SCHEIßE (;_;)

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390) 09/16/2015 at 21:37 • Filed to: Save the Porsches

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JUST STOP, FUCKING STOP BEING PROGRESSIVE AND SHIT, PORSCHE.

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FRANKFURT, Germany — !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! has indicated that it is unlikely to develop another manual gearbox for the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

Speaking at a technical presentation for the face-lifted version of the 991 series 911, Thomas Brandl, the engineer responsible for the new engine range, admitted it would be difficult to build a business case for a new manual transmission.

“As long as the gearbox exists, we will use it,” Brandl told Edmunds , “but it would be very difficult to justify the investment needed to develop a new gearbox when little more than 10 percent of buyers choose it.”

He conceded that these customers “continue to want the experience of driving a manual 911,” but that the added sophistication of the alternative PDK gearbox provides “considerable advantages in terms of efficiency.”

Given that the manual gearbox has been engineered to work with the new 3.0-liter twin-turbo engine, it’s not quite in its death throes just yet. These engines will be carried forward into the next-generation 911, due around 2018, which should be on sale until at least 2025.

Damn you modern car market, damn you government, and damn my internal clock timing and timing in general, ruining everything with your time moving forward shit! -_-

So now not only will the N/A market go to hell, the N/A and turbo manual market will go bonkers!! (-___-)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

STEF, THIS IS THE END!!

jkm7680 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 21:40

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I want to go back to 1990.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > jkm7680 09/16/2015 at 21:41

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Fuck that, send me back to 1970.

jkm7680 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 21:46

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But in 1990, early 911 prices....

scoob > jkm7680 09/16/2015 at 21:46

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Inflation

scoob > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 21:47

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Inb4 “YOU KNOW HOW MANY THEY WOULD SELL IF THEY PUT A MANUAL IN THERE?!?!?!?!?!!///////////////////////~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~”

The answer is, as stated above, about 1 out of 10 cars they sell.

For Sweden > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 21:48

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Better buy a 2015 Carerra S while you still can; they’re going to be worth all the cash money.

Sam > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 21:48

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At least you admit they’re being progressive.

I, for one, welcome our new PDK overlords.

Mostly because the manual cars will always be there. Especially with all the speculators preserving their “investment”. And by the time we can afford them, all the speculators will be dead and the prices will be back to normal-ish. If not, you can get the nicest 944 ever made.

71MGBGT Likes Subarus of Unusual Colors > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 21:49

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K-Roll-PorscheTamer > For Sweden 09/16/2015 at 21:51

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I can’t, no hope, screwed and rekt for lyfe. -_-

For Sweden > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 21:52

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Loan.

Seriously, this is an investment that won’t fail.

DoYouEvenShift > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 21:52

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A couple more MYs and they will eliminate the steering wheel as well. Because who wants to drive themselves when Porsche figures out a way to do it for them.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Sam 09/16/2015 at 21:52

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Why would I not say they’re being progressive? Also, enough with this overlord bullshit. Fuck the overloads whoever and whatever the fuck they are!

By the time we can afford them gas prices will be astronomical or we won’t be driving at all.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > For Sweden 09/16/2015 at 21:54

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Mortgage, I’ll live in it if need be.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > DoYouEvenShift 09/16/2015 at 21:54

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I still fucking hate the future. Someone needs to make a time machine so I can get the fuck out of here.

traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 21:54

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The future: One of the worst things about being a car enthusiast.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 09/16/2015 at 21:59

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RIGHT?!? I don’t understand what’s so good about the next couple decades because to me, it all pretty much sucks rhino ass turds.

PushToStart > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 22:03

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Damn, if that’s true, that blows big time. The turbos don’t bother me as much, but the lack of a manual sucks big time. It sucked when Ferrari did it, but it honestly probably made more sense in their case. I would think that while stick 911’s are still a minority, there’d be enough to keep it alive. I guess not.

Oh well, at least they still have the Cayman. They’ll still do a stick for that I’m sure.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PushToStart 09/16/2015 at 22:07

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I don’t even think the Boxster and Cayman will keep it if the 911 doesn’t. Wonderful future huh.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Sam 09/16/2015 at 22:17

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I bet you also welcomed our Ant Overlords too!

bob and john > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 22:17

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turbos i was okay with. i love them./

manual. ehhhhh. that sucks

DoYouEvenShift > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 22:18

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Porsche will make one for you. But it will take you where they want.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 22:18

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Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 09/16/2015 at 22:19

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Yeah... that and the alien invasion...

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 09/16/2015 at 22:21

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If only we could..

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 22:24

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Yes... if only...

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 09/16/2015 at 22:27

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-Everyone, when cranks starts, three on a tree, carburetors, 8-liter engines, manual steering, and manually locking hubs went away at their respective times.

PushToStart > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 22:28

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Ehh, I’d like to think they will. I don’t have numbers to back this up so I may be wrong, but I’d imagine they still sell a reasonable amount of manual Caymans... (Boxsters may be different...)

I think the GT4 and Boxster Spyder was almost an admission from Porsche that the smaller platforms are the better drivers’ cars and I’d be willing to bet they have sales figures to prove that a manual box in each of those models is still marketable and sellable.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 09/16/2015 at 22:28

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......Perhaps there is a way.....

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PushToStart 09/16/2015 at 22:31

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I think they all use the same manual like they all use the same PDK if memory serves me right. I imagine if you kill one off, you might as well kill them all.

Probably reserve it for super limited production cars us peasants won’t be able to ever get our hands on...

Wheelerguy > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 22:53

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This is why we MUST campaign harder than Trump to Save The Manuals.

Textured Soy Protein > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 22:58

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We’ve got...quite a lot of time until manual 911s go away. At least according to your article:

Given that the manual gearbox has been engineered to work with the new 3.0-liter twin-turbo engine, it’s not quite in its death throes just yet. These engines will be carried forward into the next-generation 911, due around 2018, which should be on sale until at least 2025.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Textured Soy Protein 09/16/2015 at 23:01

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Time goes faster than we like to think. Especially as we get older, as I’ve noticed a lot recently.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Wheelerguy 09/16/2015 at 23:02

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If he has the power to end CAFE and regulations and save the manuals, I’ll vote for his ass no matter how bad he is as a politician.

HERE THAT TRUMP? THIS WILL GET EVERY CAR ENTHUSIAST TO VOTE FOR YOU

Textured Soy Protein > jkm7680 09/16/2015 at 23:02

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Most cars actually kinda sucked in 1990.

Textured Soy Protein > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 23:04

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You are experiencing a common feeling for college kids. I just turned 33. Sure, I very easily remember things from when I was 23, but still, that was a good long time ago.

jkm7680 > Textured Soy Protein 09/16/2015 at 23:06

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Point taken and agreed with, but going back in time with the knowledge of which 60’s-80’s cars would skyrocket in value would be nice.

LongbowMkII > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 23:06

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That’s the Oppo spirit!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Textured Soy Protein 09/16/2015 at 23:07

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I hate the feeling. Days feel too short, everything goes by too fast, I forget things I want or have to remember. I can’t handle it.

Wheelerguy > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 23:11

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Oh, really? I’m not counting on it.

We, Opponauts United, must be the ones to do it.

Textured Soy Protein > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 23:11

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What I can tell you from experience is that the first few years of experiencing time passing as an adult feel like they’re going really fast, but that time doesn’t keep speeding up every year. So you kinda get used to the faster progression.

Also, modern cars are still in pretty good shape 10 years into their life, as long as they’re well cared for. Hell, my ’05 Grand Cherokee, with its supposedly miserable mid-’00s Chrysler build quality, is overall pretty solid. Yeah I have to put money into it to maintain it, but hey it was only 10 grand.

PushToStart > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/16/2015 at 23:19

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As much as you don’t want to hear this I’m sure, I’d bet if they did end up killing the manual, it’d be gone for good, a la Ferrari. That said, they’re playing to a different market (especially with the Boxster and Cayman) so the things they take into consideration will be different. All we can do is hope at this point, haha

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PushToStart 09/16/2015 at 23:27

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Wait, isn’t that what I just said? :-/

Textured Soy Protein > jkm7680 09/16/2015 at 23:43

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Actually, the day to remember when you get your time machine is July 3, 1997.

Santiago of Escuderia Boricua > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/17/2015 at 04:57

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GT4? GT4.

PushToStart > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 09/17/2015 at 11:57

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No, what I'm saying is that I think Boxster and Cayman will keep the manual. What I AM saying is that IF (big if) Porsche decides to kill all manuals, then there will definitely be no more. You mentioned something about them being offered in a limited production car, but I doubt that. If they're done, they're done. But I think the likelihood of that event is small.