"Cherry_man1" (Cherry_man1)
07/05/2015 at 11:15 • Filed to: Flat tire
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"Cherry_man1" (Cherry_man1)
07/05/2015 at 11:15 • Filed to: Flat tire | 1
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Bout to go back to Kansas from a weekend in IL....wake up to...a flat tire all the way to the rim down....and Ford decided not to put a spare tire in the C-Max but instead an air compressor with a canister of fix a flat in it to use. Well got air and fix in it and took it to a Walmart (only thing with in 50 miles) they are gonna check how bad it is and maybe patch it but I will say this, fuck hybrid econo cars and ford for not giving a full size spare or what ever is in my tire...
I'm tired and frustrated...
mr2gud2u
> Cherry_man1
07/05/2015 at 12:01 |
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How was your 4th?
JGrabowMSt
> Cherry_man1
07/05/2015 at 12:56 |
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I feel you. Full size spares are super important, or a normal sized donut instead of a space saver. Space savers dont get you all the home most of time...
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Cherry_man1
> mr2gud2u
07/05/2015 at 16:27 |
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It...it was decent actually.
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Cherry_man1
> JGrabowMSt
07/05/2015 at 16:28 |
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Nope
Nauraushaun
> JGrabowMSt
07/05/2015 at 23:17 |
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I disagree. The manufacturer has traded space for convenience. But the space can be used every day, the convenience of a full-sized spare tyre is something you need rarely if at all. And in the rare case that you do need a spare tyre, the extra range given by fix-a-flat is usually enough to get you out of trouble.
The use case of getting a flat tyre and needing more than 50-100km of range is very, very uncommon.
It’d be nice if it was an option though. That way they can still advertise the full space capacity, but a buyer can opt for a spare if it’s more important to them.
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JGrabowMSt
> Nauraushaun
07/05/2015 at 23:41 |
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Well, thinking of it in terms of my garage, I have an SL Class, specifically an R129. It’s the last one to my knowledge to come with a “normal” size spare. It’s no space saver, as the tire is a 225 width tire. In a GT car. I can still fit several days of clothes/toiletries for two in the trunk without impeding on the space in the cabin at all. My “overnight” bag fits several days of clothes, as does my girlfriends, and we take the car on vacations. That’s two, maybe 3 bags, remove those from the trunk, and we’re good to go, change the tire, and judging by how much extra space is in there, even the rears should be able to drop into that space without trouble (18x8 wheel with a 275 tire). If the normal wheel can drop in there, that means it’s good to go. That car doesn’t come with a full sized spare because the front and rear are staggered, but it comes with a good sized spare that’s certainly more than good enough.
And then you can just turn and look at my Magnum, which has two levels for cargo in the trunk. Lose one level (or just half of one level) and a full size spare can easily fit in the trunk. Hell, if you really wanted to make things interesting, a donut and a full size could fit in there. I just had my new wheels put on, and I can fit all 4 wheels in the back with the seat down no problem. I can even fit all four of my spare wheels into my trunk as well as all 4 of my sisters winter tires and still seat two people up front (she’s got a Mini Cooper).
Since both of my cars are slightly older (10 and 18 years old), I really have a hard time believing new cars can’t find some way to accommodate a full size spare. Jeep managed to, just strap it to the back. VW busses managed 50 years ago by strapping it to the front. There’s no reason space can’t be found either under a rear seat, on the back, just making a deeper spare tire well, all sorts of ways. It’s not as if cars are shrinking, and there wasn’t exactly such a thing as a space saver 40 years ago. Sure there were cars that just didn’t come with a spare (looking at you, Cobra), but plenty of cars back then came with full sized spares. We’re making cars bigger and bigger, but skipping out in the spare tire department? I don’t get how that’s acceptable.
Fix-A-Flat however, I wouldn’t use it as a last resort in any of my own cars.
My shop would be extremely displeased if this shit got onto their tire machines, the mount or balance ones. Considering they’re literally some of the best in the business, I respect their opinion on that.
boxrocket
> Cherry_man1
07/05/2015 at 23:59 |
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That sucks. The hybrid battery pack goes where the spare tire would go.
Other than the tire issue, how do you like the C-Max? I want my mom to look at one.
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Cherry_man1
> boxrocket
07/06/2015 at 00:17 |
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Well it gets great around town millage, hwy it’s ok, like 40-35, but being used to my Mustang and Gran Torino it sucks, I cant get any seating position I like and I’m all screwed up when it comes to sight lines out of it.
forward visibility is great
Back up cam is greatly helpful
Dunno why people hate on the MyFordTouch it’s not that bad imo
Ride for driver and passenger is great back seat blows like sitting on a wooden plank
Make sure you get the glass roof or panoramic roof otherwise the car is stupid boring
Also be sure it had it’s issue with it’s 12V batter fixed, otherwise it will slow drain the car...overnight, also it’s not cheap for tires or oil.
Think that sums it up.
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Nauraushaun
> JGrabowMSt
07/06/2015 at 07:27 |
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It’s not about allowing some arbitrary amount of bags, it’s about maximizing space per the body. Maybe it can already fit 3 bags or 6 bags or a million, the point is trying to get as much space as possible, more than the competition. No matter how much room a car has, a full-size spare trades useful space for something that isn’t strictly necessary and may never be used.
If there’s space for it under the seat or in a deeper well or wherever, it’s still sapping space that could be used for passengers and belongings. Some cars can get away with it being on the front/back and that’s great, but most can’t.
You’re right though, some people want that trade-off, and that’s why they should offer it as an option.
If manufacturers are doing this, tyre shops need to deal with it.
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JGrabowMSt
> Nauraushaun
07/06/2015 at 08:26 |
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I’ll give you a tire full of fix-a-flat and let you change it. We’ll see how much you’ll be willing to “deal with it” on a regular basis.
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Nauraushaun
> JGrabowMSt
07/06/2015 at 22:56 |
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But manufacturers are doing it! They do have to deal with it, that’s the way of the world. Or start refusing certain repairs.