What car(s) would make you change your automotive bias?

"spanfucker retire bitch" (lelykon) 02/05/2015 at 13:09 • Filed to: None

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We all have our own quirks with our cars. Our specific wants and desires out of our vehicles. Some are the engine, some are the transmission, some are as simple as always wanting heated seats, or maybe always having a moonroof.

But what car do you want so badly, that speaks to you so profoundly, that you would change your automotive habits to own it and drive it?

For me, I'd learn how to drive a manual for either the GT350 or the new Ford Focus RS. Those two cars are simply remarkable. I love their looks, I love their sounds, I love the engineering and talent that has gone into making them.

And I love dat ass on the Mustang.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:11

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Im pretty open to anything automotive. As long as its not auto. I hate my auto dd. My talon needs to be fixed soon

Übel > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:12

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Learn to drive manual anyways, it's a good skill to have just in case.

TheHondaBro > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:12

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I'm a JDM freak, but I'd do anything for a Hellcat.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:14

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I would give up a manual if it means I can haz PDK right now.

spanfucker retire bitch > TheHondaBro 02/05/2015 at 13:15

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Horsepower makes you do strange things.

TheHondaBro > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:16

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And also I'm a bit of a sucker for Mopar muscle cars.

E. Julius > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:18

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I much prefer smaller cars to bigger cars. I would be willing to make an exception for 70s, 80s, or 90s S Class.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:18

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Sadly I don't really have any habits. I'll drive anything. I used to drive manuals a lot more frequently, but they honestly became a royal PITA in rush hour traffic. And my wife refuses to learn how to drive one.

I have heated seats now, and I really don't need them. I do admit I'm a fan of keyless entry though, but what new car doesn't have that these days?

davedave1111 > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:19

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Not quite what you mean, but I just bought a car which has changed my driving style/habits. A mint-condition 1989 Camry is surprisingly capable when pressing on, but it really doesn't appreciate being hustled. It's much happier just sitting back and cruising, which isn't normally how I drive - but it just instils a sense of quiet unhurriedness.

spanfucker retire bitch > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 02/05/2015 at 13:20

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You'd be surprised at some vehicles that don't have keyless entry.

nermal > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:20

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I settled for an automatic because I wanted a new full-sized truck, but didn't want a Chrysler product (due to bad experiences with my previous Jeep & local dealers).

It's the first auto I've owned, but I am getting used to it.

spanfucker retire bitch > davedave1111 02/05/2015 at 13:21

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Habits might be the wrong wording to use. I've corrected the title with "bias."

Basically, what do you usually desire and/or require in a car, but would give up and/or change for a specific vehicle?

Like the other person who posted how he prefers small cars, but would make an exception for a classic S-class. Or the one who prefers JDM vehicles, but would make an exception for the Hellcat.

HammerheadFistpunch > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:23

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I settled on an auto to get the car I wanted, so there is that I guess.

camaroboy68ss > TheHondaBro 02/05/2015 at 13:25

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too bad all them Hemi Muscle cars see Chevy Small block tail lights

Snuze: Needs another Swede > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:26

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I'm a GM guy, its what I grew up with and what I know. But I do love that GT350R. Flat plane cranks make me moist.

A few years ago I got to drive a Ferrari 458 - I loves me some 3 pedal driving but if I could afford a 458, I'd do it in a heartbeat. The twin clutch in it was phenomenal... I even loved how it hunted for gears in automatic mode at low speeds - like a thoroughbred in a stable begging to be let loose.

Lastly, on a more realistic note, I loathe SUVs, and aside from one truck I've always owned cars. But I am falling head over heels in LOVE the new Jeep Renegade. I was a Boy Scout and used to camp and hike a lot, and in the last couple years I've been getting back into that, so I'd love to have something a little more adventuresome than my Cruze. Right now I borrow my parents GMC 4x4 crewcab, and I appreciate them letting me use it, but its getting long in the tooth so it may not be a viable option much longer. The Renegade seems like the perfect car to me - it would be a great commuter car, but on the weekends I could throw a tent, fishing pole, and rifle in the back and get out into the wilderness.

spanfucker retire bitch > HammerheadFistpunch 02/05/2015 at 13:27

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I suppose if you're forced or back into a corner, it's pretty much what I'm asking. At least in the vein of it.

What kind of car you got? I'm sure you've posted about it, but I have the memory of - what are we talking about?

camaroboy68ss > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:27

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I usually always let color combos slide first. I'd rather have a puke green big block 4 spied muscle car than the better looking 250 I6 and powerglide

Justin Hughes > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:27

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I don't like FWD. But I'd totally rock another B13 Sentra SE-R.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:27

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GM only, but I'd have a Fiesta ST, Dart SRT (if they actually end up making it) or a Renengade.

spanfucker retire bitch > Snuze: Needs another Swede 02/05/2015 at 13:29

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I know what you mean about crossovers/SUVs. They've never appealed to me. Not even once. They sit too high, they list too much in corners. Never wanted one.

But the new 2015 Ford Edge Sport, with the TT V6 is giving me that tingly feeling. I want one bad, but I can't tell you why.

HammerheadFistpunch > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:29

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I always think I post way too much of my car, but It sounds like im not posting way too much enough...wait, what?

djmt1 > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:29

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So it's slower than a McLaren 650s.

Not as advanced as a GTR

Lacks the luxury of an AMG GT

Doesn't sounds as good as a F-Type

and so inappropriate to own in England that the Queen would bitch slap some sense into me

BUT

It's a big, loud, yellow, power-sliding, 200 MPH, manual wedge of joy and how can you not love that.

Lekker > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:32

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This. What you just posted. The new line-up for the ever lasting blue oval has won me over. Never in my life did I expect to say"I'll take on of each of your new cars, Ford ". But here I am, finding myself lusting over the Mustangs (not just the GT350 brothers), the Focus RS and that new Raptor. Their quality, innovation and all-round style have gone through the f#$^#%&ing roof!!!!!!

With the words I know my previous self would eat with rage...I WANT THOSE FORDS. No matter how you look at them, visually, performance, not entirely useless... all of these vehicles have totally changed my view on Ford. I tip my hat to you

spanfucker retire bitch > djmt1 02/05/2015 at 13:33

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I would take a Z06 any day of the week over all of those other beloved vehicles.

spanfucker retire bitch > HammerheadFistpunch 02/05/2015 at 13:34

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Ahh, duh. Of course, how could I forget? I always read about your offroading adventures.

See? Like I said, my memory is balls.

Captain of the Enterprise > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:34

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I hurt my back recently and really appreciate good comfortable seats.its not fun to drive when you are in pain the whole time. This is leading me towards a new ride. I also like rwd but if I'm honest never drove a fwd on a daily basis so I could get used to it and like it.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:34

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I'd give up all the power, size, and creature comforts I love for a blast in an original Mini or some sort of kei car.

spanfucker retire bitch > Captain of the Enterprise 02/05/2015 at 13:35

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I keep hearing that Volvo has the best seats in the industry.

crowmolly > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:36

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For many years Jag had no redeeming qualities to me. Old guy styling, poor reliability, performance that was outgunned in every direction.

Now? Not so much.

spanfucker retire bitch > crowmolly 02/05/2015 at 13:37

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Oh god yes. I don't think I've ever wanted a Jag before. Now I want the XF, the F-Type and I can't wait to see how the new XE and next-generation XJ do.

DrScientist > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:38

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i'd drive a minivan if it came with 350-400hp and rear wheel drive.

:)

Shift24 > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:40

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Huge GM pushrod V8 fan boy here but i would take that RS any day. The styling needs improvement, not a fan of the massive Aston grills, but that car is going to be a force to be reckoned with.

The only other Blue oval id consider would be a 'dega. Just that tail alone makes me want one.

GhostZ > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:40

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I'm against most modern and new cars, but the new Miata, and BRZ make it hard to defend that, especially with some people getting crazy lease deals or getting prior model year ones at discount.

I also have a bias against 4-cylinders under 2.0l, but the Alfa Romeo 4C makes a tough case for highly turbocharged tiny engines.

I have a feeling the upcoming new Z and Alfa Romeo Spider are going to make it even more difficult too.

On the OTHER end of things, I love big muscle sedans, but I have a feeling that living daily with a Charger V6 would break my resolve in how great 'murica is. It would sway my bias AWAY from those cars.

spanfucker retire bitch > DrScientist 02/05/2015 at 13:42

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Wasn't there an AMG that did that already?

GhostZ > camaroboy68ss 02/05/2015 at 13:42

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How the hell did a redneck from the late 70s get ahold of a time machine and a computer?

If you make it back to your own time, please warn them about 9/11.

GhostZ > TheHondaBro 02/05/2015 at 13:42

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We all are, secretly.

44444444444 > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:43

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I dunno... I am pretty stuck in my habits. I really lean towards AWD, turbo'd, sleeper wagons and I don't see that changing... I'll probably only buy older Volvos and Range Rovers for the foreseeable future. Until I buy a 997 eventually. Or an E63AMG.

EDIT: Totally forgot the E63 AMG existed.

GhostZ > djmt1 02/05/2015 at 13:45

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It's also easily $30,000 less than all those other cars too, unless you compare the Z06 with the base F-type. That gives it some strong pull than if it was more expensive.

spanfucker retire bitch > 44444444444 02/05/2015 at 13:45

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So no E63 AMG wagon for you in your future?

44444444444 > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:47

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Totally forgot the E63 AMG existed... How I forgot don't know. In 3 years (when I graduate engineering school) I'm gonna buy either a 997 or an E63. Probably an E63.

DrScientist > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:48

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there was that amg r class, yes. but i kind of exclude it from the true minivan category as it doesn't have sliding doors. maybe i'm just being too picky.

hell, i dont even have kids (yet), dont know why i'm thinking about minivans.

spanfucker retire bitch > DrScientist 02/05/2015 at 13:51

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Probably because you're weird.

Join the club.

spanfucker retire bitch > 44444444444 02/05/2015 at 13:52

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Definitely E63. You remove the badging from it, and unless someone knows specifically what they're looking for, it's almost identical to the base E-Class wagon.

It's such a good sleeper.

djmt1 > GhostZ 02/05/2015 at 13:54

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Not quite in England where it sits in between the GTR and F Type but I see it as a combibation of the two. The speed of the GTR combined with the Chaos of the Jag.

DrScientist > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:55

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i'm a founding member of this club!

MIATAAAA > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 13:56

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I was just thinking this morning:

I would give up a manual, if I had children to tote around, for an E63 wagon.

Captain of the Enterprise > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 14:00

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Well I'm a poor college student so I don't see a Volvo in my immediate future. I've heard they have fantastic seats. My only way in would be a seat swap as I'm not buying a new Volvo and don't trust a used one in my price range. Time to google volvo seat in crown vic

I would drive the shit out of a new XC90

Its just so beautiful

spanfucker retire bitch > MIATAAAA 02/05/2015 at 14:01

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I'm not a huge fan of wagons. I generally don't like the proportions too much and prefer the small, better proportioned hatchbacks, like the Focus above, or the Mazda3, V40, etc.

But an E63 AMG Wagon? I'd DD and hoon the shit out of that.

DoYouEvenShift > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 14:09

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Makes no sound, only 2 pedals and 1 gear.

But damn it. I loose my shit when I think about this car.

spanfucker retire bitch > DoYouEvenShift 02/05/2015 at 14:12

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This car is nowhere near outside of my own biases, but:

I loose my shit when I think about this car.

Same.

Matthew Phillips > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 14:14

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I drive like a should own Prius.... But I really like my Full size v8+ sedans.

After the Crown Victoria i would love a 70's Chevelle El Camino.

Cherry_man1 > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 14:15

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I would learn stick for a Viper or a 599 or something like that. I mean I'm die hard Ford but there is something about the Dodge Viper in either Black with white stripes or White and blue or blue and white I just love to death.

Matthew Phillips > Shift24 02/05/2015 at 14:17

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What is that !!!

It looks like an Adult Mustang !!!! I WANt IT!!!

Matthew Phillips > davedave1111 02/05/2015 at 14:24

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That's how my Taurus was, it was perfectly happy going at it's own pace, but when you needed it to get to business it would do it, but it would hate you afterwards.

I miss that thing

Matthew Phillips > DrScientist 02/05/2015 at 14:29

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Buy an econoline 8 Passenger, Drop it a few inches, insert a dual turbo 5.0 with six speed manual.

Hoonsville

fhrblig > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 14:30

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I would put up with an automatic to own a Raptor. I don't really have a lot of hatred for autos, except in pickup trucks.

spanfucker retire bitch > fhrblig 02/05/2015 at 14:31

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The Raptor and GC SRT are also vehicles that I'd love to own, but have literally no reasons to do so. They're bigger than I'd ever need a vehicle to be for my needs, but I want them badly. Can't explain it though.

AMC/Renauledge > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 14:40

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Without a doubt I'm a strange person. I just want to get that out of the way before I make the following confession:

I would give up my MT requirement to get a Buick Cascada - Buick's first convertible since 1991.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?!?!?

CPT Speedbump > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/05/2015 at 14:41

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Car's I would take in Auto.... err... A big truck to tow my track car with maybe?..can't think of any vehicles I'd take that I really want that are auto, or that are auto that I wouldn't do a transmission swap almost immediately.

spanfucker retire bitch > AMC/Renauledge 02/05/2015 at 14:44

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I'm generally considered quite strange for even wanting a Buick Regal GS, but the Cascada? Nah brah, nah.

Nah.

AMC/Renauledge > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 14:59

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I know!!! Depending on the price, I might get a Verano Turbo 6MT instead. More power and pedals. But I really want a fold-away roof!

Sam > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/05/2015 at 15:04

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I agree. If I could have a PDK in every car I drive forever, I would be completely happy with never driving manuel again.

Shift24 > Matthew Phillips 02/05/2015 at 15:06

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Its a 1969 or 68 Ford Torino Talladega with a ford BB 429

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 15:30

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Honestly, it's that RS. For that I would be okay with changing 3 of my biases in one shot: buying an american car, a focus, and a wagon.

I'd also be willing to buy a hatchback for the Golf R.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 15:48

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This is funny - I'd be willing to forgo my beloved three pedals for a while to own a 991 GT3.

Dusty Ventures > 44444444444 02/05/2015 at 17:14

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Which sleeper wagon do you have now?

44444444444 > Dusty Ventures 02/05/2015 at 17:30

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A 6 speed Volvo V70R

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 17:49

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I have already changed my bias. And I bought an AWD V6 CUV... a used Toyota Venza. I wish mine were this sophisticated blue, but silver doesn't do too bad, and doesn't attract undue traffic fine collector attention.

I used to be much against SUVs and CUVs. I was wrong. They are amazingly versatile and practically capable vehicles, without being as bulky as a truck or truck-based SUV, and far more flexible than any sedan, without paying much of a fuel economy or handling price.

It is no performance car. No bones about that. If I didn't also have a Miata, I would sorely miss the thrill of driving. The V6 is powerful enough to make the vehicle move with confidence, but it isn't a thriller in terms of power or handling, but it doesn't wallow or flounder, either. Generally a comfortable, stable, and quiet cruiser.

But in terms of road-tripping, general household cargo uses, and occasional passengers... it does quite well, and is nicely equipped for a great price.

Venza has the benefit of looking a bit more car-like than most other vehicles in it's class, with the short side windows, and wide track-width. Not overly tall and narrow as some mid-range 5-seat CUVs seem to be.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > DrScientist 02/05/2015 at 18:01

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A MAN-i-van.

I wouldn't even mind a bit of CUV-like ride height, as long as it wasn't too outrageous... and rear-biased AWD would be great.

I don't know why sliding rear doors aren't more popular... aside from most minivans being so boring as to induce numbness even to look at them.

Saracen > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 18:29

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Should be learning to drive a manual anyway.

Saracen > spanfucker retire bitch 02/05/2015 at 18:30

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I'd learn how to drive an automatic for a Panamera GTS, RS7, or an E63 S wagon.

spanfucker retire bitch > Saracen 02/05/2015 at 20:16

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Nah.

spanfucker retire bitch > Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) 02/05/2015 at 20:18

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Extreme hot hatches are so lust worthy.

spanfucker retire bitch > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/05/2015 at 20:24

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I seem to have bitten by the Crossover bug as well after years of having absolutely no desire to own anything higher off the ground than a mid-size sedan.

The 2015 Ford Edge Sport is shouting my name.

DrScientist > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/06/2015 at 13:35

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i imagine the sliding mechanism requires a van or wagon or suv like rear section behind the doors. that said... i'm sure some engineer could figure out how to rig a sliding rear door onto a standard 3 box sedan shape.

i actually spent some time with a gentleman who used a wheel chair for a significant portion of his time. he had a custom made bmw 5series GT, with rear doors that swung suicide style, with no B pillar, for ease of ingress/egress. one giant sliding door would probably serve equally well.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > DrScientist 02/06/2015 at 20:54

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I was figuring on crossovers. It does preclude wide rear fenders, though.

Minivans trying to look like SUVs hasn't worked well in the past (Chevy Venture...), but I wonder if there is a way to make CUVs/SUVs more practical with sliding doors, or something other than traditional hinged doors for a wider opening, without making the swinging doors too wide to open in a parking space next to other vehicles.

Suicide doors unfortunately form traps in parking spaces, trapping people in the space for the door arcs, the people can't easily get out of that area, and the the doors can't close to allow egress with people standing in the way.

DrScientist > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/06/2015 at 21:14

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ha. the image of that in my head is amusing.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > DrScientist 02/06/2015 at 21:16

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I haven't figured a way that it doesn't look ridiculous, either. ;-)

Manuél Ferrari > Sam 02/13/2015 at 15:17

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;(

Manuél Ferrari > spanfucker retire bitch 02/13/2015 at 15:20

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I *might* be OK with a car that had a turbo charged engine and flappy paddle gearbox if someone bought me one of these:

samssun > spanfucker retire bitch 02/18/2015 at 20:46

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Driving a Golf R would probably make me a VW fan (I'm not anti, just ambivalent since they won't make anything R/AWD).

If Toyota or Honda would make something RWD, under 3400 pounds, with FI and 6+ cylinders it would change my mind, but until then my bias is confirmed by reality.

Saracen > spanfucker retire bitch 02/25/2015 at 12:11

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addendum to my previous post...I think I'd be okay driving a PDK if it meant a 991 GT3/GT3RS.

spanfucker retire bitch > Saracen 02/25/2015 at 12:13

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I figured you'd ignore that and go right for the Cayman.

Saracen > spanfucker retire bitch 02/25/2015 at 12:15

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I would try it, but I have never fit in Caymans very well.