So Consumer Reports is out with their yearly reliability surveys and here are all the highlights

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 10/24/2018 at 17:36 • Filed to: Reliability, consumer reports, unreliable

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10 Most reliable cars is a bunch of Toyotas One Mazda and one Kia. Notable entrants are Miata (It’s always the answer after all), Lexus GX, Honda Fit

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10 least reliable cars - Odyssey, Atlas, Enclave, Silverado 2500, Kia Cadenza (they still sell these?), Traverse, Clarity, ATS (RIP soon), Model X, Ram 3500

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12 models lost the CR “Recommended” Title-

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and on the flip side... Newly Recommended Models With Improved Reliability-

Cadillac XTS , Chevrolet Cruze , Chevrolet Suburban , Chrysler 300 , Dodge Charger , Infiniti QX60 , Lincoln Continental , Mazda CX-9 , Mazda MX-5 Miata , Mini Cooper , Mini Cooper Countryman , Nissan Armada , Nissan Maxima , Subaru Impreza , Volkswagen Golf , and Volkswagen Tiguan .

Most and least reliable brands-

Domestic auto makers such as Tesla Inc. TSLA, and General Motors Co.GM, fell to the bottom half of a reliability ranking by Consumer Reports, with the Silicon Valley car maker down six spots and ranking third worst, the magazine said Wednesday. The Model S, Tesla’s luxury sedan, dropped to “below average” in this year’s ranking, and its overall score is “no longer high enough to be ‘Recommended’ by CR,” the magazine said. Model S owners reported problems related to the car’s suspension and the extending door handle, among others. Tesla’s Model X SUV remained “Much-Worse-Than-Average” for reliability, with ongoing problems including the falcon-wing doors and center display screen, Consumer Reports said. The Model 3 sedan has an “Average” predicted reliability based on owner feedback, it said. Car brands based in Asia, including Toyota Motor Co.’ Lexus and Toyota cars, topped the ranking. European brands Audi, BMW, and Mini rounded the top 10.

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Volvo finished last overall-   members told CR that the XC60 SUV suffered from display screen freezes; problems with the climate system and interior cabin rattles. Complaints were still numerous on the XC90 SUV’s infotainment system, mainly screen freezes and blank display. The S90 sedan shared those problems in addition to complaints about engine knocking or pinging

Sad to see Volvo dead last. I am really liking their new products, hopefully they improve this year onward because I really want to own the new V60 someday in the future.

AestheticsInMotion > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 10/24/2018 at 17:34

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Fake news. Volvo’s are the pinnacle of reliability.

TysMagic > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 10/24/2018 at 17:38

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Well that’s interesting! I went from top 10 most unreliable vehicles with the Fiat to top 10 most reliable. 

Urambo Tauro > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 10/24/2018 at 17:40

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least reliable cars - Silverado 2500

Oh how the mighty have fallen

C62030 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 10/24/2018 at 17:41

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I had no idea they redesigned the Prius C. I think it looks great. Reminds me of the last Fiesta.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > C62030 10/24/2018 at 17:44

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I had to go back and check because my eyes glazed over most of that list LOL. Meh, I feel the new Corolla hatch looks better despite the gaping maw.

Nothing > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 10/24/2018 at 17:53

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It drives me BONKERS that infotainment affects the “reliability” of a vehicle.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Nothing 10/24/2018 at 17:58

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I think it’s fair in some cases, yeah it’s not the same as a transmission/engine or electrical/cooling failure... Failing to pair with Bluetooth every once in a while is fine, but in case of Volvo Sensus or FCA Uconnect where you don’t have physical backups for temperature control/fan speed/heated and cooled seats, a crashed infotainment does indicate that the car is not performing reliably as expected.

Sure, there might be nothing wrong with the physical HVAC controls per se but in this case it is important. I guess it depends on the context.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > AestheticsInMotion 10/24/2018 at 17:59

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Oh I wish it were really fake news this time ...

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Nothing 10/24/2018 at 18:00

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when it is not replaceable with aftermarket, when it is the only way to have key interface points with the vehicle’s operating systems, and even when the vehicle has buttons and dials, the information about the settings that those buttons and dials manipulate, are still tied in to that display screen, if the display fails, the usability of the car suffers.

If it suffers when new, how badly might it suffer when OLDER, and out of warranty?

That is like saying that screen quality and os interface problems shouldn’t affect the effectiveness of a cell phone to make calls, ‘ back in the 20th...’ (century, that is...)

That used to be the case, when a cell phone could be operated like a landline phone, without even considering the screen, because it was just off, on, and dialing. A smartphone with an unreliable screen, may as well be a paperweight.

C62030 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 10/24/2018 at 18:04

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Agree. I just think it’s much more handsome than the average Prius.

for Michigan > Nothing 10/24/2018 at 18:06

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It absolutely does though , practically speaking. In a car where all the HVAC and audio controls, backup camera, navigation, and even interior settings run through that center screen, if it locks up or shuts off, you’re in trouble.

Need to a djust your heat? Nope. Turn on your ventilated leather seats? Nope. See out the back of the car? Nope. Adjust your dash brightness? Nope. The car may still get you from A to B, but if nothing else works, that’s a problem.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 10/24/2018 at 18:31

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The F56 is finally making up for the wrongs of the R56! Huzzah! Minis aren't considered dumpster fires anymore.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > for Michigan 10/24/2018 at 18:37

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This is why touchscreens themselves are a terrible, terrible idea.

They’re hostile to aftermarket modification, are basically one-shot systems with planned obsolescence built right into them, and when they’re the center of vehicle functions, it’s a ticking timebomb as to when the entire thing just craps out and you’re basically forced to buy a new vehicle (if you’re a layman) or hack the living hell of it (if, by that time, someone’s made a r oot exploit for it and there’s software you can install onto it that makes it Not Suck™ .)

Milky > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 10/24/2018 at 19:00

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At least the new stuff all has USB inputs which should work easily  in the future.

Unless like this:

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > Milky 10/24/2018 at 19:01

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That’s a nightmare.

What the hell, Ford.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 10/24/2018 at 19:04

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I would like to think VW made recommended because I blessed them with my presence .

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Milky 10/24/2018 at 19:36

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The fuck?

Milky > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 10/24/2018 at 22:12

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Yes.

Stef Schrader > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 10/24/2018 at 22:18

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Man, the disconnect between longer -term reliability and “press cars I liked” in these surveys really kind of drives home how worked-over press fleet cars are. (Which makes the whole “what was the source of the car in this review?” disclosure so important.)