What The Truck

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 04/15/2015 at 16:56 • Filed to: Truck Yeah, Survey

3

100

Informal survey time:

What is your definition of a "truck"? What are the minimum requirements for the acceptable use of the term? I wont advocate a right or wrong answer, but I am curious as to how people define the term.

HammerheadFistpunch > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 16:57

2

Speaking of which, looks like Truck Yeah is doing some spring cleaning

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 16:57

0

BOF, Optional 4WD, and a bed.

HammerheadFistpunch > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 04/15/2015 at 16:59

1

okay so you define it strictly as pickup trucks. interesting.

carcrasher88 > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:01

6

Yeah, and if you look closely at the 'T' and 'r'...

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:01

3

Truck - has a bed, is not a car.

Subaru Brat - not a truck

Honda Ridgeline - a truck (see bed rule above)

Holden Ute - not a truck

Cadillac Escalade EXT - a truck

Hummer H1 - not a truck

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:01

0

Need a bed. G-Wagon is not a truck no matter what pop-culture tells you.

Jcarr > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:02

0

Has a bed/uncovered cargo area.

Body on frame.

My wife has a coworker who drives a PT Cruiser and calls it a truck. It makes me sad.

HammerheadFistpunch > Party-vi 04/15/2015 at 17:02

0

what is a "car" cause the ridgeline is based on some pretty pedestrian stuff.

ly2v8-Brian > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:02

0

body on frame, uni acceptable when not car based. Also must be rwd biased.

HammerheadFistpunch > carcrasher88 04/15/2015 at 17:03

0

clearly intentional...which im sorta on the fence about.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:03

1

Either a Pickup or some sort of industrial vehicle that carries something on the back. I don't consider SUVs to be trucks, even if they have truck chassis'.

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:06

0

A Ridgeline is a Pilot with a bed. A Pilot is not an Accord, so is not a car. The Ridgeline is not a car, so is a truck.

EL_ULY > Party-vi 04/15/2015 at 17:06

0

this

HammerheadFistpunch > Party-vi 04/15/2015 at 17:08

3

The ridgeline shares chassis commonality with:

Pilot

MDX

Odyssey

TL

Accord

It is beefed up significantly, but it IS a platform mate to the Accord.

Future next gen S2000 owner > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:08

2

Couldn't think of an all encompassing def that didn't eliminate a truck or included something I didn't think was a truck.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:09

1

This is my Ranger:

Some people consider it a small truck, I dont. I dont consider it a small truck, I consider it a large car with a bed. I do that for the following reasons:

Its not 4WD

Its super tiny

HammerheadFistpunch > Future next gen S2000 owner 04/15/2015 at 17:09

1

probably the most honest answer yet.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 04/15/2015 at 17:09

0

So a Commanche isn't a truck? I came to a similar conclusion but the Commanche is definitely a truck.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:09

1

Does it have a bed? If so, it's a truck.

MK1 VW Caddy? Truck.

Subaru 1800 pickup? Truck. (the one sold in Norway was a two seater).

Ford F-650? Insanely big truck.

HammerheadFistpunch > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 04/15/2015 at 17:10

0

So X size and Y driven wheels are key components?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:10

0

Yes, cargo capacity has nothing to do with it.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:12

0

I use it colloquially to refer pretty broadly to:

- Pickups, including cars with beds.

- Body-on-Frame vehicles, including SUVs and full size vans.

- Largish 4WD cars with off-road chops like the Jeep Grand Cherokee, Land Cruiser, Nissan Pathfinder. However I would never refer to a Jeep Wrangler as a "truck", unless maybe it was the one with the bed.

- Semi trucks, most commercial vehicles.

We don't have kei trucks in the USA, but we do have Gators with beds. If you get one street legal, than I guess it's a truck too.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Party-vi 04/15/2015 at 17:12

0

So this isn't a truck?

MultiplaOrgasms > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:12

0

Any form of utility vehicle that has some kind of bed/exposed frame thingy that chassis cabs have

For Sweden > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:12

0

Noooooooooooooooooo :(

HammerheadFistpunch > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed 04/15/2015 at 17:13

0

This is certainly more inclusive than most people's lists here.

HammerheadFistpunch > For Sweden 04/15/2015 at 17:14

0

I'm not 100% stoked on it, I'll be honest.

Nibbles > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 04/15/2015 at 17:14

4

Small truck:

Large car w bed:

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:15

1

Truck truck truck lorry

Pickup truck or pickup

Shamoononon drives like a farmer > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:15

0

That's a biggin'.

lone_liberal > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 04/15/2015 at 17:15

0

Would the same Ranger with 4WD be a truck then? Or do you use size to draw the line?

HammerheadFistpunch > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 04/15/2015 at 17:15

0

so, again, specifically a pickup truck is a truck. In the sense that the "pickup" part is just dropped anytime you are talking about it and its just shortened to "truck"

MultiplaOrgasms > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 04/15/2015 at 17:15

0

Not a truck then

HammerheadFistpunch > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif 04/15/2015 at 17:16

0

not truck?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Nibbles 04/15/2015 at 17:17

0

The only difference I see between those 2 is about 5" of suspension travel

HammerheadFistpunch > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 04/15/2015 at 17:17

0

okay, so at least there is someone here that makes the distinction between the word "truck" and "pickup" or "pickup truck"

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > lone_liberal 04/15/2015 at 17:17

1

Only technically. A ranger is just a weird thing

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > MultiplaOrgasms 04/15/2015 at 17:18

0

no, thats a hatchback with the rear end lopped off

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:18

0

Not yet, needs tool boxes or flatbed!

Nibbles > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 04/15/2015 at 17:19

1

And unibody construction and drastically reduced cargo capacity and one is a truck, the other is a Thunderbird.

505Turbeaux > Party-vi 04/15/2015 at 17:19

1

Dodge Rampage?

VW Vanagon Westfalia (has a bed haha)?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:19

4

A vehicle used for actual utility. Doesn't have to have a bed, just needs to be capable and practical for work use. Anybody who says it needs to have a bed is daft. This is clearly a car, because it has no bed.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:19

0

I've never driven any of those vehicles other than an E350 van. It certainly felt like trucking to me.

On second thought; I would probably call a Subaru Baja, or similar, a "pickup" in a conversation. Calling it a truck seems kind of awkward and confusing.

HammerheadFistpunch > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif 04/15/2015 at 17:20

0

Seems arbitrary, what about now?

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Party-vi 04/15/2015 at 17:20

3

:(

505Turbeaux > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:21

1

a truck to me is anything you work out of as a tradesman. I have seen Silverados that are bitch mobiles and not trucks, and I have seen a Country Squire be a truck

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:21

0

What do I win?

HammerheadFistpunch > 505Turbeaux 04/15/2015 at 17:21

1

So a truck isn't built, its earned?

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 04/15/2015 at 17:22

3

Truck frame

Truck suspension

Truck bed

It's a truck.

HammerheadFistpunch > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 04/15/2015 at 17:22

0

seems truckish to me, but what do i know/

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:23

0

Would say that is a truck, close to van though.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:23

0

Well, I guess. We just call them pickups here though. Our word for truck is lastebil (car that can carry loads/goods), and we only use that if the car have a total weight of more than 3,5 metric tons. Personally I usually use the words Lorry or HGV when I talk about large/heavy vehicles in English.

I don't think we can agree on a simple term here, because it's not just about opinions, but about language and cultural differences as well :)

HammerheadFistpunch > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 04/15/2015 at 17:23

0

This is getting at the heart of my question. interesting.

505Turbeaux > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:24

0

call it what you want on the lot, it is what it does every day that makes it a truck.

Case in point - in Maine we have an exemption for "Fish Trucks" which is defined as a vehicle used for the purpose of delivering fish or lobster from the boat to the market, and to get your salty ass home at night. My girls dad - yeah he has used a damn Chevy Sprint as one. Even said FISH TRUCK - BAR HARBOR on the side :)

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:24

0

It's a truck.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > 505Turbeaux 04/15/2015 at 17:25

0

More importantly, when does driving a truck make you a trucker?

HammerheadFistpunch > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 04/15/2015 at 17:25

3

Not trucking much.

HammerheadFistpunch > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 04/15/2015 at 17:26

0

To a certain extent that is true, there will always be a cultural divide. I'm not looking for a definition so much as i am looking for attitudes regarding what isn't a truck.

1.21 JIGGA WATTS!!! > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:27

0

A vehicle that was originally designed to carry payload and/or tow significant loads above and beyond what most other vehicles can/ should carry/tow.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/15/2015 at 17:27

0

Nah man, that's a tractor unit.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:27

0

Er, yes please. I'll take it.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:27

5

Truck

Truck

Truck

Truck

Goose

HammerheadFistpunch > 505Turbeaux 04/15/2015 at 17:28

1

interesting. I think you are the only way that feels that a truck title isn't assigned at birth, its a unique perspective.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:30

0

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of vehicle I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["truck"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it .

HammerheadFistpunch > 1.21 JIGGA WATTS!!! 04/15/2015 at 17:30

1

It leaves the door open on the clause "other vehicles can/should" but the gist of it is that its a utility vehicle and designed from the outset as a utility vehicle...or more specifically...a vehicle with high utility factor.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:31

0

If I had to describe a truck in a very simple term, I'd go for "a vehicle used in or at work that is used to transport goods/tools but is not a van or a tractor"

HammerheadFistpunch > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 04/15/2015 at 17:31

1

HammerheadFistpunch > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 04/15/2015 at 17:32

0

good definition, what about recreational use?

PS9 > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:32

0

So the Ridgeline cannot be a truck if it's parts can be used to make other things that are not trucks? Because that means the F150, Silverado, and Dodge Ram are not trucks, as they all share parts with (respectively) the Expedition/Navigator, the Tahoe/Yukon/Esclade, and the Durango/Aspen. Actually, that excludes all their major competitors too, like the Titan (Pathfinder Armada/Infiniti equivalent) and the Tundra (Sequoia, Land Cruiser, Lexus equivalent)

HammerheadFistpunch > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 04/15/2015 at 17:33

4

Cop motor

Cop suspension...

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:34

0

Crap, forgot a word there.. I meant "a vehicle usually used in or at work that is used to transport goods/tools but is not a van or a tractor"

So an F-150 or a Mk1 Caddy would be a Truck regardless of use.

HammerheadFistpunch > PS9 04/15/2015 at 17:34

1

1. who says those vehicles AREN'T trucks?

2. The land cruiser/LX doesn't share a platform with the Sequoia/Tundra

HammerheadFistpunch > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 04/15/2015 at 17:35

0

Atractor unit? I've been called that.

PS9 > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:35

0

If they are, then so too is the Ridgeline.

HammerheadFistpunch > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 04/15/2015 at 17:36

0

cool, cutting through the cultural divide here on Oppo today!

HammerheadFistpunch > PS9 04/15/2015 at 17:37

0

If you choose to define it that way. My comment was aimed at the fact that the Honda Midsized Global platform is the base platform for the accord and the ridgeline. So now that I have you in the corner (i do, right?) can I ask you to identify what a truck is? (not what it is not)

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:38

2

I'd define it as a combined set rather than an intersection or exclusionary set. The set of real or simulated BOF-based vehicles with (usually) RWD-based drivetrain and a primary purpose of cargo for the base vehicle(usually) and not a van, combined with vehicles that have a bed.

Astro or Econoline (or Transit): would be a truck, if it weren't a van (single box body format).

Honda Pilot or new Explorer: marginal cases, probably not, because rather than starting from a cargo vehicle basis adapted for passenger moving, they're a really mutant minivan that simulates a truck. Too many strikes.

Honda Ridgeline: grudgingly, a truck. It *does* have a bed, though it's trending ute. Some wouldn't call utes a truck, I say let them in because they're a closer *functional* match than most SUVs are, even truck-based ones.

Ford Explorer (old version): A truck, because even with adaptation, the BOF setup, the drivetrain, and relatedness to a Ranger make it unequivocal.

Hummer (any): Trucks. Classic truck platform of chassis plus longitudinal engined drive of rear wheels outweighs more marginal "cargo" comparison, at least for the H1 and its not-based-on-anything platform.

El Camino: Truck, particularly due to retained BOF. However, silly.

Holden Maloo: Unibody, but still has a pickup bed. Just like a Subaru Baja, grudgingly a truck. If "shares platform with a wagon" were enough to disqualify things alone, then the classic Willys wagon trucks wouldn't count either.

Jeep Comanche: truck. As is the Cherokee up until recently - drivetrain, *structural similarity* if not actual BOF, and so on.

VW Caddy: even this, a truck, otherwise we start excluding other FWD joke-trucks, and if a Citroen 2CV Fourgonette isn't a truck, what in the hell is it?

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:39

0

Yup.. I see now that what I wrote don't actually make any sense in English though, but I've been awake for 48 hours so I'll give myself a pass on that one :P

HammerheadFistpunch > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/15/2015 at 17:40

0

I like this holistic approach.

HammerheadFistpunch > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 04/15/2015 at 17:41

0

dude....get some sleep.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:43

0

Also I consider things like the Honda Ridgline and the Chevy El Camino to be trucks. Also the Hummer truck thing, I also consider that a truck. Also, drive wheels don't matter. It really annoys me when someone refers to their truck, so I ask what they have and respond with a Nissan Pathfinder or something.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:43

0

I will, in a few hours..

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:44

0

It's meant to include both "does it function design-wise *like* a typical truck" and "does it work directly as a truck?" It's possible for things to only do one or the other, and even to do them poorly. If it doesn't even try for either, it's not a truck. Even if it has pretensions (I'm looking at YOU, Nu-Cherokee...)

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > Jcarr 04/15/2015 at 17:44

0

So this isn't a truck?

HammerheadFistpunch > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 04/15/2015 at 17:44

0

So you would take offense (or at least be bugged) if I called my land cruiser a truck?

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:45

1

Does it have a bed? If not it's an SUV.

HammerheadFistpunch > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/15/2015 at 17:45

0

I like this, i wont say what my personal feelings on the subject are, but this is pretty much it.

HammerheadFistpunch > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 04/15/2015 at 17:46

0

SUV =/= Truck? or put another way: only pickups are trucks?

Andrew P. Collins > carcrasher88 04/15/2015 at 17:47

1

...wait, what? I don't see it!!

Andrew P. Collins > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:49

5

IMO: a truck is anything BOF that's designed primarily for utility.

THAT SAID; the "Truck Yeah" site covers all things vaguely utility including Subaru Outbacks, Porsche Macans, and Chevy Traxs. Yeah, I'm not sure it makes sense either but that's the edict.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:50

0

SUV=/=Truck, but there are other trucks than just pickups. The Daihatsu Hijet is a truck, Transports are trucks, a pallet cart is a truck, but if it's intended to carry people it's either a van or an SUV.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 17:52

2

I think it's possible to have an Ur-Truck category without saying other things aren't trucks, but I think it's also possible to say a PT Cruiser being a "truck" is utter horseshit. FTR: an Ur-Truck would be straight rear axle, bed, RWD or 4WD, BOF. Anything less is a dimunition, but not necessarily not a truck. A ute is a step-child - some foreign genes/parentage in the mix, but part of the family and definitely related. A truck-SUV is the nephew, a unibody delivery truck is the black sheep (and may be outright adopted - but nobody is rude enough to ask). However, what matters is who is in the family, and who isn't.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 04/15/2015 at 17:58

4

Under govt classification it's a Heavy Duty Truck, but let's not kid ourselves, it's clearly a Lambo.

HammerheadFistpunch > Andrew P. Collins 04/15/2015 at 18:03

0

jkm7680 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 04/15/2015 at 18:06

0

Just don't call it anything to do with a Mustang with a bed and I'll give it a pass.

505Turbeaux > HammerheadFistpunch 04/15/2015 at 18:09

0

well, we know what they are meant to be at birth! Yeah I use my definition fluidly case by case. Works for me

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > jkm7680 04/15/2015 at 18:09

1

Well i do have a mustang engine and rear end, but thats about the only things about it that are mustangy

jkm7680 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 04/15/2015 at 18:10

0

Well so does the CVPI, but that's not really associated with the Mustang. And it's a V8.

Blondude > Jcarr 04/15/2015 at 18:11

0

The NHTSA classifies it as a truck, so technically they're right.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > jkm7680 04/15/2015 at 18:11

1

Exactly