How to Lose the Privilege of Driving My Car, a Guide

"Logansteno: Bought a VW?" (logansteno)
05/27/2015 at 00:46 • Filed to: None

Featuring my best friend of 12 years, who has only driven RWD a handful of times, and never owned a car with over 200 horsepower. And is usually way more calm when driving my car.

Step 1: Speed through a residential neighborhood at 55 MILES PER HOUR on the last day of school when children are getting out.

This is how you get arrested and get my car impounded, dumbass. Hell, maybe even kill a fucking child you idiot.

Step 2: Burn through my fucking tires peeling away from stop signs.

Well, these tires had good tread.

Step 3: Endanger Me, My car, and My girlfriend by peeling away from stop signs where you’re turning, yanking the wheel, and make the ass end kick out. Multiple times.

Not only do you not know what you’re doing since you’re used to how FWD cars respond to this, you’re putting me, my girlfriend, my car, and other people in danger by using the entire fucking road to correct and overcorrect your fuck up, almost sending my car into a curb. TWICE.

Step 4: Don’t fucking stop when I tell you to stop

You’re going to wreck my car, fucking CHILL with the go pedal before I knock you the fuck out.

Step 5: Come flying down my street like an asshole in my car with tinted windows.

Great, now everyone thinks I’m the asshole driving because it’s my car.

Conclusion: Next time you ask for the keys, you’re getting a big one of these until you prove you can be sane behind the wheel.

Have fun driving your 2002 Escape V6 FWD with the red grille you spray painted. Hope you don’t total it rear-ending someone like you did your Sebring Convertible.

DISCUSSION (39)

My citroen won't start > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 00:53

I’m even more strict:

No food unless you are a trusted car-guy friend.

No feet on dash.

Use your side of the Air-Con, don’t fuck up with the general thing.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 00:58

I have a much simpler rule

You want to drive my car? You drive at SCCA or other sanctioned events such as autocross or track days. My “inner circle” of friends are those who have earned this privilege through blood sweat and tears of working on their own rides and trying to get better at driving. I allow them to use and drive my own car because I know they both understand how to drive a car like mine and they respect my time and effort and money put into it.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > My citroen won't start
05/27/2015 at 01:00

And no farting either!

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
05/27/2015 at 01:03

I’m one of those people who will hand my keys to anyone as long as I know you’re not incompetent and won’t kill us. Up until today, I hadn’t had issues with said friend and he was actually one of the better ones.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 01:03

Last week, I ended up through poor judgment and a lack of choice riding in the back of my friend’s sonata with a total of eight people in the car, around 11pm. He was doing 45 in a tight residential area, swerving to be funny, and ran a stop sign at said speed. There was a cop sitting there. He never even turned on his lights, we pulled over and waited for him to turn around. The officer basically told my friend (super nicely) to please knock it off.

TL;DR Friend was driving like an irresponsible, dangerous dumbass, and got caught by the most chill cop in the known universe.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
05/27/2015 at 01:05

My friend is damn lucky the cops who usually sit along the route home from my girlfriend’s house weren’t there, he’d have probably been pulled over and given either a hugely expensive ticket or even arrested.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 01:08

I have gone beyond dangerously/stupidly fast on the open highway out in the Country, but speeding in a residential neighborhood is a special kind of moronic.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
05/27/2015 at 01:09

Oh, I’ve broken 120 out on country roads where the regular residents do 80 in a 45, but I never, never, NEVER, speed in a residential area. Too many risk factors.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 01:24

You can pick your friends but you can’t pick your seat.

Have you tried telling this person how you feel?

Can I borrow your car?

Birddog > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 01:38

Super simple rule when it comes to loaning tools, cars, girlfriends etc..

“No” Two letters make a bloody powerful word.

Don’t be soft. Just flat out decline.

Can I.. NO!

Could you.. NO!

Aww, C’mon ma.. NO!

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
05/27/2015 at 01:42

the cops near me would have charged him and made an example of him, and would have charged anyone else who had a drivers license who weren’t wearing seatbelts.

It probably would have made the news, Hero cop thwarts hoons.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Birddog
05/27/2015 at 01:44

The thing is is that I was perfectly fine with him driving it, I had let him before and he’s been fine. He sure as hell wasn’t this time. Next time it will be a firm no though.

ShelbyRacer78-Fusion Modifier > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 01:47

Can I drive it?

promoted by the color red > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 01:51

I taught my friend to drive stick in the old PromotedBy mobile. After we got the car going in the parking lot in 1st, he commented that he was learning stick so much faster than me. He then powershifted my car and ignored my instructions to get the car going before mastering launching at a certain rev point. He insisted on doing “perfect” launches under 1200 rpm which meant he’d pussyfoot the throttle and alternate between dumping/mashing the clutch so it took 60 seconds to get through EVERY intersection after we stalled six or seven times.

I’m not so sure I should teach people how to drive stick in my car anymore.

He also liked to ping-pong his Civic between cars on two-lane highways at 80+ mph. I’m not really sure how he intends to keep his car to 500,000 miles but all the power to him!

Fun times.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 02:09

Let’s see:

Bright color spray painted grille...

Wrecked another car recently...

Why did you let this person drive your car, anyway?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
05/27/2015 at 02:12

Because he’s driven it multiple times in the past without issue. He’s usually more careful than I am with it.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 02:15

But the warning signs. Can you really deny that these are red flags?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
05/27/2015 at 02:20

Well the grille is just more his bad taste (he was wearing american flag shorts today, after all.) The car accident is a red flag, but it was a while ago and I know that POS car needed brake work from the 10 minutes I drove it. Brake pedals shouldn’t go all the way to the floor before something happens.

Either way, I go more off past experiences, and in the past he hasn’t been an asshole to my car or my safety so he got the keys.

DipodomysDeserti > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
05/27/2015 at 02:25

I'm guessing you all have a fairly light complexion.

DipodomysDeserti > Eric @ opposite-lock.com
05/27/2015 at 02:27

Some people have to actually touch fire to know it's hot...

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > DipodomysDeserti
05/27/2015 at 03:03

Except there’s no fire to be touched, this kid is a spark at most on the danger scale 99% of the time. The grille is just in bad taste and the accident was partially down to that piece of shit Sebring needing it’s brakes worked on badly and his dad saying he’ll get to it.

When I haven’t had issues with someone driving my car in the past, they’re going to get to drive it again. Now that he’s dun goofed, he won’t be driving it anymore. Simple as that.

Mike > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 07:02

I have one rule for people who want to drive my car.

NO.

I don’t care if you’re Niki Motherfucking Lauda. My car is my responsibility, and I’m not going to be responsible for your potential stupidity.

Of course, this doesn’t stop family from taking my keys behind my back, sliding my car into a curb, and breaking my suspension linkage. (Love you, Mom!)

jkm7680 > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 07:28

Here’s my rule: Nobody else drives my car unless I trust them with my life.

jariten1781 > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 07:31

After a friend got my car impounded in college (he was also ‘normally’ a fine driver) I decided to never loan my car out again.

Fast forward 10 years and a different friend flies in from across the country and I pussy out and tell him he can take my DD while I drive the third car for the week so he can save on a rental. 35 year old dude, 2 kids, no tickets; what can go wrong? How about backing into a pole and curbing the shit out of the front right wheel.

Never again....

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 07:56

I feel bad turning people down, unless I have prior experience with them being a douche. After all, if people had done that to me I wouldn’t be driving right now.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 08:01

....and you still refer to him as “best friend?”

Sounds like he owes some money and apologies. Sounds like maybe you should re-evaluate your friendship with him a well. People grow. Sometimes they grrow in different directions and it’s best just to let go.....

Party-vi > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 08:39

I mean, who didn’t think giving the keys for an M3 to a kid would work out well?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 09:50

Um... http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/why-you-should…

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > DipodomysDeserti
05/27/2015 at 10:03

I’d *like* to believe that wasn’t a factor, but sadly it very well could’ve been. Yes we do. Although the cop who stopped us was Latino.

RedPir8Roberts > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
05/27/2015 at 10:32

Ah yes, swerving to be “funny.” There was a long story in the regional AAA magazine about a girl who was super careful, new-ish driver with some friends in her car, always under the speed limit to the point she was teased about it. Someone in the car made a comment to her about being such a careful driver, and in reaction to be “funny,” she swerved just a bit—on a gravelly road, doing probably 40 mph or less, leading to a crash / death of one of the people in the car. Also not amusing—the guy who died because he as a passenger pulled down the top of the girl driving in another incident, causing her to crash the car. It doesn’t take alcohol to be stupid (though it helps). There are few worse feelings than the powerlessness when someone else is at the wheel and behaving badly, like the OP’s story and yours. If someone pulled that kind of stuff and endangered me, they would instantly be an ex-friend. Your friend was unbelievably lucky, but I imagine you won’t be a passenger with him anytime soon, because people don’t learn their lesson unless they suffer consequences. The cop probably didn’t really do him a favor.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > jkm7680
05/27/2015 at 11:49

I'd definitely say we have a mutual trusting of each other's lives after being friends for over a decade. I definitely trust him a bit less now though.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me!
05/27/2015 at 11:55

One event like this over 12 years of friendship with no such drama (except for broken bones and a tornado) isn't enough for me to totally reevaluate our whole friendship. I think he just took his excitement a little too far (he loves my car and always enjoys it when I let him drive it.) He's just lost the privilege until further notice.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Party-vi
05/27/2015 at 11:56

Well given we’re both 17 and he's actually older..

Party-vi > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 11:58

You own the car - you paid for it and your money goes into it. People take care of things they have an investment in (usually). I would never let someone else drive the Willys unless there was some crazy absolute need or they knew the ground rules going in.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > RedPir8Roberts
05/27/2015 at 12:37

He knows what he did. I scolded him a little when we got back and told him I wasn’t ever riding with him again, then messaged him the next day and told him that he was welcome to come the next time I hosted a...shall we say, event like the one that evening, but he was never welcome to drive other people again. He was completely understanding.

BloodlessWeevil > jkm7680
05/27/2015 at 13:33

Every time you drive on public roads you are trusting random strangers with your life. Actually, every time you go out in public at all really.

Ferrero1911 > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 17:55

Even if you’re the same age, no one in their right mind lends their car to a 17 year old (unless it’s their kid). You don’t want to have to afford paying for the shit that can happen when a 17 year old kid that is not you wrecks your car.

CB > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
05/27/2015 at 20:44

Don’t do that, anyway.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
06/01/2015 at 06:25

When you’re out on your own your perspective on this will change. This is not a knock on you. He didn’t stop when you told him to according to the original post ( section 4 ). This alone is cause for reevaluating. We can only go by what information is given to us, but from that it seems to me you value the friendship more than he does.

Devil’s advocate: Say he had a suspended license and injured someone. Your now open to possible charges and DEFINITE lawsuits...