Such Optimism

"JR1" (type35bugatti) 08/10/2015 at 21:14 • Filed to: Talking to myself

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We were innovators, visionaries, and champions. Rocketing ourselves into a Jetson style future. Now we talk about post apocalyptic earths every year in a new disaster movie. Why did it all have to change?

TheOnelectronic > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:18

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You mean why were we obsessed with the future when it seemed likely we’d have none, and love the apocalypse when things are going comparatively quite well?

It’s just escapism. People will always want to imagine a world different than the one they inhabit.

JR1 > TheOnelectronic 08/10/2015 at 21:19

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That is an excellant point.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:20

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The early 2000’s

JR1 > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 08/10/2015 at 21:22

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I said why not when but that is an accurate assumption of when. However I was too busy eating cereal, playing NFSHP2, worrying about fractions to notice the difference

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:23

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It is also why

ttyymmnn > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:23

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I blame the military industrial complex.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:24

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Ignorance is bliss.

We still are innovators, visionaries, and champions, but we don’t glorify the accomplishments of our engineers and scientists like we did then.

ttyymmnn > TheOnelectronic 08/10/2015 at 21:24

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I think there is an interesting parallel there in pop music. Generally speaking, when the world is in the dumper, pop music is catchy and uplifting. When things are going pretty good, music is dark and depressing. Must be some sort of Yin/Yang, balance of the Force sort of thing.

coqui70 > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:25

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Filthy Hippies and Godless Communists.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:25

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WOHO.. 1948 Cadillac :)

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:27

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There was a severe depression, and after lots of government spending due to what could easily have become an apocalypse. Then a massive boom of prosperity. That was ~60 years ago. Since then, society has been moving from one disaster to the next, and all the bubbles of prosperity have only lived long enough to collapse.

Alternatively, “advanced” technology is mainstream enough that these sorts of fantasies aren’t all that amazing.

Effef > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:27

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Because rose tinted glasses. The past always looks better than the future when you only remember the things you want to remember.

JR1 > ttyymmnn 08/10/2015 at 21:31

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So did Esienhower. The funny part is he expanded it and relied on his military scientist quite a bit.

JR1 > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 08/10/2015 at 21:32

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That is so true and also incredibly sad.

JR1 > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 21:32

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One of my absolute favorites.

JR1 > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee 08/10/2015 at 21:33

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I like the alternative

JR1 > Effef 08/10/2015 at 21:35

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Really 1948 was quite a bad year the soviets finally tested a bomb. And only 9 years later they would beat the U.S. to space

wafflesnfalafel > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:35

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We took on two of the most “evil” organizations in the history of humanity at the same time and won - we were full of swagger. Anything was possible.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:38

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Same here, lower it on bags, flake paint on the roof and you’re golden :)

JR1 > wafflesnfalafel 08/10/2015 at 21:39

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And good triumphs over evil!

JR1 > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 21:41

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I can appreciate people who do that and I find it quite beautiful. However I would rather keep it stock

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:43

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I would not mind a stock one for sure. But I actually prefer the ‘53 models if we’re talking stock :)

ttyymmnn > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:44

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My answer wasn’t entirely serious, but having read the Wiki article on the Military-Industrial Complex, there might be something to it. It seems like up until WWI, after a war, people went back to being “not at war.” But since WWI, then WWII, then the Cold War, etc., the nations of the world have been constantly arming themselves with ever more powerful and sophisticated weaponry. It’s hard to feel optimistic when it’s so easy to kill so many people in one stroke, and we feel like we are constantly at war with somebody.

JR1 > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 21:48

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Longer, wider, lower. Harley Earls mantra

JR1 > ttyymmnn 08/10/2015 at 21:50

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You just described my college Cold War class

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:51

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A friend of mine had a 1955 Caddy lowrider some years back..

Only picture I could find right now.

JR1 > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 21:53

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Those rims are massive

ly2v8-Brian > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 21:54

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Hell yeah.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > JR1 08/10/2015 at 21:57

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Stock Cadillac rims mate, white paint on the tires :P

THESE rims are massive.. That’s his current car.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > coqui70 08/10/2015 at 22:27

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Hey there Nixon

ttyymmnn > JR1 08/10/2015 at 22:52

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Looks like I should start teaching history.

JR1 > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 23:01

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Ha small world that's my car too but I am about to sell it

orcim > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 08/11/2015 at 04:31

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Glorify? We (most) don’t even listen to them, now. And when I take apart a high end doodad and note that it’s constructed with the same parts/quality as a low end one, what am I supposed to think about that? Hard to glorify it for sure.

Manic Otti > JR1 08/11/2015 at 17:53

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It’s still like that, but only for the 1%.

JR1 > Manic Otti 08/11/2015 at 18:06

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I don't agree. Anyone can make a living for themselves if they work hard enough and put in the effort. However with the emotions of this country I could see how you feel that way.