"Street Surgeon" (coryislost) 02/23/2015 at 08:31 • Filed to: None

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Mr. Regular got his hands on a Corolla. What do my fellow Opponauts think of these cars?

Alex from Toronto > Street Surgeon 02/23/2015 at 08:54

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It's good.

Mattbob > Street Surgeon 02/23/2015 at 08:58

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I think it needs an alignment.

KirkyV > Street Surgeon 02/23/2015 at 09:00

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Well, I like the cartoon, soooooo...

Nonster > Street Surgeon 02/23/2015 at 09:08

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I'm a fan for all the same reasons I like my AW11 MR2. The 4AGE engine sounds great and has tons of character

The anime is pretty entertaining too

jariten1781 > Street Surgeon 02/23/2015 at 09:11

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When they were available as regular, slightly worn used cars in the 90s? They were shit. A 3rd gen Prelude was infinitely better for the same price if you could get over the FFness.

Today they're basically canvases. Each and every one still out there tooling around is some mish-mash of 30 years of different owners dicking around modifying them. Every one is so different it's kind of hard to make a call.

daender > Street Surgeon 02/23/2015 at 09:14

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They're cool, old but cool.

GhostZ > Street Surgeon 02/23/2015 at 09:16

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I am still firmly rooted in the "Shit cars that are way overpriced, the idea of a specific modified example forming an idea in everyone's head of what it should be like." camp.

The AE86 is nothing like Keiichi Tsuchiya's modified car. It is nothing like the Initial D car based off that car. Unless you're spending $25,000 on a TRD race engine from the AE111, completely revised suspension, stripped interior, etc. then you're buying into a pipe dream.

It's like someone who buys a Honda Civic 4-door because they want to be like that one scene from Fast and the Furious, ignoring the fact that they were only using civics because they could get underneath semi trailers.

Fookin' Prawns > Street Surgeon 02/23/2015 at 09:40

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I've been on an import kick recently and there's something really cool about seeing these in the States. Handles well, nice engine noise, unique looks (with the long hood for such a short car), and I don't mind the Initial D paintjob.

The older Corollas remind me of my dad's car growing up, an AE92 GT-S. I remember riding around in the front seat, and getting to shift the gears. Definitely something I wouldn't be opposed to purchasing in the future.

MultiplaOrgasms > GhostZ 02/23/2015 at 10:07

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I am with you on this one. 85s and 86s were essentially antiques when they were new. The chassis was a carryover from the KE70 from the 1970s, complete with live rear axle and shit, yet they get romanticized a lot, mainly for being the last of the affordable rear wheel drive commuter cars. They may have been fun to drive in a 1960s muscle car sort of way, only with a lot less power, but the only real plus side of a bone stock one was that 4A-G. It's only when you start modifiying them that they become the Touge monster the public perceives them to be.

GhostZ > MultiplaOrgasms 02/23/2015 at 10:18

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Well, truth be told, they weren't at a lack of power in their home market. They really were like muscle cars in that sense, given they had the same power as a larger touring car, but were quite light, without being excessively powerful. Comparing it to other Japanese cars at the time, I would equate them to about a 250-300 HP car today, much like a Mustang V6, weighing around 2800lbs.

We always forget that the Mustang originally wasn't that powerful, it had a small engine (289 ci) compared to larger touring cars. They made 200 HP SAE .

Street Surgeon > GhostZ 02/23/2015 at 10:48

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Yep, to me these cars are just overpriced, underpowered, dream machines.

GhostZ > Street Surgeon 02/23/2015 at 11:00

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The Japanese DeLorean.

MultiplaOrgasms > GhostZ 02/23/2015 at 11:11

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Like I said, the big selling point of them was that 4A-G.

Oh, and that Mustang came around when the average family car in Europe and Japan had somewhere between 50-75 hp. It's equivalent from across the pond, the Capri, made an astounding 188hp in it's most powerful form, which came along nearly 20 years later (and had a Turbo). Likewise the Manta made just 140hp in it's most extreme form, also from the 1980s. Did I mention that the early Mustangs were rather lightweight cars?