"KevlarRx7" (kevlarsupra) 03/22/2018 at 13:46 • Filed to: Bike, Uk

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I thought I’d share this for the bike oppo’s, the video belongs to a guy I work with (a bit of nsfw language) who do you think was in the wrong?

valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 13:54

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Clearly both guys are at fault... they were driving on the wrong side of the road!

I actually blame the Rover for letting the Focus through. That behaviour is what creates incidents like this. I understand he was trying to be nice but if he didn’t do that, there’d be no situation.

djmt1 > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 13:56

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Land Rover is in the wrong, they shouldn’t of stopped. Also on the grand scale of British swearing while operating machinery, that was a poor effort.

facw > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 13:56

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I’m not a bike oppo (besides bicycles), but I don’t think the car should have turned right, seems like the car turning left should have right of way (if he was letting the other car in then that was also wrong). I suspect the bike passing the turning car while it’s still in the lane isn’t legal either though.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 13:56

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In my opinion the biker should not have passed the turning car. I don’t think this is a safe overtake.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option 03/22/2018 at 13:57

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yeah the rover has the right of way and shouldnt have slowed to allow the right turn across traffic

Urambo Tauro > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 14:02

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Everyone. One wrong doesn’t make the other parties right.

The Ford driver should have waited until the Rover and bike had passed before turning. The Rover driver should have turned instead of unnecessarily yielding to the Ford and becoming an obstacle for the bike. And the rider shouldn’t be trying to pass when the oncoming lane is occupied.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option 03/22/2018 at 14:03

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good lord we afre al the asame... I was going t make that same joke about all being on the wrong side of the road...

but for real on the Rover being a dick because of the fact that they were too nice. You can ask my wife about it because I complain a lot about people driving too nice around here.

WilliamsSW > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 14:04

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Everyone to some extent!

The Rover is the biggest moron here - stopping was asinine. The silver car should have remained stopped until the bike passed - “failure to yield to oncoming traffic”.

And the cyclist didn’t even seem to slow down- - it would have been his own ass if he hits anything there, regardless of how stupid the other two drivers are.

PartyPooper2012 > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 14:06

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Rover should not have stopped.

Pretending rover saw a bunny and decided to stop for bunny and not the car turning right, biker should have been prepared to stop as well. Who knows why the car ahead is stopping. I have seen roads washed away and bridges gone.

Credit to the biker for keeping his shit together and going around. I would have tried to go around the rover, not the car coming at me and that would have probably been fatal

bob and john > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 14:08

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rover. 100% the rover

bob and john > WilliamsSW 03/22/2018 at 14:09

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sometimes, its better. spend all of your grip tring to turn rather then brake, un balance the bike, making it hard to turn, and messing up there.

Sometimes. Not all the time. But sometimes.

KevlarRx7 > valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option 03/22/2018 at 14:09

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Exactly my thoughts but it seems to be a controversial one.

fintail > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 14:11

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Rover for stopping, biker for maybe not being sure of his ability to stop, or being too close for his ability to stop. I have to imagine had he hit the Rover, he’d be at fault - not exactly a brake check there. Beware when idiots might turn in front of you.

I see Blighty residents whining about bad drivers in other lands, yet cameras from their place sure capture stupid stuff.

Svend > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 14:11

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All bad,

I think the Evoque driver thought the Fiesta was just going to cut them off so hesitated and slowed down too much.

The Fiesta should of stopped on their side till the Evoque and the bike had gone past.

Even if the Evoque did let the Fiesta cross their path deliberately the Fiesta driver should of still held back.

The biker was going to fast to brake adequately after observing the Evoque slow down too excessively as you never over take on a junction even if a car is turning off unless the vehicle is sufficiently off the road that it is no longer overtaking but progressing on your direction.

WilliamsSW > bob and john 03/22/2018 at 14:15

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From about 0:09 or so in, I agree with that - the contact patch can only take so much input.

But it seemed like it should have been slowing down well before that, when the Rover was slowing and had its turn signal on. God knows a lot of people around me take turns too damn slow, and you can’t assume they’ll clear the road ahead of you in time. And hell, there always could be a squirrel in the road that caused the Rover to stop, who knows?

But it’s the Rover driver whose license should be revoked IMHO. Fuck ‘being courteous’ there. It’s ignorant.

Discerning > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 14:34

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The motorcycle should have come to a stop behind the range rover. The range rover shouldn’t have stopped to let the Ford in. If the motorcycle had struck the Ford in the US then the motorcyclist would be at fault. I guess the Ford could maybe be at fault for turning in front of traffic. Idk. But I do know I strongly dislike the people who pull what the range rover pulled.

Cash Rewards > bob and john 03/22/2018 at 14:42

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The Rover didn’t have a good reason to stop, but if he did the result would have been the same. You could see the Rover’s brake lights on for a long time before there was any action from the bike.

Ash78, voting early and often > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 15:01

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100% the bike. I see this every day with cars, but at much lower speeds.

The oncoming car did nothing wrong, he was simply making a right turn and could not have been accountable for a bike performing a dangerous overtaking maneuver.

But in terms of being dangerous, the stopped car directly in front of the bike was being an idiot and helped precipitate the situation.

KevlarRx7 > Ash78, voting early and often 03/22/2018 at 15:08

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But remember the rover in front indicated to turn left and here in the UK he had right of way, so why did the fiesta turn first? And didn’t check to see if it was safe to do so... But honestly I think everyone was a bit in the wrong there, and that road is a bit of fun on a clear morning ;)

OPPOsaurus WRX > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 16:24

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Everyone ws wrong. The Rover, while being nice shouldn’t have been. The car shouldn;t have turned, and the bike shouldn’t have tried blasting past everyone.

Ash78, voting early and often > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 16:27

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I guess I’m just wondering why the rider didn’t slow to a stop behind the Rover. Despite that driver’s erratic decision to stop, it’s never a safe solution to zoom around him. 99% of the time you’re probably fine, but this was just a bad judgment call.

My brother has (twice) rear ended cars that were stopped at yield signs while entering a clear roundabout. Why they stopped, nobody knows, but it still was his fault.

nermal > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 18:02

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Rover should have turned instead of stopped, and Focus should not have cut in front. Bike also should have been able to stop behind the rover.

As with most issues, everybody is wrong, except for me.

TheRealBicycleBuck > KevlarRx7 03/22/2018 at 23:26

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People stopping to allow opposing traffic cross is something that happens all the time in Louisiana. It’s this and other “courtesies” that cause us to have some of the highest insurance rates in the U.S.

Please, PLEASE just follow the rules people!