Eight Things You Didn't Know About the Porsche Carrera GT

"Matt Kirsch" (makirsch) 07/19/2015 at 12:05 • Filed to: None

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While the Porsche 918 Spyder is all the rage these days, we must not forget about its hybrid-less predecessor, the Carrera GT. The Carrera GT features a screaming 612-hp 5.7L V10 and a good old fashioned 6-speed manual transmission, but you already knew that. Here are eight things you didn’t know about the Carrera GT.

1. It seems impossible that Porsche, the automaker who currently makes more profit per vehicle than any other, once experienced financial struggles. During the early 2000s, Porsche was hurting badly. In an effort to save the company, they reduced their motorsports program to fund and engineer the Cayenne to appeal to a wider market. Porsche got a lot of grief from purists when the Cayenne was introduced in 2002. However, it’s pretty safe to say that the Carrera GT would not be here if it wasn’t for that two-ton family SUV. With money to burn thanks to the Cayenne, Porsche found use for a failure of a Le Mans-built V10 and released the Carrera GT. That V10 has a fascinating history. Read about it !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

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2. The Carrera GT has one of the most notoriously difficult clutches of any production car. Search YouTube and you will have no trouble finding videos of valet drivers and owners alike stalling their Carrera GTs. Much of the blame lands on the world’s first production !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! clutch or PCCC (Porsche Carbon Ceramic Clutch). There is, however, a trick to avoid stalling. Porsche built the Carrera GT with auto-throttle to aid in starts. Though counterintuitive, drivers should not apply throttle during starts. Rather, they should slowly release the clutch and only apply throttle when rolling with the clutch fully released.

3. The standard Carrera GT shift knob is made of !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! to pay homage to the balsa wood shift knob used in the 917. The wood is lighter than aluminum and does not conduct drivetrain heat like most metals. This was especially important to 917 drivers, as there were issues with shift knobs !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! with conventional materials. The Carrera GT was offered with an optional carbon fiber shift knob in its second year of production.

4. If you look closely, you will notice that the Carrera GT’s center lock nuts are red on the driver’s side and blue on the passenger’s side. Porsche !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! them to ensure that there is no mistake as to what side hub the nut goes on. This is especially important considering one set has right-handed threads and the other has left-handed threads.

5. The Carrera GT is the first production car to utilize a carbon fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP) monocoque chassis. Its chassis is based on the architecture of the 24 Hours of Le Mans-winning !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and weighs just over 220 pounds. Don’t let the weight fool you. Porsche claims the roofless Carrera GT to be stiffer than a caged !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

6. Carrera GT !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! are steep. An oil change will run around $1,200. A new alternator costs $2,400. New tires, recommended to be replaced at least every four years, run roughly $2,500. A new windshield is $9,000. A new clutch costs just over $20,000. The 30,000 mile service is the real killer at around $30,000. I guess it could be worse. At least Carrera GT owners don’t have to deal with !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! annual maintenance costs like Veyron owners.

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7. The name, “ !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! ,” had been used by Porsche before, though never on its own. The 356 A (and B) Carrera GT and 924 Carrera GT preceded the Carrera GT.

8. Production of the Carrera GT began in early 2004. Initially, 500 examples were to be produced. That number was increased to 1,000, and again to 1,500 after unexpected demand. Unfortunately, production was cut short in May of 2006 when stricter US !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! were introduced. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! Carrera GTs were made in total.

From the motorsports-derived V10 to the CFRP chassis, the Carrera GT is truly something special. As we find ourselves in the midst of a hybrid-aided horsepower war among current hypercars, let’s not forget one of the most extreme Porsches ever made - the Carrera GT.

Photo Credit: Porsche/Serious Wheels, Maxted-Page

macanamera > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 11:16

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I’ll bet cacoalminer could tell you even more things about the CGT that you didn’t know. He is exceptionally knowledgeable on the subject.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 11:22

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I hear Paul Walker says it’s a killer ride...

#toosoon #tunanocrust #rememberthebuster

:'(

dogisbadob > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 11:27

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Why the fuck would they do that? Left-handed threads are stupid. Even Chrysler stopped using them in the 60s. Could you imagine the shit they;d get if they still did that today?

Clown Shoe Pilot > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 11:35

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Probably has something to do w/ the left side wheels rotating counterclockwise and the right side rotating clockwise. If you use RH threads on both sides, one side could loosen during driving and that could be bad. See also: lock wire patterns to that only pull fasteners tighter.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 11:39

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Is it sad that the only thing I took away from this article is that I now really want a 924 Carrera GT

NonDriftingS13 > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 12:07

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And this right here is one of my top 5 dream cars! Thanks for sharing!

GhostZ > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 13:08

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I’m going to assume that the McLaren F1 (100) doesn’t count here? The F40 also was made in more numbers, but I’m not sure if the chassis was CFRP or just the body panels.

GhostZ > macanamera 07/19/2015 at 13:11

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And I’m pretty sure if your cornered one, a Carerra GT would tell us intimate facts about cacoalminer too.

jjhats > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 13:11

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I would love to drive one of these just to try that clutch out. It sounds complicated and I can't imagine it knows to rev it up high when on a hill to avoid stalling. Plus I don't think it would be able to launch quick without a big rev

Frank Grimes > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 13:13

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Thanks for a cool article. When I first saw it I was all prideful and like “Dude I already know it has a wood shift knob!” I don’t know why anyone would order it with anything else.

dannymac63 > GhostZ 07/19/2015 at 14:59

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RP is the key part here. I don’t believe the first-ever production car carbon fibre monocoque of the F1 utilized reinforcing plastics.

Andrew X. Rarey > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 16:10

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Yea, they don’t want the nuts to back off on one side. When you have only 1 nut, that’s important. Duh.

I'm Abe Froman > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 16:15

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My assumption is Porsche engineers know what they are doing in this situation and you don’t.

nrj > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 07/19/2015 at 16:22

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(unless you follow the tire replacement schedule)

tommyscooter > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 16:22

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Can never afford such a car and that is all I need to know.

bobrayner > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 16:24

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Using threaded fittings for joints that are torqued can save a lot of weight and complexity (compared to having separate off-centre nuts and bolts) - but only if the direction of the thread allows the fitting to be self-tightening.

Ever seen a bike pedal?

nrj > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 07/19/2015 at 16:25

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I was lusting after one about 10-15 years ago, but they are rare. And the later 944 turbo is a better vehicle in every way save uniqueness.

Doppelkupplung > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 16:26

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And who has the engineering degree, again?

Doppelkupplung > GhostZ 07/19/2015 at 16:28

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Didn’t the F40 use Kevlar?

Fuel_of_Satan > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 16:28

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You had me at V10.

I like racing engines in street cars. Particularly when it quite obviously compromises comfort, driveability and even reliability. One of these, an E60 M5 wagon and a RAM SRT-10 should cover every need I'll ever have.

Fuel_of_Satan > GhostZ 07/19/2015 at 16:31

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The F40 had a steel tube chassis with carbon, Kevlar and aluminium bodywork (And floorpan) bolted to it. Old school.

TheChafing > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 16:35

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You’ll notice that it only has a single nut in the center of the hub, not five or six bolts like a typical german car.

They need the left handed threads to keep the nuts from backing off.

smalleyxb122 > dannymac63 07/19/2015 at 16:36

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Carbon fiber and carbon fiber reinforced plastic are, in the context of car parts, synonymous. The “plastic” refers to the resin used in making carbon fiber parts.

427zeo6 > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 16:40

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They are center lock wheels, the reverse threads are used to insure if the center nut is a little loose it will tend to tighten during normal driving forces....this is true of most center lock or knock off wheel systems.

L80GAGA > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 16:44

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They threads are left handed because the carrera GT only has 1 lugnut in the center and if the lugnut was right handed on that side of the car the wheels turning in the forward direction could cause it to loosen. Militar vehicles use lefthanded lugnuts because they are safer over all but car companies don’t want to get sued by mechanics and people stripping their lugnuts.

BansheeNorn > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 16:53

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the color-coded nuts are new info to me. nice!

UncleTanTan > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 16:53

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Thank you so much for posting this. I LOVE this car, and have since I laid eyes on it. How fascinating the amount of detail that was put into this wonderful machine.

lonestranger > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 16:53

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The left=red/right=blue center lock nuts aren’t specific to the Carrera GT, or Porsche for that matter. It’s quite common to use both left- and right-hand threaded nuts on opposite sides of the same car.

tobythesandwich > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 07/19/2015 at 16:56

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To be fair, all the improvements on the 924 Carrera GT went on to underpin the 944. There is a cool factor about them. But the 944 is definitely the better version to have. Even in Turboooo.

Hysterical Raisins > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 17:00

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Because that’s how centerlock wheels work.

tobythesandwich > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:00

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1.) Partially wrong. While they did fund the CGT with Cayenne sales... They weren’t in near the dire financial straits as they were in the late 80’s and early 90’s. Which is the real time when things were looking grim. Their factories were sort of ass backwards and they had to get Toyota to actually come in and consult to streamline their production facility. But the 986 was selling hand over fist for Porsche. So they weren’t near as hard off in the early 2000’s as your post makes it sound. They did scale back their motorsport division slightly. But they never withdrew entirely from it.

That’s actually the only thing I have a major qualm with for being incorrect. Everything else is spot on.

Another neat fact is to change a fuel pump in one you have to split the monocoque chassis. And the chassis is so light that you have to strap it down when lifting it up on a 2-post lift.

EveryCarIBuyIsDiscontinued > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:02

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I'll be very open: this is the car that made me take notice of Porsche road cars. I'm still haven't drank the Porsche koolaid though.

Nedus > I'm Abe Froman 07/19/2015 at 17:08

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I lol’d.

Steve in Manhattan > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:12

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Gee - should I get a used Boxster in great shape, or do the 30K service on the GT?

And this thing is a killer. As we all know, even professional drivers wreck them.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan, M.D. > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 17:18

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It is amazing how eager some people are to put their ignorance on display. Hmmm... Look up the benefits of threading in those directions using center-lug wheels? Or make a brash comment that implies you know something Porsche engineers didn't? Better go with the comment!!

I'm Abe Froman > Nedus 07/19/2015 at 17:18

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:)

Comfortably Dumb > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 07/19/2015 at 17:20

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You could say without lying that you own a Carrera GT

Dr. Mantis Toboggan, M.D. > dannymac63 07/19/2015 at 17:22

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All carbon fiber is CFRP. Nothing is built with actual fibers of carbon that aren't seated in a plastic resin.

Blair > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:24

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Color codes centet locking nuts......well that explains why on the Mclaren F1 LM they are different colours on each side

Maxaxle > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:27

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Suddenly I want a wallpaper of this.

Maxaxle > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:28

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AH GOD LEATHER

PorscheWidow > tobythesandwich 07/19/2015 at 17:32

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My first Porsche was a 924 S. Fun little car to drive, with less than 35K miles on it (and it was an 87). Died it 2012 when the timing chain went 3 days before scheduled service. Once that happened, it was cheaper to buy a “new” car, which was a 2000 911 with only 27,000 miles. Best part: previous owner had already addressed the RMS and IMS issues. Much as I loved my 924S, once you go rear engine, it’s really hard to go back.

MrMcQueen21v2 > jjhats 07/19/2015 at 17:34

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I remember reading an article when it came out, they tested that exact situation. They said it was discomforting in such an expensive car to not use the gas, but the car had enough torque to keep it steady on the hill until you got on the gas.

NOsubaru > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:35

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THIS is how you link an article. Thank you for doing it properly this time so I’m not left frustrated and disappointed.

budgie654 > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:37

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First and foremost, this car will always be known as the car that killed paul walker.

m2m, apex detective > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:41

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So many people got this wrong.

Just let go of the clutch, then apply throttle ... yes. One of the Dutch car journos I follow has recently realized his dream of driving one of these and he knew about the auto-throttling when he got in the car.

I do this in my Diesel DD everyday. :D

tobythesandwich > lonestranger 07/19/2015 at 17:42

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He wasn’t saying that Porsche was the first to do it. Or even unique in doing it. But that it’s something that the CGT does that’s an interesting fact.

Blair > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:43

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I was never a big fan of the Carrera GT or the 911 GT1( which was really just a race car for the road that Porsche HAD to put into production)

I feel that all Porsche Super car models have never quite come close to the 959 or at least what it represented. I’ll admit, the 918 is DAMN close IMO

tobythesandwich > PorscheWidow 07/19/2015 at 17:44

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I can’t say I disagree. I do enjoy the front engined Porsches though.

I do like rear engine as well... But honestly the Caymans are growing on me over the years. I think given the choice I might actually take a Cayman over a 911. But then again at the end of the day it’s up to my better half when I make a decision like that.

Doctor-G-and-the-wagen > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:44

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The Porsche Cayenne: as inevitable as death and taxes, as necessary an evil as war... and also taxes.

m2m, apex detective > bobrayner 07/19/2015 at 17:44

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This.

Doesn’t work quite so well when your wheel nuts could loosen or come off all by themselves. :)

KillaGrZa > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:44

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Slower than a stock Corvette Stingray around the top gear test track. Also good at killing B actors.

NasalRadiator911 > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:46

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Correct. I drove a friends, and he told me to not touch the throttle while starting out. The system works great. It's also the best sounding street car ever made, imho. Better than an LF-A even.

Ansel > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 17:49

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I bet they use different threading on each side so that acceleration (deceleration?) doesn’t loosen the nuts. I know it used to be a problem with knock off wheels like on old corvettes, one side would loosen themselves over time.

m2m, apex detective > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:52

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IX. New tires to teach an old dog new tricks

In 2013, Porsche and Michelin worked together in creating a new Michelin Pilot Super Sport dual-compound tire for the 2003-2006 Carrera GT. The new tire replaces the original Pilot Sport PS2 and carries the Porsche specification “No” on the wall.

When Walther Röhrl tested the Carrera GT head to head against the 997 GT2 RS, the GT2 RS took a few tenths out of the CGT’s time. Röhrl then claimed that the CGT would probably still be faster around a track, were it not held back by its factory rubber, which was developed a decade earlier – tire technology is said to have made a huge leap since then.

Sauce: http://www.gummibereifung.de/nachrichten/ne…

lonestranger > tobythesandwich 07/19/2015 at 17:52

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I wasn’t implying that he was incorrect. I just thought it noteworthy that they are more common than people may realize.

Alexander Broom > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 17:55

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On Friday I got to see my first Carrera GT at the Porsche of Livermore, it was sitting on the Showroom floor next to a Matte black 918. It was so cool to see them side by side!

m2m, apex detective > GhostZ 07/19/2015 at 17:57

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That’s actually what his name refers to: the act of coal mining is, in this here context, the intricate art of creating a dark-ish residue on a textile surface.

Much like “timber” is used to signal the falling of a tree, these craftsmen communicate the success of their endeavour by reporting a “code brown”.

BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 18:03

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Funny, because this is how I was taught to drive a stick (by a guy who races in PCA club racing, no less). Finesse with the clutch, use the gas when you get going. At least on perfectly level ground and from a stop.

willmederski > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 18:10

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gotta say, that’s some pretty bad looking housing for the shifter. i’m sure it’s lovely supple leather, but it just doesn’t look clean.

really don’t know they gated shifters seem so rare.

they always look good.

dannymac63 > smalleyxb122 07/19/2015 at 18:20

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I stand corrected, thought they used some sort of carbon-carbon or carbon graphite in the earlier monocoques. It’s probably way too brittle. I dunno what the author is trying to say in that case.

DucatiSPS > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 18:22

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It's so they self tighten as you drive. All knockoffs used to be the same way

tobythesandwich > lonestranger 07/19/2015 at 18:24

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Except the CGT was a production car. And outside of the even more rare Mclaren F1, they aren’t exactly common to the average person.

Your post came across as slamming him as if he said Porsche invented or was unique to use center locks. Why bring up other cars and brands when this was a post specifically about the CGT?

CAcoalminer > jjhats 07/19/2015 at 18:24

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The anti-stall system is actually quite sophisticated and surprisingly can handle even fairly steep hills.

Concerning a quick launch, I would describe it as on par with breaking out of a maximum security prison. It is possible but you had better be very talented and knowledgeable. As you drive the car more, you will begin to learn the clutch’s bite point. Keeping this in mind, a seasoned driver would be able to time the clutch engaging with a substantial amount of throttle and perform a blistering start. However, this technique results in either a perfect start or abused clutch. In addition, when new, the clutch measures 31mm and must be replaced at 28mm. Therefore, the risk vs. reward of attempting this feat is, at least in my opinion, not worth it.

Neil Davidson > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 18:26

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Cute!

Transineer > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 18:32

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After years of dreaming about seeing one in person I finally saw one today at a gas station in metro Boston. Man they are fantastic beasts to behold!

gearboxtrouble > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 18:35

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I honsetly don’t think we’ll ever get such a collection of motorsports derived engines powering regular road cars as we did in the early-mid 2000s. A combination of road relevant race car engine rules and mountains of money from an economic boom driven by computers and the internet was the perfect storm. The Carrera GT was one of the first ones but we actually got a family sedan (and estate) powered by a V10 originally desgined for Le Mans in the e60 BMW M5 just a few years later. All of these are fantastic cars and gauranteed future collectors items.

honor first > I'm Abe Froman 07/19/2015 at 18:36

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CAcoalminer > macanamera 07/19/2015 at 18:38

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Thank you for the kind words, my friend.

LugNutz > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 18:38

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Still the best sounding stock car of all time, and my current #1 in the ~$500k post-lottery car buying spree. Those maintenance figures are like a Civic compared to a Veyron, so that would be no worry. $40k for tires? LOL, no.

sweatyballzsack > BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE 07/19/2015 at 18:39

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Yeah isn’t this how everyone drives sick at least if you don’t want to destroy your clutch lol

darkcloak > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 18:43

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Though counterintuitive, drivers should not apply throttle during starts. Rather, they should slowly release the clutch and only apply throttle when rolling with the clutch fully released.

Weird??? That must trop up any valet, mechanic or auto journalist not familiar with the car. I Suppose it could be a good theft deterrent though

montego > I'm Abe Froman 07/19/2015 at 18:45

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I wish I could give you more stars.

sko722 > budgie654 07/19/2015 at 18:49

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I hope you're being sarcastic.

Apex Assassin > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 18:50

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The audio from this car is the best of all road cars. Hellcats cower and hide from this beastie! Not my fav looking Porsche but certainly the one I covet most!!!

Treemendous > budgie654 07/19/2015 at 18:52

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Yeah, no. It really won't.

Treemendous > Maxaxle 07/19/2015 at 18:53

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I want headers like that : (

Treemendous > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 18:57

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A very talented salesman at a Porsche dealership pointed out that the new Boxster’s side crease is styled after the CGT. Once you see it, it can’t be unseen. And it made me really like the new Boxster...

William Getz > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 18:59

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The article states that an SUV introduced in 2002 help fund a show car in 2000. Not sure how that works. Awesome car though.

BunchofQuacks > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 19:07

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The direction of rotation.

ChazzRanger > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 19:30

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I know, right! Left-handed threads are SO stupid! Doesn’t Porsche understand how hard it is to find a left-handed wrench? What were they thinking?!
lol

Maxaxle > Treemendous 07/19/2015 at 19:30

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Don’t we all?

ForzaFanatic3 > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 19:33

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Sooooo where is the article of the 8 things i didn’t know about the Carrera GT?

Must be a slow day at the office...

Autolegend86 > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 19:35

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9. In the early 90’s, Porsche took two of their 1980’s TAG V6 F1 engines and turned them into a NA V12 for the 1991 Footwork F1 team. This engine was seriously overweight and seriously underpowered. A solution for 1992 was a bespoke V10 engine for the 3.5 liter rules. Before this engine was ready, Porsche left F1 and never returned. When the 9R3 LMP1 project was started for 1999-2000, the V10 engine was brought back on the drawing table only to be killed again when Porsche left top class sports car racing for over a decade. But, the V10 did get to exist as a road car engine in the Carrera GT.

walterroar > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 19:38

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Loved the facts, but I don’t think the Cayenne was in any way instrumental in bringing the Carrera GT into production stage, as the first deliveries of the Cayenne were in early 2003. Can’t find when exactly (it’s late in the night here), but I think Porsche was already turning a profit in the very late 1990s, hence the money to do a supercar project again.

Rand0nS > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 19:48

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You and your two star friends are dumb.

macanamera > CAcoalminer 07/19/2015 at 19:56

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Hey, it's true. Coming from someone that knows about cars, you know your stuff.

greyspace > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 07/19/2015 at 20:00

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Yes, but only because of the 356 CGT above it. Gah! It’s so beautiful.

Icarus8 > lonestranger 07/19/2015 at 20:03

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Just ignore the sandwich. Accurate information and color photos of cool cars are always welcome here!

dogisbadob > Ansel 07/19/2015 at 20:16

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Don’t forget the soft lead hammer :)

Boss2452stolemylunchmoney > I'm Abe Froman 07/19/2015 at 20:24

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The race cars I’ve worked on with a single lug, only used right hand threads on both sides of the car.

I'm Abe Froman > honor first 07/19/2015 at 20:31

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I’m lovin it!

Earnest Borgwarner > I'm Abe Froman 07/19/2015 at 20:37

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And.....I love you?!

Earnest Borgwarner > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 20:44

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Hey Mr. Kirsch, give us just one more thing...you know if you’d have made this post “9 things you didn’t know about the Carrera GT”. Whadya say MattK? Hook us up for more joyful factoids?!

Michael Prichinello > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 20:46

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Enjoyed reading that.

theWong > dogisbadob 07/19/2015 at 20:48

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The left-handed threads help keep that side tight and won’t come loose as the wheel spinning. There’s left-handed threads on bike pedals or like miter saws cutoff wheels too. Or Porsche could use conventional hubs and studs. But racecar!

Kmccauley > GhostZ 07/19/2015 at 20:48

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The description didn’t really elaborate on it, but it’s true. The McLaren had am aluminum subframe that the front suspension mounted to, while the CGT was the first production chassis to be fully carbon fiber.

CAcoalminer > macanamera 07/19/2015 at 20:57

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I appreciate that.

blown032k > I'm Abe Froman 07/19/2015 at 20:59

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Every car, no matter how terrible, was designed by engineers that know what they’re doing. We, as the general population, don’t know what we’re doing by comparison. These message boards exist because it’s ok to question a manufacturer’s decision. If we always assume the engineers know what they’re doing and we don't we’ll never have productive conversation.

LP670SV > Matt Kirsch 07/19/2015 at 21:04

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I saw one on the street about two weeks ago and it completely made my day