THE 2019 CAMARO 2.0T/V6 IS BETTER THAN THE CAMARO SS

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390) 04/09/2018 at 13:02 • Filed to: Ugly

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PROVE ME WRONG. If you’re daft and blind enough to drive that ugly-arse thing with a face only a blind mother could love, good for you.

But you’re as blind as you are wrong. This is now next to the new Avalon as the ugliest car of the year. Whoever designed this thing should feel accomplished that they actually made a car this ugly, because I didn’t think it could be done.

Space-Catfish is what I’m gonna call this facelift.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 13:13

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But what about the four door version of the SS?

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 04/09/2018 at 13:13

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I call this the Hell Camino

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 04/09/2018 at 13:14

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That’s an insult to both hell and the El Camino.

Funktheduck > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 13:14

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The whole “entire front as a grille” thing should go away

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 13:14

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Everything here is wrong. The only right design is the photoshop in this comment on FP. Move the fucking Bowtie up to the grill, Chevy!

https://jalopnik.com/1825104735

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 04/09/2018 at 13:15

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Sounds like the type of corporate decision they’d make anyways. Kind of like this abomination.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 04/09/2018 at 13:25

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GM, HIRE WHOEVER PHOTOSHOPPED THIS AND FIRE THE BLIND DESIGNER.

crowmolly > Funktheduck 04/09/2018 at 13:29

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Lately I’ve been wondering if it’s a cooling thing. With all the power cars make these days they also generate a lot more heat. Can’t do that with a fully covered nose.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 13:38

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By God, they finally put a turbo in it. Good job, Toyota!

feather-throttle-not-hair > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 13:43

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ew.

And no, you’re not wrong.

BigBlock440 > crowmolly 04/09/2018 at 13:45

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No, it’s not a cooling thing. Cars don’t make that much more heat, and 75% of the “grille” is blocked off. The actual portion of the grille that’s open to airflow is probably smaller on today’s cars than on old ones for aerodynamics, and a computer being able to tell you when you have enough airflow.

Jason did a good couple of ‘shops to illustrate this.

https://jalopnik.com/cars-without-fake-grilles-1818518076

feather-throttle-not-hair > crowmolly 04/09/2018 at 13:46

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A lot of cars that have this block off much of the grill. I think its more a “well. This makes me look rich, i think” thing.

Chrysler copied Rolls Royce and the rest is history as far as i’m concerned.

But yes, giant grills and Chris Bangle weird body creases are the two styling elements of the modern age that have taken over/ruined car design in the last couple of decades.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 13:47

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I’m gonna go slightly OT and defend Toyota a little here. Caveat - I haven’t seen the new Avalon for sale yet. But the Camry LE/XLE have a similar front end and the way it works in person is fascinating. They are transverse-engine FWD cars, so by their nature they have huge front overhangs. The blacked out lower grill wraps around to the sides of the car and reduces the visual weight of the front of the car. It doesn’t work in pictures, because your can’t really make sense of the curve in two dimensions. I wouldn’t call it pretty, but it does a good job of making the proportions seem much tidier when you see it in person. I suspect the effect will be even more dramatic on the Avalon.

I’m not really sure what Chevy is trying to accomplish here. I did read in the press release that it supposedly allows more air flow to the engine (it wasn’t clear if this was for cooling or the intake, but I was reading quickly). It seems they could’ve done it in a way that looked prettier, though.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 13:50

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Better? No

Better looking? Yeah.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 04/09/2018 at 14:21

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Get that Scion outta here!

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 04/09/2018 at 14:51

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But they STILL won’t put a turbo in the GT86 amirite

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 15:54

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Its just disgusting.

nafsucof > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 16:06

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the previous camaro was actually growing on me and now this. still a ford guy and i do like the refresh on the mustang but yeah chevy went all toyota. didn’t even see this version til now.

nafsucof > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 16:10

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they’re like flow tie? i’ll do you one better! put the flow tie on the big truck and take it off the maro because can only be on one car.

nafsucof > BigBlock440 04/09/2018 at 16:13

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my focus st benefited greatly from opening up the holes in the fake grill to let more air flow through. but i track the car and am big turbo and still need to install my 3 pass radiator and hood vents. but if not for that probably not necessarily needed for daily driving.

nafsucof > nafsucof 04/09/2018 at 18:01

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edit so it is stall apparently a flow tie just in the wrong spot...

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 19:05

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coqui70 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 20:03

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Hmm is it possible to order an RS with the V8?

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/09/2018 at 23:36

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I told myself that I wouldn’t buy a Camaro because the one I’d want would be a 2.0T 1LE and they’d never make that.

Well, now I need to convince my wife that I should have a Camaro...

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/10/2018 at 12:57

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Don’t really want a turbo 4. I had one, and it was interesting, but the V6 is smoother.

V6, manual gearbox, sport/performance options, and weight under 2 tons, and price under 40K...

Pretty much the Camaro or 370Z. And I refuse to even look in the direction of 370Z... it is as much of a practical joke on Nissan customers as the Juke and Cube.

Challenger is over the weight target, Mustang axed it’s V6... sport compacts don’t have V6s either, Porsche and Lotus Evora are over the price target, unless considering used.

I am no GM fan, haven’t been since the 90s, and only liked a few in the 80s.

But I wouldn’t completely refuse a V6 RS 6-speed Camaro convertible, and the new RS nose looks better than the previous one... faint praise perhaps, but still.

Gerry197 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 04/19/2018 at 13:04

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Go to the G6 Camaro site and just about anybody on the forum will agree with you, that blacked out bar makes the 2019 Camaro SS look like a Chevy Malibu.

The 4 and 6 banger models with their body colored section looks at least somewhat similar to the more attractive 2018 front end.

Keylube > BigBlock440 04/19/2018 at 13:06

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That GT350 photoshop is wrong, the far right and left grills have a use for oil cooler and brake ducting for the front brakes.