![]() 02/10/2015 at 19:54 • Filed to: Audi R8 | ![]() | ![]() |
Of course, we should take online news with a grain of salt, but given the route most European sports cars are going right now and into the future...
Apparently, the 4.2L N/A V8 may not be available in the next R8. The V10 will be offered "initially", but this bit from the text is a bit worrying:
There were some talks about a plug-in hybrid version with the aforementioned 4.2-liter V8 engine teamed up with an electric motor but apparently the eight-cylinder will be replaced by a V6 or even a four-cylinder motor likely with turbocharging assistance.
So.....I guess this can only be described as a "new kinda fun"? Or hurry up and get an R8 before it's replaced and 1st gen values shoot up?
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![]() 02/10/2015 at 19:58 |
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MORE V10 PLEASE.
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:00 |
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frankly, id LOVE a hugely powerfull turbo diesel.
its not the their lemans cars have powerful tdis OH WAIT.
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:03 |
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Hmm, looks like the competition is going to ACURA now.
Interesting...
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:03 |
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ALL THE V10s
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:04 |
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You think the NSX is going to replace this?
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:19 |
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Bad news for the R8 is good news for me if they intend to keep on trucking with this body style.
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:23 |
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I'd love a TDI version. Although it's unlikely to be in my driveway.
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:25 |
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This gives me many many sads.
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:31 |
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You act like V6 and I4s can't be good motors for a supercar. The Jaguar Cx75 (whatever that stillborn supercar is called) made one of the best noises I have ever heard. The supercharged v6 Renault Alpine concept sounded incredible. The Nissan GT-R makes as much power as its V8 competitors.
Open your mind a little.
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:31 |
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So we were thinking R8s would depreciate.... maybe not!
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:32 |
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Maybe Honda knows all this and most cars in that class will be turbo V6 hybrids. Makes sense.
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:34 |
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No clickety clackety manual gear box.
No V10 noises
No care
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:49 |
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Umm okay? I'm not entirely sure where you can come off telling me to "open my mind" when I'm perfectly content with the likes of the Alfa 4C, the fact that 911s are going turbo across the line aside for the GT3, the Cayman/Boxster lines going turbo-4s, and Ferrari going turbo with the 488. Or even something as awesome as the XJ220.
For what it's worth, V6 supercars are pretty sweet. 4 cylinder supercars, just not a fan. They don't sound nearly as good nor do they excite me in the slightest way.
![]() 02/10/2015 at 20:55 |
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Any info on MANUEL?
![]() 02/10/2015 at 21:01 |
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Well you found it "worrying" about the switch to smaller motors and with a degree of sarcasm called them "new kinda fun" in my post about the M2 you outright scoffed at the idea of a turbo 4. So you say your open to the idea of, at the very least, 6 cylinder supcars but your words say differently.
![]() 02/10/2015 at 21:18 |
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I am actually a bit worried about it. I mean sure, in the name of efficiency and performance, smaller displacement turbo engines are clearly the best thing since sliced bread. But I can't help but feel that it's a trend that isn't going away and is in a small way making all cars "the same". Having different sized N/A engines with unique characteristics, like the E9X M3s 8000+rpm V8, same with Porsche and Ferrari high revving motors, being replaced with low-torquey turbo motors, that's a very important characteristic to me. Ferrari and hopefully Porsche have solved this with low pressure turbos and some magical means of allowing linear power response with turbos, but it's still losing something. Noise isn't important to some but it is to me. It's also frankly quite annoying when people refer to these new cars as the new old model, like how the 488 is the new F40, or how the Mustang Ecoboost is the new SVO, but they really aren't, they just aren't. I'm hopeful that sports cars and super cars can maintain their identities with their engines in this annoying "eco-friendly world" but it does worry me some.
the "new kind of fun" was the same thing someone told me when I was debating about electric cars, so I figured it'd be a proper choice of words to use here. So it was a bit sarcastic, but it was funny to me.
I personally don't want an M2 with a turbo-4 because that's been done to all hell in the last 2-3 years alone. Every hot hatch, econobox is almost a turbo-4 now. As I said, they simply don't sound that good, they all nearly sound the same, it's just a turn off for me, and I drive an ST! If the M2 was a turbo-4, I simply wouldn't want one.
It's just my opinion.
![]() 02/10/2015 at 23:26 |
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Having an opinion is fine but when discussing news leading with a loaded title and then giving your opinion before laying out the facts and the fact you didn't explain your opinion is the reason I commented. Most of us know the 488 is not the 'new' F40 nor is the Ecoboost Stang the new SVO but these brands need to create some sort of lineage to their past so that consumers who aren't in the know feel some sort connection to the brands history.
And if the 488 GTB is the 'new' anything it is the 'new' 288 GTO. Which I'm okay with cause I prefer the 288 over the F40. And on that bombshell, its time for me to go to bed.
![]() 02/11/2015 at 14:15 |
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I've been reading about this for a while. Audi is actually super far behind. I read that they wanted to do away with both the N/A V8 and V10 when the new model launched but they weren't able to get over some engineering hurdles. They've had trouble keeping their existing TT V8 cool enough when testing the R8 with it. Ferrari might be OK with having more than a couple cars catch fire when a new model is launched but Audi wants to keep fires to a minimum.
![]() 02/11/2015 at 14:15 |
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I've been reading about this for a while. Audi is actually super far behind. I read that they wanted to do away with both the N/A V8 and V10 when the new model launched but they weren't able to get over some engineering hurdles. They've had trouble keeping their existing TT V8 cool enough when testing the R8 with it. Ferrari might be OK with having more than a couple cars catch fire when a new model is launched but Audi wants to keep fires to a minimum.
![]() 02/12/2015 at 12:02 |
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Just because it might not get the naturally aspirated 4.2, doesn't mean it won't follow the whole-industry trend toward turbocharging.
Huracan shared V10 is a fairly safe bet, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were a ~3.6-4.0 Liter twin-turbo V8 from the S6/S7, which is likely derived from two e888 turbocharged I4 engines on a shared crankshaft, as a new power-dense and fuel-efficient baseline model. V10 may then get relegated to R8-GT like special-model limited production status.
Ferrari 488 GTB, McLaren MP4-12C/650S/675LT, and Porsche's rumored conversion to all-turbocharged flat-6 and flat-4 engines.
For better, or for worse, that seems to be the direction, and Audi has a history with turbocharged engines.