You Know That Feeling When It Gets Real?

"For Sweden" (rallybeetle)
03/25/2015 at 23:02 • Filed to: None

It just got real. A military man privy to the investigation wanting to seem important and told the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! that one pilot was locked out of the Germanwings cockpit, banging on the door trying to get back inside. If true, it's bad.

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DISCUSSION (15)

scoob > For Sweden
03/25/2015 at 23:10

getreal.exe

getreal.exe is already running.

ttyymmnn > For Sweden
03/25/2015 at 23:12

Of course, after 9/11, it makes sense to lock the flight deck. Perhaps now it's time to rethink the process. Perhaps a combination lock the other pilot could open? You wouldn't want a key that could be taken. I'm sure we'll be hearing about the other pilot soon. let's hope this isn't a nefarious deed.

For Sweden > ttyymmnn
03/25/2015 at 23:14

Oh locking the flight deck is still smart. They are supposed to have a cabin crew member in the cockpit whenever a pilot steps out. Something went wrong here.

Jcarr > ttyymmnn
03/25/2015 at 23:15

I was reading in the comments on one of the articles on Gawker that there is some sort of way to access the cockpit if it's locked, but that can be overridden by the pilot. Helpful if everyone on the flight deck is incapacitated, but not so much if a pilot/person with ill-intent is in there and alert.

ttyymmnn > For Sweden
03/25/2015 at 23:16

I understand that. But if one of the pilots gets locked out, there ought to be a way for him to get back in.

For Sweden > Jcarr
03/25/2015 at 23:19

This is true. The pilot in the cockpit has to actively keep the other person locked out.

Jcarr > For Sweden
03/25/2015 at 23:25

Probably not likely that this override system could be inadvertently triggered by an innocently incapacitated pilot I suppose.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > For Sweden
03/26/2015 at 00:17

Swede, this will be the official dumbest question but....is it possible that somehow both pilots locked themselves out? (Yes, I know it would be a major breech of protocol)

For Sweden > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast.
03/26/2015 at 00:19

Not dumb!

If everything is working mechanically, that isn't possible. If the door is locked, the pilots can initiate unlocking the door. The pilot inside the cockpit has 30 seconds to reject the request and keep the door locked. If no action is taken in the cockpit, the door will unlock.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > For Sweden
03/26/2015 at 00:48

Good to know. Can I ask, are you a airline mechanic, pilot or air marshal? In addition to Baja Bugs, you always seem to have a good bit of detail on the ins and outs of planes.

For Sweden > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast.
03/26/2015 at 01:03

I'm an aerospace engineer specializing in safety.

DipodomysDeserti > ttyymmnn
03/26/2015 at 07:56

Already answered

Jayhawk Jake > For Sweden
03/26/2015 at 08:37

I actually did not know that. I figured there had to be some way to get into the cockpit in the event that one pilot left and the other became incapacitated.

Unfortunately that also implies that this was deliberate...

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > For Sweden
03/26/2015 at 11:46

Well, after a good night's sleep since you posted this, it sadly looks like you were correct. Honestly, I think it is the same thing that happened to that still missing Malaysian air flight. I don't think it had anything to to with terrorism, it had to do with someone losing their minds.

For Sweden > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast.
03/26/2015 at 11:54

I don't think you are wrong.