"450X_FTW" (mistermic)
07/20/2015 at 11:18 • Filed to: None
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"450X_FTW" (mistermic)
07/20/2015 at 11:18 • Filed to: None | 5
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I think I have found the worst drivers, per capita, based on vehicle.
It’s not this
Nope not this either
It’s this. Commercial vans (almost always white in color) with ladders on the roof. I rarely, if ever, see one of these being driven by a person NOT on the phone, which explains there constant swaying back and forth from edge to edge of their lane. It’s also pretty difficult to check blind spots when you have no windows on the side, and probably just as difficult to see what’s behind you when your rear windows are covered.
Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 11:21 |
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Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 11:22 |
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Fleet vehicle? I agree. Personally owned? about as hit and miss as everything else.
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450X_FTW
> Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
07/20/2015 at 11:24 |
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Hence why I made sure to put “commercial van” in there. #notallvans
SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 11:24 |
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Work trucks are pretty bad, but they’re also predictable. You
know
that they’re going to be in the passing lane doing five under while bouncing back and forth between clients on the phone. With the Lexus RX driver, it’s a crapshoot. They could go anywhere at any time.
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Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 11:26 |
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Personally owned, as in one-man-band contractor. It isn’t a fleet vehicle, but it’s still commercial.
georgechristensen
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 11:27 |
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The worst drivers are the people who judge other people based on what they drive and not how they are driven.
ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 11:28 |
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While true, you try working as a sub-contractor for a shitty mega-corp who takes every opportunity available to screw you over for the work they have you doing.
Spend too long at a job? That’s money out of your paycheck. And now you have to get yelled at by dispatch on your drive to the next job because you took too long and can’t fit that last appointment into your day.
Need to order parts for solve the issue? You have to pay for them.
I’m guessing of course, but I suspect I am not far from the truth. Why else would we have so many horror stories about cable company techs? I imagine it’s like a big game of hot-potato, where the techs no exactly what is wrong with your installation, but don’t want to be dicked over so they pass it along until someone gets stuck with it.
O[][][][][][][]O ™
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 11:28 |
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I think you’re onto something. From what I see commuting, the driving ability (or lack thereof) is directly related to how poor of condition the van is in. Basically, the shittiest old E-series van will be the one either hogging the fast lane or weaving in and out of traffic at dangerous speeds. Bonus points if the back doors are held closed with bungee cords and they don’t turn their lights on when it’s raining.
EL_ULY
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 11:29 |
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breaking news: Commercial Vans are not enthusiast vehicles
I’ve driven them often. Not too difficult to drive.
They are driven by people busting ass making an honest living, usually out in the heat. I know a bunch of subcontractors busting ass every damn day in their van. It’s their office and work horse. I salute those people. Busting ass our on these shitty roads and climate.
Like EVERY VEHICLE!, some pilots are on the phone and driving bad. Just like ALL cars. Just because you are an enthusiast in a high tech euro box, it doesn’t make you immuse to ass-hattery.
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Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
> SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
07/20/2015 at 11:32 |
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I would change that to “you can tell what they will do based on their proir behaviour”. You have the van drivers you describe, and you have the ones coming up behind you at roughly mach 3, the ones who travel at an average distance of 3mm from the guy in front etc.
Second the Lexus point. Just because they have so far exhibited some semblance of competence is no guarantee of its continuation. The half-life of an average Lexus drivers driving ability is about 30 seconds
kanadanmajava1
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 11:37 |
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Yes I agree. Most unexperinced van driver’s manage to hit thing because they aren’t used to sitting nearly front axle. So they think that if a driver has passed an object you can immediately turn around it. But at point most of the vehicle is still behind the object.
When I was visting US I was surprised by the “ladder vans”. In Finland doing any (occupational) work on ladders is prohibited. You can only use them for climbing to the actually work site. With platform ladders you can do work in up to 3 meters.
So here ladders are nearly useless and no-one carries them on top of vans.
jkm7680
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 11:41 |
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The smashed up older ones are usually driven pretty horribly, the newer fleet owned ones seem to drive a bit better.
BKosher84
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 12:09 |
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Every single morning to work I have to deal with this contractor guy that drives one of these things. He normally ends up behind me and apparently me going to speed limit is never fast enough because he flies up on me and then passes me (whatever) but the thing that gets me is one mile later he turns into the Home Depot parking lot and gets to the intersection about three seconds before me.. I guess that threes seconds means something.
edu-petrolhead
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 12:10 |
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Fleet Fiat Milles in Brazil. ALL phone/cable/internet companies bought these cars because they were dirt cheap. Obviously, as fleet cars, they’re driven absolutely recklessly.
A Fiat Mille weighs around 900 kg, and the fleet version has a 1.3l engine, which is very powerful for the nimbleness of the car. These are the only things that can be seen being driven at 150 km/h in rush hours.
There is a recurrent joke in Brazilian car forums/blogs that the combination of phone/cable/net stickers and stairs on roof adds a lot of hp to the car. F1 needs this advanced technology.
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450X_FTW
> kanadanmajava1
07/20/2015 at 12:12 |
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So you have to use scaffolding to paint the side of a house? can’t paint directly from the ladder?
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450X_FTW
> O[][][][][][][]O ™
07/20/2015 at 12:13 |
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If it’s older, it’s either bungee cords or a massive padlock
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450X_FTW
> georgechristensen
07/20/2015 at 12:15 |
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I am basing it how they drive, where the majority of the ones I’ve seen are driven without care or knowledge that are cars are around them.
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450X_FTW
> edu-petrolhead
07/20/2015 at 12:15 |
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ladder looks twice as long as the car is
thebigbossyboss
> kanadanmajava1
07/20/2015 at 12:22 |
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“In Finland doing any (occupational) work on ladders is prohibited.”
HAHAHAHAHA what? Really?
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thebigbossyboss
> georgechristensen
07/20/2015 at 12:22 |
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Nah. I disagree.
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thebigbossyboss
> edu-petrolhead
07/20/2015 at 12:23 |
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The cable co stickers add a lot of FP to the cars....ha.
deekster_caddy
> Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
07/20/2015 at 12:44 |
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It’s the ones that always go Mach 3 that scare me. The others are just annoying. I talked to a contractor who said he was always going to go 85 in his van no matter how much the company complained about gas - he wasn’t getting paid the travel time and was trying to save us money. Many of those companies charge $100/hr for travel time... so WTF.
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deekster_caddy
> O[][][][][][][]O ™
07/20/2015 at 12:45 |
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Don’t forget plywood or a sheet of plastic over one rear window...
B/Xmrrmvr
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 12:59 |
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Private Garbage Truck drivers in NYC literally do not follow any traffic laws whatsoever and they don’t get in trouble for it (e.g. driving on the wrong side of the road, running reds, nearly running people over, ACTUALLY running people over).
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450X_FTW
> B/Xmrrmvr
07/20/2015 at 13:15 |
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So damn glad I don’t live in that state
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kanadanmajava1
> thebigbossyboss
07/20/2015 at 14:53 |
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Yes. Ladders are just a way to go to the work site. I think that there was some exception that lifting hooks or straps could be attached using ladders. So no painting, hammering, bulb changing etc on ladders.
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kanadanmajava1
> 450X_FTW
07/20/2015 at 14:56 |
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Yes, scaffolding is usually the easiest and cheapest method. You can of course paint your own house on ladders as the prohibition is only occupational work safety thing.
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thebigbossyboss
> kanadanmajava1
07/20/2015 at 15:34 |
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Oh I see. Here in Canada, I spent many an hour on a ladder doing all sorts of work things.
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kanadanmajava1
> thebigbossyboss
07/20/2015 at 15:45 |
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I have no idea where our ladder ban comes from. I guess there was some series of nasty accidents and public pushed to prohibit working on ladder.
In my former workplace the safety supervisor of the building managed to fall from ladders in his free time. He did some house renovating work quite high up and broke his pelvis quite badly. He was away from the work for several months. But at least it wasn’t work related accident...
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thebigbossyboss
> kanadanmajava1
07/20/2015 at 15:57 |
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Well ladder safety is important no doubt. I used to do all sorts of work at really big heights on the side of buildings. I had more close calls than I care to recount. Especially the one time I was standing one foot on a step ladder, one foot on a window ledge (with the window removed). I am wearing a harness, I look over and my safety clip is upside down.
This mean rather than fall out of the window and have my clamp clamp onto the rope, I would fall and it would release and thus I would fall 190 feet (19 floors) and splat on the side walk.
Yikes.
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kanadanmajava1
> thebigbossyboss
07/20/2015 at 16:35 |
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Oh! That sounds pretty scary. Our whole country has only four buildings that have at least 19 floors above ground.
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thebigbossyboss
> kanadanmajava1
07/20/2015 at 17:00 |
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Oh wow. I tried to find a comparable number for canada, but couldn’t. We have many, there are 90 buildings over 40 floors high. We have this big country and we all live in the same space haha. The rest is too cold :)
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kanadanmajava1
> thebigbossyboss
07/20/2015 at 17:46 |
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In Finland the majority of population is gathered around certain big cities. But the rest are quite well scattered all around the country. The most northern areas are quite empty but even there there are reindeer herders.
I visited Montreal and Vancouver in last December and noticed that there is huge number of really tall buildings. I couldn’t figure out how the tall buildings in Montreal don’t kill hundreds of people by dropping ice and snow to the sidewalks. Even our low buildings take life or two yearly.
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deekster_caddy
> O[][][][][][][]O ™
07/21/2015 at 10:36 |
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Just because it’s funny, this was weaving all around next to me this morning, hogging the fast lane... (sorry about the blurry pic)
Note the plywood special window, dents and ‘former fleet vehicle’ markings on the side...