"Dusty Ventures" (dustyventures) 02/12/2018 at 15:27 • Filed to: None

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I’m not crying, you’re crying!

Ash78, voting early and often > Dusty Ventures 02/12/2018 at 15:44

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This used to be a GNR Chinese Democracy joke :D

Tool has made something since Aenima? /s

aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe > Dusty Ventures 02/12/2018 at 15:55

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it will happen

one day

Dusty Ventures > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe 02/12/2018 at 15:57

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I want to believe

AestheticsInMotion > Ash78, voting early and often 02/12/2018 at 16:07

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Have you heard Slash’s somewhat recent solo albums? They’re goooooood. Anything he does with Miles Kennedy is pure gold

AestheticsInMotion > Dusty Ventures 02/12/2018 at 16:08

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One day we’ll get a new System of a Down album

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Dusty Ventures 02/12/2018 at 16:08

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The next Tool album will be called Loot...

Ash78, voting early and often > AestheticsInMotion 02/12/2018 at 16:35

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Yep, bits and pieces. I rarely say this about a lead guitarist, but being in a big band held him back. I really admire Slash, he has always seemed more focused on his craft that most rock musicians.

AestheticsInMotion > Ash78, voting early and often 02/12/2018 at 16:40

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My thoughts exactly. I always liked Slash, but after seeing him live in Seattle about six years ago I realized he was a lot more of a musician than you’d ever know from G&R’s alone.

Listen to his self-titled album “Slash” from start to finish sometime. It’s one of those rare modern albums that isn’t just a few good songs with a bunch of filler. Hit after hit, with some interesting guests

Dusty Ventures > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 02/12/2018 at 16:40

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“Mihi Opus Maior Est Vineae”

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Dusty Ventures 02/12/2018 at 17:06

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Short story. That’s exactly how it happened.

aquila121 > Dusty Ventures 02/12/2018 at 18:40

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Are you not slightly placated by albums from A Perfect Circle and Pucifer ? I mean, that’s satisfied me just fine, for the most part.

Dusty Ventures > aquila121 02/12/2018 at 19:11

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Oh, the latest offerings from Puscifer and APC have been great, and I’m looking forward to buying the new APC album later this year. But there’s something about Tool and it’s more experimental, progressive feel that I miss. Tracks too long for radio, meandering instrumental sections and abstract solos, Danny Carey’s drumming, math nerdery, unusual time signatures that change within a song. I miss that stuff dammit

*Wipes away a tear and puts on Lateralus*

aquila121 > Dusty Ventures 02/12/2018 at 19:45

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Even though I’m not fully versed on some of those details, I’m sure you make a good point.

Dusty Ventures > aquila121 02/12/2018 at 21:09

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Easiest example to demonstrate is the song Lateralus, which is nearly 10 minutes long. To start, the lead guitar needs to be in Drop-D tuning to play the song. In standard guitar tuning the strings are tuned to play E, A, D, G, B, E. In Drop-D the lowest string is tuned to D instead of E.

I assume you’re familiar with the Fibonacci sequence? Where you add the previous number to the most recent number? 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13 etc? The syllable count in the verses of title track off Lateralus goes up and down the Fibonacci sequence.

Black(1)
Then(1)
White are(2)
All I see(3)
In my infancy(5)
Red then yellow there came to be(8)
Reaching out to me(5)
Lets me see(3)

There is(2)
So(1)
Much(1)
More and(2)
Beckons me(3)
To look through to these(5)
Infinite possibilities(8)

As below so above and beyond I imagine(13)
Drawn outside the lines of reason(8)
Push the envelope(5)
Watch it bend(3)

Taking it even further, the chorus goes from 9/8 time to 8/8 time to 7/8 time. And 987 is the 16th number in the Fibonacci sequence. (Each is also a rarely used time signature)

If you want to really get crazy with the math, the first verse doesn’t start until 1 minute 37 seconds into the song. 1 minute 37 seconds is 1.618 minutes, which is the Golden Ratio, a number which has fascinated mathematicians for over two millennia and appears in everything from anatomy to nature to art to archetecture. Then there’s the fact that the lyrics of the song reference everything from alchemy to North American Aboriginal lore to Summum to Hermeticism and is itself (allegedly) about the human experience and human progression/evolution, from the days of early man to abilities we can’t even currently fathom. Long story short, Lateralus may be the most secretly, deeply nerdy and trippy song ever written.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Dusty Ventures 02/12/2018 at 21:23

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I prefer to take shortcuts

aquila121 > Dusty Ventures 02/12/2018 at 21:52

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All of this went over my head previously, but gives me a newfound appreciation for the layers of the song.