Sexism much?

"EL_ULY" (uly) 05/22/2015 at 09:42 • Filed to: None

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“Get your fresh girls here! Get them while they are hot and more importantly, young. You don’t want to get caught with a 25 year old, yuck! New batch of 2015 model year high school graduates legal and ready for youuuu!” *ultimate facepalm.jpg*

Thanks duPont Registry for pissing me off so early on Friday

(kinja posting this sideways?)

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > EL_ULY 05/22/2015 at 09:45

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What in the actual fuck...

Also that dude Craig Donaldson looks like a fucking rapist.

nermal > EL_ULY 05/22/2015 at 09:47

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I’d call it a case of knowing your target market.

Stereotypical Lambo Dude is probably one of their top customers.

yamahog > EL_ULY 05/22/2015 at 09:47

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*full body cringe*

Also, this is the type of shit that makes one feel decidedly unwelcome in motorsport/auto hobbies.

Xyl0c41n3 > EL_ULY 05/22/2015 at 09:51

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Y por eso te amo. Jajaja.

I love the little factoid at the bottom: “male owned agency.” No shit, Sherlock. Nobody’s gonna question that.

Also, Cookie Monster with angry eyebrows is surprisingly frightening. Heh.

Feliz fin de semana! :)

duurtlang > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 09:52

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I get a similar sensation, and I’m a guy. Is this type of ad relatively common in the US? I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything even remotely like that here.

Xyl0c41n3 > duurtlang 05/22/2015 at 09:54

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Common in ads? Heck, the attitude was common on Oppo for a long time. Discussing women as if they were vehicles or other objects still happens here, too, though not as often, thankfully.

yamahog > nermal 05/22/2015 at 09:56

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I get what you’re saying, but having seen internal market research, women are a growing number of luxury performance buyers. That’s on top of the old news that women are the decision makers in most automotive purchases. OEMs are trying to sell to anyone with the money, perhaps print magazines would do best to avoid having shitty ads drive away an already dwindling subscriber base.

yamahog > duurtlang 05/22/2015 at 10:00

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You get the same type of demeaning stuff with or without car metaphors in a lot of these matchmaker ads for the rich guy who fancies himself deserving of a trophy wife but for some reason can’t seem to attract one on his own. I’ve seen them in airline magazines too. Car ads and magazines historically have some pretty liberal use of the “sex sells” concept. Blech.

random001 > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 10:01

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Lol'd.

jariten1781 > EL_ULY 05/22/2015 at 10:03

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These ads used to fill up the in-flight magazines up until a couple years ago. They’re still in them occasionally, but seem to have been cut back a bit. I always figured the whole thing is a scam.

random001 > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 10:05

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Hell, as an American I frequently feel decidedly unwelcome in motorsports...

RyanFrew > EL_ULY 05/22/2015 at 10:06

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Genuine question: The people who actually call that guy are clearly sexists and are about as shallow as a puddle. However , to play Devil’s advocate, is there anything to be said about the women who are willingly participating in this? It’s not a positive feeling, but I don’t know how to feel about them exactly...

duurtlang > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 10:13

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While I don’t think it has its place here, posting pictures of scantily clad attractive women is in my opinion not even in the same league to what I see here. That ad treats women like nothing more than cattle, like well groomed dogs at a dog show. It’s mostly the (con)text that I find the most offensive. There’s a certain disdain in there, while with the pictures of the scantily clad women there’s admiration besides the objectification. That doesn’t make it right, but in my opinion it’s not as wrong as this ad.

I can imagine the perspective of a woman, who has to deal with this in real life, is different to that of a man though. I only see it happen around me, I’ve never been marginalized because of my own (male) gender in real life.

EL_ULY > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 10:15

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yeah no kidding >:(

EL_ULY > nermal 05/22/2015 at 10:15

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well..... kind of lol

EL_ULY > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 05/22/2015 at 10:16

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LOL!!!!!

RockThrillz89 > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 10:17

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There’s the rub - this ad isn’t targeted to men who have a wife to answer to. This ad is targeted to those men having a mid-life crisis and divorced his wife because she picked up some crows feet from faking a smile all the time being dragged to old men parties fundraisers. And the fact that print mags have a dwindling subscriber base means that manufacturers are willing to pay less for ads, but these scummy agencies are still willing to pay a premium. If you’re going down anyway, might as well make as much money doing it as you can. Doesn’t make it right, it just means that they’re a desperate business.

EL_ULY > RyanFrew 05/22/2015 at 10:17

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Yeah I know what you’re saying. It’s just an unfortunate thing in the millionaire world

EL_ULY > jariten1781 05/22/2015 at 10:18

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I’ve seen them in international flights but not a entire page like here

EL_ULY > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 10:20

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lol y yo :] Gracias. Que te la pases bien carnala.

1 semana hasta mi boda aaahh!!!! Estoy muy emocionado!

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 05/22/2015 at 10:20

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He probably traffics humans. Just a guess.

nermal > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 10:21

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I would agree with you that running the ad would be a bad idea if this were in a magazine targeting a more mainstream audience (C&D / R&T / MT). However, Dupont Registry isn’t even a magazine, it’s a classified ad book for high end and exotic cars. I don’t think the ad would work in an Autotrader print magazine either.

The most recent relevant article I found without searching too much is this: Linky

9 out of the 10 most-male purchased vehicles on the list are ones that you would expect to see in the Dupont Registry. It’s safe to say that there is a strong overlap between the majority of customers that buy the cars listed for sale in the DR and the majority of customers for the “service” listed in the ad - basically old guys with lots of $$$.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > RyanFrew 05/22/2015 at 10:22

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I’m willing to bet there’s a strong degree of deception/exploitation that plays into that decision. That or these breathing turds just buy them from Russia.

yamahog > random001 05/22/2015 at 10:28

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Imagine if someone was both American and a woman! Wild, I know!

yamahog > RyanFrew 05/22/2015 at 10:30

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Oh cool, devil’s advocate . Fun.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 05/22/2015 at 10:37

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The whole thing just rubs me the wrong way. If I had a daughter and he came anywhere near her I’d take him out into the Pine barrens in NJ, make him dig a 6ft deep hole and leave him in it.

random001 > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 10:38

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Mind = blown...

RyanFrew > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 10:50

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You can get offended by my comment if you want. The article you linked is irrelevant at its best and stupid at its worst.

It doesn’t matter whether most mass shootings are targeted at women who rejected the gunman

Anyone who claims they’re playing “devil’s advocate” by bringing that point into a discussion is not actually playing devil’s advocate - they’re victim blaming.

If you are white, it doesn’t matter whether people of color are being racially profiled or not.

Says who? I’m a white male. I’m also a feminist and in favor of racial equality. Does being a white male mean that I can’t participate in an intellectual discussion about rights?

It is incredibly painful to feel that in order for you to care about my safety, I have to win this verbal contest you have constructed “for fun”.

Still not seeing how my use of “Devil’s advocate” coincides with the point in this article. Now, if you showed me that all of the women who are associated with this company are being traded against their will, then fine, end of discussion. I now know that this is just plain sad. But we don’t know that, and I’m wondering if these beautiful women are equally shallow as these rich old men.

RyanFrew > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 05/22/2015 at 10:52

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I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case. If it is the case, I’m left wondering how this is legal, exactly.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > RyanFrew 05/22/2015 at 11:01

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Up front it’s all legal. It’s a dating service like eHarmony, right? But underneath I’ll bet there’s alot of illegal stuff going on.

RyanFrew > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 05/22/2015 at 11:04

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Yeah, that first part that you mention would definitely be my first question. What do they tell the IRS? Dating service? Some kind of escort service? Modeling agency?

thebigbossyboss > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 11:04

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Senorita mi amigo hubeira comido yo tener que trasladarse a Texas.

Es curiouso porque el tiene nada visitar texas.

Xyl0c41n3 > duurtlang 05/22/2015 at 11:09

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In regards to this:

That ad treats women like nothing more than cattle, like well groomed dogs at a dog show

I’m saying that this does happen/has happened on oppo all the time.

The equating of women to cars that should be possessed, driven, traded in, traded up happens all the time with same mouth-breathing “hue hue hue” laugh. The CL ads with amateur car chick photos is just one example. I’m sure you know the kind I mean: where someone is selling a car on craigslist and posts photos of “models” with the cars. Oppos used to make posts linking to those ads, or post the photos from them and within seconds the comments about how well the models would fit in the trunk would start popping up in the comments. You know, the hooker-in-the-trunk comments (because beating/killing sex workers is totally cool, bruh).

Or comments using adjectives that are typically used to to describe used cars (like mileage, discussing body aesthetics, etc) followed by “and I’m not talking about the car, if you know what I mean,” were made all the time.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 05/22/2015 at 11:12

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The lack of fatherhood among daughters is often how it starts. In many cases a lack of foundational male affirmation, namely from the father, is exploited by the traffickers. Combined with the promise of good pay (never fulfilled) and often a lie about an entirely different type of job (everything from modeling in the first world to custodial in poorer economies), it becomes quite effective.

yamahog > RyanFrew 05/22/2015 at 11:17

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Women don’t have to be traded against their will for this ad to remain sexist as hell, which it is, and which is the topic at hand. That’s why your “devil’s advocate” playtime is sidetracking and willfully obtuse. Dare I say even “irrelevant at best and stupid at worst.”

And as we all know, women are not all feminists and capable of internalized misogyny even if they are consenting parties in these arrangements.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 05/22/2015 at 11:17

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Completely agree, my wife’s sister in-laws sister was married to a shit bag (I won’t call him a man because he’s not) and he up and left her with two kids and had his whore of a mother kick them out of the house they were living in.

She has a son and a daughter so it’s fallen on my brother in-law and I to pick up his slack and be father figures to the kids. She is really a sweet kid and the last thing I want to see happen to her is end up falling victims to scumbags like these.

Your boy, BJR > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 11:19

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hooker-in-the-trunk comments

That's why I measure my trunk volume in kilos of cocaine!

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 05/22/2015 at 11:20

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Really good of you to do that for her. Keep it up.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > RyanFrew 05/22/2015 at 11:21

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“Introductions” service, it looks like.

Your boy, BJR > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 05/22/2015 at 11:22

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as someone who lives on the outskirts of the barrens.....

.....that shit is convenient as hell.

yamahog > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 05/22/2015 at 11:24

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Can we not with the armchair psychology of “daddy issues?”

Xyl0c41n3 > thebigbossyboss 05/22/2015 at 11:31

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Heh. Boss, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Your friend should have eaten because he has to move to Texas, but it's weird because he has no reason to visit Texas?

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig 05/22/2015 at 11:31

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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

What kind of man would I be if I didn’t?

Xyl0c41n3 > Your boy, BJR 05/22/2015 at 11:33

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I’m in Texas. With our proximity to Mexico, I measure mine in bundles of weed. ^_~

Heh. Just kidding. We all know I measure by how many briskets I can fit in there. The answer is “surprisingly a lot for a Fiesta sedan.” Hehehe.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 11:37

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I wish I had an armchair at the office. That would be awesome. Maybe I should bring mine in and see what they say.

Your boy, BJR > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 11:41

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I’m suprised you don't measure it in how many gallons of shiner fit.

Xyl0c41n3 > Your boy, BJR 05/22/2015 at 11:45

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Heh. As much as I love Shiner, I’m just not a very big drinker. I can barely finish one bottle in a sitting, and that’s nursing it for a while. To me, it’s like the cherry on top of a sundae. You only have the one, and it’s just a tiny sweet little cap to a good day. :)

Your boy, BJR > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 11:47

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I didn't mean you specifically, I just assumed that “jug of shiner” was considered a legitimate unit of measurement in Texas.

RyanFrew > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 11:47

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??? What ???

I never said that the ad wasn’t sexist. In fact, I clearly stated that people who take advantage of this are sexists. I only added that I’m unsure of how to feel about the women who are a part of this, because I’m unsure of their angle. To that question, you have added no value. Are these women victims of sex trade? Willing escorts? People who have been manipulated into a bad situation?

The fact that we can’t use the expression “devil’s advocate” without violating someone’s PC feelings is mind boggling.

thebigbossyboss > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 11:48

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More or less. My friend was telling me I should move to Texas (whoops missed the mark on that one haha) but it’s strange because he’s never been to Texas.

Xyl0c41n3 > Your boy, BJR 05/22/2015 at 12:21

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Heh. I prefer the more standard unit of measurement: gallons of sweet tea.

Then there's our units of measurements for distance: oh, it's over yonder, just past the second pasture fence. :P

RallyWrench > EL_ULY 05/22/2015 at 12:22

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In all seriousness, you should tip this to Jez.

Dusty Ventures > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 12:23

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Imagine how much more brisket you could fit if you had the hatch

Xyl0c41n3 > EL_ULY 05/22/2015 at 12:29

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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeek!!! Felicidades! :)

EL_ULY > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 12:33

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siiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!! :]

Xyl0c41n3 > Dusty Ventures 05/22/2015 at 12:36

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GET THEE BEHIND ME, DUSTY! You will not convert me to the Cult of the Hatchback. :P

Dusty Ventures > Xyl0c41n3 05/22/2015 at 12:42

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Surrender! Surrender to the superior capability!

RallyWrench > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 12:43

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Well, I mean, would you welcome Guy Fieri? ;) The thing is, there are loads of women at the track, and sure there are trophy wives dragged along by douchebags, and a couple of teams still cling to flag girls, but there are huge (and growing) numbers of interested, knowledgeable female fans out there, and all it takes is one asshole encounter like this to turn them off. My experience is in sports car racing, but I have to admit, NASCAR has probably done a much better job cultivating the female fanbase.

yamahog > RyanFrew 05/22/2015 at 12:46

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We know literally nothing about any women involved in this, or if there even are any. So your concern trolling and devil’s advocacy (insinuating that someone willingly participating in this makes them just as “shallow” and culpable as the people making a profit off sexism) contributes nothing of value. This has nothing to do with being PC, as you seem to think that’s a bad thing, since everyone knows being pridefully offensive is cool and edgy.

Xyl0c41n3 > Dusty Ventures 05/22/2015 at 12:57

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I prefer this:

RyanFrew > yamahog 05/22/2015 at 14:05

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Haha I don’t think that using the term “devil’s advocate” is considered cool or edgy. The only thing I don’t understand is how you know that I’m “concern trolling”. How do you know my level of concern, here? And for the record, I’m not insinuating that someone willingly participating in this makes them just as shallow and culpable as the people making a profit off sexism....I’m wondering if the women are profiting off the sexism themselves. Like you said previously, women can be sexist, just as men can be.

All that my thought boils down to: Sexism is bad. This is sexist. The men who run this organization are bad because they are sexist. Are the women who participate bad, also? Or are they in trouble?

Stef Schrader > EL_ULY 05/22/2015 at 17:07

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Ewwwwww. That’s super creepy.

EL_ULY > Stef Schrader 05/22/2015 at 17:23

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Only like a trillion bazillion % creepy. Crazy huh? And it’s on multiple pages with different companies