SS?

"CalzoneGolem" (calzonegolem) 07/06/2015 at 14:48 • Filed to: None

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Paint looks pretty shitty but I’m not entirely certain it didn’t leave the factory that way. Ad says 1970 Nova SS 454 $12,500

camaroboy68ss > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 14:55

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Not a real SS, the rear end is the big factor. Should be a 12 bolt,pic shown is a 10 bolt. Also no stripes were offered on the nova from the factory especially those Z/28 knockoffs. There are a few ther things but this was not a true SS nova so more than lolly not a true big block car either

CalzoneGolem > camaroboy68ss 07/06/2015 at 14:57

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Yeah, I didn’t think that looked right. Thanks!

Steve in Manhattan > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 14:57

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The angles are poor, but still something about the panel gaps seems wrong. I’d want to see it up in the air to see if it had been smacked into a guardrail at some point. Link to ad?

Pixel > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 14:59

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They never put a 454 in the ‘70 nova from what I can tell(biggest engine was the 396), but I am not an expert.

Nibbles > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 14:59

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Any idea what engine it has? Only 3 were SS engines for ‘70, and they were not available in non-SS trim:

L48 350
L34 396
L78 396

That’s pretty much the only identifier for ‘70. However, given the lack of badging, either this is a shitty resto job or it’s not an SS. Either way, I’d say CP.

EDIT YO: LOL 454? Not an SS mate

CalzoneGolem > Steve in Manhattan 07/06/2015 at 15:01

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Sorry for my ham fisted photos. It definitely looked wonky.

Nibbles > Pixel 07/06/2015 at 15:01

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You are correct.

jkm7680 > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 15:01

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That looks hawt. Too bad it’s fake.

Except every single kid would say durrrrrrr bumblebee.

CalzoneGolem > Pixel 07/06/2015 at 15:02

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As far as I can tell this is correct.

Twism > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 15:03

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Is the SS crooked? that would piss me off to no ends.

CalzoneGolem > jkm7680 07/06/2015 at 15:03

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Stupid kids don’t know that Bumblee is a yellow beetle.

CalzoneGolem > Twism 07/06/2015 at 15:04

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The more I look at that picture the more I want to drive back over an kick it.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Pixel 07/06/2015 at 15:04

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You might find a 454 in the Buick and the 455 ( and the mythic 442) in the Olds of that same year though.

CalzoneGolem > Nibbles 07/06/2015 at 15:05

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Still that’d be fun with a 454.

Margin Of Error > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 15:06

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More like BS

Nibbles > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 15:06

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Oh hell yeah it would. Kill the badges, sell it as what it is, drop the price a few large and I’d be interested. Not gonna go for some gussied-up version of my Eleanor because some chucklefuck threw a badge on the front end.

CalzoneGolem > Nibbles 07/06/2015 at 15:11

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It has a Hurst shifter and an enormous tach.

Nibbles > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 07/06/2015 at 15:11

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Fun facts: The other brands’ X-cars were not available in 1970; the Pontiac Ventura being the first one to come out in 1971. The Buick Apollo and Oldsmobile Omega both debuted in 1973

The 442 wasn’t an engine, but a model designation which stood for “Four barrel carburetor, four-speed manual, dual exhaust” thus 4-4-2.

Nibbles > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 15:13

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Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Nibbles 07/06/2015 at 15:13

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Was it on the 455 Olds Rocket engine? I ask, because I had one with that exact engine in it.

Nibbles > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 07/06/2015 at 15:15

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The 4-4-2? It was definitely available with the 455 Rocket.

Maybe I misunderstood your statement, I thought you were saying the 442 was one of Oldsmobile’s engine sizes available in the X-car

Maybe I was wrong about the whole thing

Steve in Manhattan > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 15:15

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Sorry - I’m an idiot - I thought you took the photos from an ad you saw. You should think up an excuse for a test drive.

Steve in Manhattan > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 15:16

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And a decent can of tuna ....

ly2v8-Brian > Pixel 07/06/2015 at 15:20

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427 in the COPO Novas

ly2v8-Brian > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 15:21

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Not real. But it's still cool

CalzoneGolem > Steve in Manhattan 07/06/2015 at 15:27

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Chunk white in water of gtfac

CalzoneGolem > Steve in Manhattan 07/06/2015 at 15:30

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Hey, no problem.

Out of curiosity what would be better angles?

Steve in Manhattan > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 15:53

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Even better - if you ever see Progresso canned tuna in light oil, grab it. Well worth the extra dollar.

CalzoneGolem > Steve in Manhattan 07/06/2015 at 15:55

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Progresso tuna? What a world we live in!

camaroboy68ss > ly2v8-Brian 07/06/2015 at 16:00

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1969 only, the 70 COPOs (note: all but 2 COPOs were Yenko Dueces in 70) they had the 360hp LT-1 small block.

ly2v8-Brian > camaroboy68ss 07/06/2015 at 16:01

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Ok

camaroboy68ss > Pixel 07/06/2015 at 16:02

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The “396” was the largest motor offers in the camaro/nova through the regular channels. Though the 396 was really a 402ci motor. It was a bored 396 but marketing left the 396 name due established brand recognition

camaroboy68ss > Nibbles 07/06/2015 at 16:05

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I’m not an expert on the nova but since many things were shared with the first gen camaro I going to assume the heater box on the firewall is different between small block and big block meaning where your heater hoses run into the core are at different locations. Most people don’t change that when swapping motors.,

camaroboy68ss > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 16:06

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So it was a stick or an auto with that stereotypical rachet shifter?

Steve in Manhattan > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 16:13

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I had no idea it existed, then saw it one day at Fairway, my market.

CalzoneGolem > camaroboy68ss 07/06/2015 at 16:14

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It was a stick. I tried to get a pic but all you could see was the reflection.

Nibbles > camaroboy68ss 07/06/2015 at 16:15

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Good point! The Nova did share that design trait

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > camaroboy68ss 07/06/2015 at 16:55

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First thing I noticed too.

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > CalzoneGolem 07/06/2015 at 16:59

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Nope..... but neither is mine.

camaroboy68ss > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI 07/06/2015 at 17:44

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The rear end is the first thing I look at when a chevy is a claimed true SS car. There are a small number of cars/combos where an SS didnt include a 12 bolt.

camaroboy68ss > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI 07/06/2015 at 17:46

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Oooooh one nice nova! My 68 Camaro isn't a true SS either but it's a phantom SS due to its odd options that got most of the SS goodies.

CalzoneGolem > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI 07/07/2015 at 08:05

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Then why rock the SS badge?

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > CalzoneGolem 07/07/2015 at 11:22

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meh. Too lazy to replace to be honest. I’ll probably get a black bowtie for it at some point.

CalzoneGolem > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI 07/07/2015 at 11:41

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Let me float this idea passed you.

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > CalzoneGolem 07/07/2015 at 11:45

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I do love me some old school blue bowtie, but it would be the only blue thing on the car....