Time for my Oppofesion...

"FKA-RacecaR" (FKA-RacecaR)
07/30/2015 at 15:30 • Filed to: None

I feel this is a safe place, so I’m going to let it out.

I do not like the BRZ/FRS/GT86. I just don’t. I was kind of excited for them at first. But now when I see one on the road, it just makes me think of this....

...or one of these...

It just seems like a boy racer car to me. I know there are some on here that own/have owned one. But hey, I don’t make your car payment, so why does my opinion matter, right?

Whew, now I feel better. Thanks for listening!

DAMN YOU KINJA FOR MOVING MY PICTURES AND TEXT ALL AROUND AND MAKING MY POST ALL WONKY!

DISCUSSION (40)

Saracen > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 15:32

I drove one. Power is decent, but the steering and chassis are pure magic. I understand it now. I want to buy used one and turn it into a dedicated track car.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 15:33

Drive one yet? I had absolutely zero interest in buying a two door, two seat (the back seats truly are absolutely useless), four cylinder sports car. Now a BRZ is my daily.

El Rivinado > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 15:33

Can I tell you something? I agree. I have two of these in my neighborhood, and I just can't get into them every time I look at them.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 15:34

I don't think the looks are aging well but the car itself still appeals to me.

FKA-RacecaR > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
07/30/2015 at 15:36

I kind of figured that would sway me a little. But still...it just does not look appealing to me at all.

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 15:39

So what?

BRZDriver86 > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 15:41

I mean, everyone has an opinion. Yours just happens to be wrong.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 15:44

It definitely has the boy racer image.

The FR-S/BRZ crowd is probably the thing I like least about owning one. The majority of owners make us all look bad. However, once you get it into any racing environment (autocross or track) you will realize how great of a package it really is. Toyota and Subaru have definitely recaptured what made so many Japanese sports cars in the 70s, 80s, and 90s fantastic. Light, RWD, excellent handling, and a truly connected feeling to the car.

The article Patrick wrote about it, where he basically said that when you drive one you neither get it or you don’t, was 100% correct.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 15:51

I honestly thought the 86 twins were great cars but would have mediocre interiors and ricey looks. But after riding in one for a bit and getting up and close to one in a very good color, my opinion definitely changed. It's definitely one of my favorite new cars out there. That lava orange for the FRS and world rally blue on the BRZ are just gorgeous.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Saracen
07/30/2015 at 15:53

I will be a great 3rd owner of an FRS/BRZ someday lol. I think it would be a much better option than a Miata as a dedicated track car. Much easier to just have a roof for that!

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > El Rivinado
07/30/2015 at 15:54

Are they in silver or black? Those colors are just nothing special on that car. The red, blue, and orange ones are the bomb.

El Rivinado > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
07/30/2015 at 15:55

I think both are in black.

Forgetful > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 16:00

Two years of ownership and I love mine more than ever.

It’s really fun to drive if you actually know how to enjoy a car beyond just mashing the go pedal.

It’s a great daily driver for a single city dweller like myself.

It has been bulletproof for reliability.

It gets good mileage

It’s a good looking car, and that’s not just my opinion, but is reinforced by the comments strangers make about it on a fairly consistent basis.

It’s the perfect car for autocross because it’s RWD, manual, and not overpowered, and it’s competitive in the classes or qualifies for.

It’s a great platform for tuning, with great aftermarket support. If the car isn't quite what you want, you can make it so. 250hp, 300, 400, rumours of up to 600hp on stock internals. Or swap it if you want.

Leon711 > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
07/30/2015 at 16:01

I look at it and think, yeah but the roof goes down on an mx5 and it’s easily as fun.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
07/30/2015 at 16:01

I still disagree on the back seats being useless. I sat in the back along with a car seat for over an hour, and it wasn’t that bad. I was 6’ and 245ish at the time, so I’m not a small person.

HammerheadFistpunch > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 16:11

The GTS was a pretty great little car for its day as was the original TC, but the 86 leaves them behind in general philosophy and spirit. its okay to not like them though.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
07/30/2015 at 16:19

Try sitting back there when I’m driving ;) Unless you have knees that fold backwards you will be in for a bad time.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
07/30/2015 at 16:21

If they had made a shooting brake version I probably would have gotten one, I just need at least a little practicality, even though the FiST is hardly the most spacious of vehicles...

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 16:23

The rims that they decided to ship them with are probably the worst aspect of that car, why they couldn’t have thrown on a decent looking wheel I’ll never understand, much as I don’t understand people who don’t instantly replace them with a better style.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Leon711
07/30/2015 at 16:25

Ha yeah this is a good point, I could see my wife enjoying a ND Miata far mor as a second car than the twins, as a convertible is just so nice for weekend getaways.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 16:45

Okay. Please elaborate on what you do like.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Leon711
07/30/2015 at 16:48

The MX5 is a bit less practical though. Having back seats is essential for me, even if they are painfully uncomfortable.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
07/30/2015 at 16:51

My cousin was driving who is also 6’, and adjusted forward he had enough room to shift and drive comfortably.

wiffleballtony > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 16:58

I like that they exist. However I wouldn’t buy one. To me it feels like it’s 5k too expensive and needs another 5k in upgrades in wheel and tire area to be competitive.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
07/30/2015 at 17:02

I agree, the red looks fantastic. ;)

Kinja'd!!!

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
07/30/2015 at 17:07

Honestly, I don’t mind the stock wheels that much. They aren’t great, but I don’t think they’re as terrible as everyone says. In fact, I almost prefer to see them on a the car over another FR-S/BRZ rolling around on RPF1s (unless it’s racing) or 57DRs. I swear, everyone has those two wheels or something by XXR or Rota. -_-

RustedSprinter > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
07/30/2015 at 17:13

What color BRZ?

Leon711 > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
07/30/2015 at 17:29

I ran an NB for three years as my daily, through british winters and can categorically say I wouldn’t have had more fun in the twins, cold nights and early morning top down runs are bracing and fun. It also adds to the experience having the wind in your hair and you are able to hear the peppy engine better.

Leon711 > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
07/30/2015 at 17:32

Second/weekend car, failing that I owned a mx5 as my only car for three years and coped fine, it was a bit annoying sometimes only having two seats but it was a blessing other times. but they can be surprising practical at lugging stuff.

CaptDale - is secretly British > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 18:01

We have a BRZ on the lot and I wish I could buy it!!!

FKA-RacecaR > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
07/30/2015 at 19:03

Lots of things. 1st gen DSMs. RX7s. Supras. 3kGTs. Celica get-4s. Big body JDM sedans. Evos. Jaaaaags. Aston Martins. 3rd gen mirage/colt hatchbacks. TA27 Celicas. 200sx. 240sx. GTRs. Skylines. Hyundai Genesis coupes. NSXs. Acura TL type S. Teslas.

And many many more.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > RustedSprinter
07/30/2015 at 21:05

WRB

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > FKA-RacecaR
07/30/2015 at 21:12

Right...

Because hardly any of those you listed are any less boy-racer than the FBRSZ?

Go drive one. Then if you don’t like it, you can say you didn’t like the way it drove. Saying you think it’s trying too hard isn’t really valid criticism.

RustedSprinter > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
07/30/2015 at 21:17

Niiiice. post some pics!

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > RustedSprinter
07/31/2015 at 07:45

Kinja'd!!!

FazeRacer > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
08/24/2015 at 10:56

Same, I’ll buy one in a few years, throw a turbo on it, and drive the hell out of it.

Tripper > FKA-RacecaR
08/24/2015 at 11:03

The only one that I have been in had 12k in upgrades including a supercharger and it was fantastic. However, it was barely usable as a DD. Before it had the upgrades it was still fun, but you have to be able to appreciate “slow car fast” driving.

PunjabiSexMachine > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
07/13/2016 at 23:26

Kinja'd!!!

I run mine with E30 BMW wheels.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > PunjabiSexMachine
07/14/2016 at 09:01

Are those the Apex Arc-8s? I really like the way they look on these cars.

PunjabiSexMachine > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
07/15/2016 at 10:51

They are, they are basically a perfect fit on these cars. Only come in 17x9 but they look awesome in larger sizes

Kinja'd!!!