mileage. If you can find one cheaper with higher miles...
But you’re also looking at 14 hours of labor to R&R , plus replacing the timing belt on the junkyard engine...
Depending on the price of a motor and your shop’s labor it might be worth it to you, then you can sell it to recoup the repair costs or drive it till something else craps out on it.
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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> SPAMBot - Horse Doctor
07/20/2018 at 12:43 |
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Even a secured/unsecured line of credit would be better. Or second mortgage ? Whatever it takes to get money at an APR that is as low as possible.
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Party-vi
> Takuro Spirit
07/20/2018 at 12:49 |
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Damn 14 hours? I would guess 15 since it’s seized and they’ll need to get it off the transmission (takes longer if the engine won’t turn over?). $1,800 to swap the engine, I guess they should do the belt while it’s out.
Wacko
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 12:49 |
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LSx or scrap it
Cash Rewards
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 12:49 |
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https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/cto/d/2006-honda-pilot-ex-4x4-dvd/6643068735.html
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Party-vi
> Chuckles
07/20/2018 at 12:50 |
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It functions as the spare/winter car. Her concern is that if we scrape it we won’t have anything for inclement weather.
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Takuro Spirit
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 12:51 |
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Yeah figure extra time to access torque converter bolts or drop the whole thing (which they might have to anyways) to separate the pair.
On any high mile used engine its a good idea to do the maintenance while its out and accessible. Especially timing belts.
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Party-vi
> Cash Rewards
07/20/2018 at 12:53 |
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This, uh, pretty much answers my question.
boredalways
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 12:54 |
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Isn’t the 5AT the same as every other Honda product during that time that was the subject of a recall?
Part it out (if possible) while searching for cheap options
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Chuckles
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 12:56 |
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It's a tough call. It's nice having a spare car / winter beater, but for $6,000 on a credit card (plus maintenance, insurance, inspection etc) I'd probably just try to get by with one less car and some decent tires on my daily for winter. Not sure where you live, but I manage PA winters in my Fiat and my girlfriend drives her Civic. We manage. I'd love a 4x4 or something else for winter but it's not worth the money to me.
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Cash Rewards
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 12:56 |
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Theres a bunch more where that came from, too
Mid Engine
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 13:25 |
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same thing happened to my son’s ‘98 Pi lo t. Dropped a used engi ne in with 120k miles on it , lasted less than a year
Long-Voyager
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 13:31 |
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Throw it on CL for $1k, someone will snag it in a hurry.
kanadanmajava1
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 13:32 |
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Sounds pretty weird. If sparks came out near the engine but it was still running and not spewing oil , it doesn’t sound like a total mechanical engine failure.
Maybe some fairly thick wire is short circuiting to ground? Or the engine grounding wire has corroded? T here seems to be a fair ly large pulley that you could probably reach and turn with some tool. Then you would know if the engine turns freely or not.
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Party-vi
> kanadanmajava1
07/20/2018 at 13:39 |
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I think the starter took a shit trying to turn the engine over, and now it’s locked up. No spinny. The shop confirmed it won’t turn over by hand either.
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Party-vi
> Chuckles
07/20/2018 at 13:40 |
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My wife can work from home in bad weather, and I would need winter tires. Winter tires and wheels are a lot cheaper than a new engine.
RacinBob
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 13:41 |
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Wrecking yard engine is the answer. That should come in around $2500.
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Chuckles
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 13:50 |
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Yes, and you're not paying to insure/register/inspect an additional car.
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Party-vi
> Chuckles
07/20/2018 at 13:52 |
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I mentioned that too. I would like to get rid of it, but will miss having a third car for giggles.
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Chuckles
> Long-Voyager
07/20/2018 at 13:53 |
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“mechan ic’s special”
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Party-vi
> RacinBob
07/20/2018 at 13:53 |
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I called a place I typically deal with. I be they quote me $1,800 for installation if I source my own engine (they don’t have any for a Pilot). Still, $4,000 to swap in an engine with unknown history is sketchy to me.
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Chuckles
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 13:55 |
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Oh it's definitely nice having an extra car. Up until recently I had a 2003 Honda Civic sedan with 195k miles and a reconstructed title thanks to a hurricane. It was nice to have around when we needed it, but when my brother's car finally died I gave it to him.
For Sweden
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 14:10 |
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Hope you have enough DVDs
dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 16:19 |
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obvious answer is obvious: LS swap
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RacinBob
> Party-vi
07/20/2018 at 20:12 |
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Che ck car part.com and look at the nearby engine choices. I took a gander and I think you can find a clean engine for about $1200 range or less . I think that a reasonable mileage engine with clean looking under the v alve cover is a reasonable risk. So the question comes down to would you buy that car for $3k because essentially you are buying a used engine anyway.....
Just putting the option out there.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Party-vi
07/21/2018 at 08:30 |
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start looking for a replacement car