Is the 2002 745i more or less reliable than my 2004 Range Rover?

"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
08/27/2015 at 17:58 • Filed to: None

Genuine question, every forum/car site says that you shouldn’t even poke it with a long stick (no ugly stick jokes pleeees), is it that bad? Or is it just a little less reliable than what one would expect from a BMW?

DISCUSSION (21)

Textured Soy Protein > My citroen won't start
08/27/2015 at 18:01

It is more reliable than a 2002 760Li.

RallyWrench > My citroen won't start
08/27/2015 at 18:04

That is the worst car BMW, and possibly Germany, has ever built. One of the few vehicles eclipsed in reliability by a decade old Range Rover. I’m not kidding, that’s my professional advice.

My citroen won't start > RallyWrench
08/27/2015 at 18:05

Why is it so bad?

My citroen won't start > Textured Soy Protein
08/27/2015 at 18:05

Good Point.

RallyWrench > My citroen won't start
08/27/2015 at 18:23

All of the things. The engines are prone to valve guide wear and smoking before 100k, the PCV systems are in a constant state of failure due to high crankcase pressure from the valve guides, the cooling system is made of hopes and dreams, the transmissions routinely fail before 120k, that generation of I-drive is like the Kinja of automotive user interfaces, the electronics are maddening, the paint is terrible, the trim falls off and peels, water leaks into the cabin are an issue, the active suspension and steering are problematic (try this phrase on: “sway bar leak”. Sounds made up, right? Nope. ), they consume batteries with alarming speed, etc, etc. They are made to be thrown away by 80k. Absolute shit.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > My citroen won't start
08/27/2015 at 18:24

Great cars if you don’t mind and have the time to dedicate to the constant cascade of pin-prick problems you will experience. My neighbor had one and was working on it constantly.

My citroen won't start > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast.
08/27/2015 at 18:26

That doesn’t sound real good.

My citroen won't start > RallyWrench
08/27/2015 at 18:27

So what if I find one with less than 50k miles? Would I have the little random issues or would the wear items also fail thanks to its age?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > My citroen won't start
08/27/2015 at 18:39

No.

Just no.

These have to be in the top 10 worst (and ugliest) cars to ever come out of Germany.

My citroen won't start > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/27/2015 at 18:40

I actually quite like it, the interior not so much, but I love this 7 series.

RallyWrench > My citroen won't start
08/27/2015 at 18:45

Both. If mileage doesn’t get you atrophy will. There is no upside with these.

My citroen won't start > RallyWrench
08/27/2015 at 18:47

That’s the reason why most of them are cheap then.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > My citroen won't start
08/27/2015 at 18:50

Good thing because 85% of the time (on a good day) it’ll be nothing more than a driveway ornament.

RallyWrench > My citroen won't start
08/27/2015 at 18:50

Yes. Nothing depreciates like a German luxury flagship, and this is the poster child. The E38 is an immeasurably better car, and is commensurately worth more.

My citroen won't start > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/27/2015 at 18:52

A VERY LARGE paper weight.

jkm7680 > My citroen won't start
08/27/2015 at 18:52

No bueno. I always did like the styling though.

My citroen won't start > jkm7680
08/27/2015 at 18:53

What I figured, found some (2) low mileage ones and started dreaming as I often do. Really like the styling, but too unreliable, even for me.

TheNeonDriver - Now with More BMW! > My citroen won't start
08/27/2015 at 21:07

Water cooled alternators.

Nope.

My citroen won't start > TheNeonDriver - Now with More BMW!
08/27/2015 at 21:09

Oh, that gives me a fuzzy feeling in my heart. I NEED WATER COOLED ALTERNATORS.

Trevor Slattery, ACTOR > TheNeonDriver - Now with More BMW!
08/27/2015 at 21:36

No they did not? Really?

TheNeonDriver - Now with More BMW! > Trevor Slattery, ACTOR
08/28/2015 at 00:30

Oh yeah. BMW went there. Water and electricity, nothing could possibly go wrong there.
Well, more like nothing could make it a larger pain in the ass to replace.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthr…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alternator…