Screw IPA's

"505Turbeaux" (505turbeaux) 09/18/2014 at 11:00 • Filed to: None

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Finally someone said it. They suck. I think my best friend said it correctly this morning on Facebook: "Seriously though, guys. I'm just about all Hopped out. How come if a cook puts a ton of salt in your dinner you say it's too salty? And if the person behind the counter at D&D puts too much sugar in your coffee you say it's too sweet. But when a brewer loads as many hops as humanly imaginable in a beer you say it's the greatest fucking thing ever and I'm a jerk for disagreeing with you? Does it mean I don't like good beer...I hope not...I could name you a few dozen great local-hipster-craft-artisan-micro-brews that take it easy on the hops and make a beer that tastes like beer instead of a bottle of perfume soaked potpourri. At this point I think it's prudent to mention that Portland (all of it) needs to brew a new beer. I'm pretty sure that every major release for the past three years has just been trying to capitalize on the farmhouse-saison-hipsta-pils wave of success. Somebody make me a porter for the winter."

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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:03

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The local Highland Brewing Company makes a good Oatmeal Porter. I ought to go get some after work.

CalzoneGolem > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:03

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Fucking hops!

We went out for beers one time and my wife ordered beers while I was gone. She got me something called Hoppy Devil. Fuck. That. I mean I drank it because it was beer but I made her try some. That was priceless.

Tim > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:03

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I love all beer as long as it's not fruit flavored. Coffee flavored dark beers are even okay when you need a little kick in the nuts to make it through the day. Ahhh, day drinking.

Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:05

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PREACH ON!!! I can't stand IPAs. Give me a good Stout any day.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:05

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Fuck IPAs.

Sincerely,

A Stout Man

Dubblewhopper > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:06

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That is why I only drink true Belgian Ales, and not these fly by night micro-brews.

As Du Volant > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:07

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IPA's can be great if they're well made, but yes, it seems like many brewers these days just dump a ton of hops in and call it done. A good IPA is hoppy but balanced.

CalzoneGolem > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/18/2014 at 11:07

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Stout beer is best beer.

crowmolly > CalzoneGolem 09/18/2014 at 11:08

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Hop Devil? From Victory?

As Du Volant > CalzoneGolem 09/18/2014 at 11:08

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I believe you're thinking of this one:

ttyymmnn > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:08

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You have my vote of support. I'm a Pilsner guy. Can't stand that hoppy crap.

Jacques L' Autre > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:08

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IPAs aren't my favorite, but I enjoy them from time to time. A few years ago I went on a tour at the Weyerbacher brewery, if you've never had any of their offerings I'd highly recommend trying one of their beers. The guide for the tour talked a little bit about hops, and why certain people love bitter hoppy beers like IPAs, and others would much rather have a wheat beer, or something not as hoppy. According to him it was that the more bitter beers you drank the more your taste buds would be overloaded. So if you drink IPAs all the time you'd need to go for consistently more hoppy ones to still get your fix, so to speak.

CalzoneGolem > crowmolly 09/18/2014 at 11:08

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Yeah. Funk dat.

TillTheWheelsFallOff: Brocoma > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:09

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I'm so glad I'm not alone. I think half the time folks say they like IPAs because it's "in" right now.

As Du Volant > Tim 09/18/2014 at 11:09

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And that's the problem with fruit beers. 90% of them are made wrong. Fruit beers aren't supposed to taste like fruit, they're supposed to taste like beer... with a hint of fruit flavor.

CalzoneGolem > As Du Volant 09/18/2014 at 11:09

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Yeah whatever. It was an assault on my taste buds.

Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish > Dubblewhopper 09/18/2014 at 11:09

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Chimay, Delirium, Barbar, Trappiste?

pdx107 > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:09

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Yes, I'm from Portland, but I am not a crazy IPA fan, I like some of them, not the super hoppy ones but specific ones aren't so bad.

I am still pissed Widmer got rid of their winter Milk Stout....

Leadbull > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/18/2014 at 11:09

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Pictured: Arch Duke Maxyenko, SHAZAM!

nermal > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:11

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This is correct. IPAs are like drinking a bottle of perfume that a neiborhood church lady has been hoarding for 15 yrs.

Fruity beers are the correct answer.

ColoradoTaco > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:12

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That's the great thing about beer, there's a ton of different styles so drink what you like. Just because you don't like IPAs doesn't mean your only other choice is swill.

Grindintosecond > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:13

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Living in "Hopplorado" everything seems to be a hops nirvana. There are other types but the volume is on hops. I don't mind it but there's a point. Hopsnasty is nasty. Stouts, nice dark ales, american wheats are great for me, just dont give me any pislner BS. Drink medicine instead.

Grind-pinion on beer.

For Sweden > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:13

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This post is Mod Approved

As Du Volant > pdx107 09/18/2014 at 11:13

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You want a couple of good dark New England beers, I'd suggest Mean Old Tom by Maine Beer and Narragansett Imperial Black Steam.

Yes, Narragansett. They've started making craft style beers in the past couple years and unlike the wannabe craft beers that Anheuser-Busch makes they're actually pretty damn good.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:13

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I'm planning on reading that in a few minutes, I've never been into IPA's.

My favorite beers are Ambers. Hey do you have Untapped? great app to keep track of beers

ColoradoTaco > nermal 09/18/2014 at 11:14

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See, I love IPAs and think fruit beers are for ladies. But it's only my opinion drink what you like and enjoy life, it's too short to hate on (any style) beer.

Dubblewhopper > Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish 09/18/2014 at 11:14

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Chimay Grand Reserve, Rochefort 10, Orval , Westmalle Tripel, Lindemens Lambic ales, and Achel.

Edit- And illegal Absinthe

ColoradoTaco > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 09/18/2014 at 11:16

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Untappd is awesome! Add me if you'd like, mcgov5520

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:17

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Fuck IPAs.

Sincerely,

The Wheatbier contingent

multiple wheels for each day of the week > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:17

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Give me Lager or give me death ... or hefe

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:18

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I like a few IPA's, but I steer clear of most. I do enjoy Lagunitas and to a lesser extent, Sierra Nevada. But my favorite beers are often Pale Ale's. I'm also a big fan of Leffe, Coors Banquet Beer and Heffeweisen's. But IPA's? Really... Why I are they so popular? To me they are often too bitter and too hard to enjoy, in other words, NOT enjoyable.

505Turbeaux > multiple wheels for each day of the week 09/18/2014 at 11:18

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both are solid choices

Tim > As Du Volant 09/18/2014 at 11:22

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You said it. A local brewery San Tan, has a pineapple beer and let's just say there are a LOT of them in my fridge because out of every variety 12er they tend to get picked last or not at all. Now they are my, guest beer for girlfriends or wives of friends visiting the house...
Had a blueberry beer in Silverton, CO once that was how a fruit beer should be. Amazingly good.

mXxxxXm24 /O/ /O/ > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:23

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Different beers pair with different foods. What are you drinking your IPAs with? Most people just order beer with out a consideration of pairing. Rethink that. Also IPAs are NOT all equal!..they have different tastes!

505Turbeaux > mXxxxXm24 /O/ /O/ 09/18/2014 at 11:24

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I pair my IPA's with my thirst for the 5-9% ABV that is hiding in there, that is all :)

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 09/18/2014 at 11:25

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You should bring some of that next time. I also need to find me some dunkelweizen. For insanity sake.

marvthegrate > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:25

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If you like it, drink it. There's something for everyone. I *love* IPA personally. I also love Kolsch, Pilsners, Stouts and many more. My palate tends towards the bitter side, so IPA work the best for me. The problems I have with belgians is that I don't like belgian strain yeast. I know it's part of what makes them unique, but it doesn't work for me. And even beers I don't like I can appreciate the quality without personally enjoying the flavor.

Any Untappd users should add me, marvthegrate.

mXxxxXm24 /O/ /O/ > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:29

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Got ya, but saying you hate all IPAs after a couple bad ones is like saying you hate cars after driving a Prius.

mr2gud2u > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:33

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Preach!

pdx107 > As Du Volant 09/18/2014 at 11:36

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But we cant get those in the other Portland.

pauljones > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:37

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I like IPAs when done correctly - see Dogfish Head's 90-Minute as a great example. But, like you, I tend to care little for the niche IPAs that try to race compete for being the hoppiest ever. When I see things like "Hopocalypse" or "Hopsplosion" or crap like that, it's an automatic turn off.

That being said, there is the common misperception hops are necessarily bitter, and correspondingly, that hoppy beers must also necessarily bitter. Depending on the type of hops used (bittering or aromatic), the method of brewing, and several other factors, what would seem like a very hoppy beer based on the description might actually be quite mild.

For myself, though, I tend to trend towards saisons, blondes, and lagers on the lighter side. If I want something a bit darker, there are various excellent stouts and porter out there.

I would also recommend making a foray into sours; they make great sipping beers with just as much depth of character as an IPA. I predict that sour beers will be the next big beer movement as we see the IPA craze start losing momentum.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:37

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I prefer a big, dark, malty stout or Belgian ale (black or wit, either is acceptable) or, for right after mowing the lawn when I'm all sweaty, some sex-in-a-canoe beer like Rolling Rock.

Too many assholes with pretentious moustaches, fixie bikes, and tight jeans love their IPAs, when it often tastes like a Coors Light full of ground-up aspirin.

Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:37

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A good IPA is a great thing, but the format has been played out for 2 or 3 years now, and it's essentially devolved into a a hopiness competition, which is both dumb and unenjoyable.

I don't get the hate for farmhouse/saisons/sours, though. There are a lot of mediocre versions of these formats being made (as is the case with every format, including and especially porters and stouts), but the best things happening in beer right now involve wild yeast, period.

505Turbeaux > pauljones 09/18/2014 at 11:38

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the 90 is a great example of how to do it, and I actually love it. Good comment right there overall. I love sours, probably until they figure out how to make it so much so that it is undrinkable.

Trunk Impaired 318 > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:40

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YES, THIS. The answer is not more hops but better quality malts.

CKeffer > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:40

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Eh, while I do agree that IPA's are way overrepresented in craft brew beers, I also like them. Then again, I also like stouts, brown ale, Irish Reds, kolsh, saisons, and pretty much all the other types too, with lambics and fruity beers being a major exception (blegh), and wheat beers leaving me indifferent. My issue is that so many breweries try and cash in only on what's "popular" at the moment, and wind up ignoring the huge variety of beers that are possible to make. My fridge isn't filled with just one kind of beer, I've got 6ers of lagger, bombers of specialty stouts, bottles of nut brown ales, and whatever struck my fancy at the liquor store the day I went last.

As Du Volant > pdx107 09/18/2014 at 11:40

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Ah, I was thinking of east coast Portland.

JEM > As Du Volant 09/18/2014 at 11:42

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Well, Portland, ME is the original one :-)

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > pauljones 09/18/2014 at 11:44

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If you like blondes and lighter lagers, I recommend dabbling into some Ambers, there are some really good ones out there

JEM > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:44

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I don't like IPAs either - then again - I really dig sours so I'm just a weirdo all around.

Textured Soy Protein > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:45

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I agree, I am very much not a member of the IPA bandwagon. I'm not a huge fan of porters or stouts either though.

While taking a break from corporate America, I worked in the kitchen at a Belgian beer bar/bistro type place. Which turned me on to Belgian strong ales like Duvel and Gulden Draak.

Otherwise, living in Wisconsin where there's a large German brewing history, I like a good lager or kolsch.

LuczOr > Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole 09/18/2014 at 11:45

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DARK BEER DRINKERS UNITE!

Whenever I go into a bar, I always order the same exact thing.

"Give me the darkest thing you have on draft."

Mattbob > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:48

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IPA's are good at certain times of the year. You just can't do them all year long, thats the key. Now that it is getting colder, I switch to darker ales and stouts. MMMMMMMM Dunkel

Mattbob > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:51

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My question to you: Have you ever had a sour beer? Not a bitter beer, but a sour beer. You would know if you have. Now those are a fad beer. Also fucking terrible. I like IPA's but I see where your coming from. I'm not always in the mood for one either.

Mattbob > pauljones 09/18/2014 at 11:52

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Good hopps have a sort of grapefruit flavor IMO.

LuczOr > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:52

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AMEN.
As a local Portlander, I have been saying the same thing for the past 5 years. People always grab their spades and pitchforks when I say it, but they can never tell me why "it's the best beer."

For the record, this is my favorite. Awesome flavor and you only need one 22oz-er with that ALC by volume.

smashthegas > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:53

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Exactly! It's so easy to mask a poor brew conditions or ingredients with a ton more hops. The best beers have flavor in moderation, where the flavor changes subtly and leaves a nice impression, not barge in through the door.

Mattbob > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 11:53

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you actually like sours?????? and not IPA's???? I just don't get you man.

505Turbeaux > Mattbob 09/18/2014 at 11:55

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yes I have, and it isnt too bad. Not my go to for sure. There is a local brewer around here that makes only an IPA and is self described as "getting fisted in the mouth with hops". Now that shit is terrible, and I agree with them

505Turbeaux > JEM 09/18/2014 at 11:56

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it is weird because so do I!

ceanderson920 > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 12:00

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Holy Shit! I didn't think I agreed with this many people about IPA's. IPA's always seem fucking dry to me, I don't want to drink beer that will just make me more thirsty. I'm more a wheat beer guy myself but after about 4 beers I switch to something different like Whiskey.

505Turbeaux > LuczOr 09/18/2014 at 12:04

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likely the other Portland (I am from OG Portland East Siyeeeed) but surely the same on both coasts!

cabarne4 > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 12:06

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Wheats and Pilsners, all day every day.

There's a couple good IPAs out there, but not many. And I live in one of the biggest IPA towns in existence (Flagstaff, AZ).

BigBlock440 > mXxxxXm24 /O/ /O/ 09/18/2014 at 12:09

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Not necessarily. I'd say it's more like saying you hate hybrids after driving a prius. Sure, there are a few done right (918, P1, theferrari), but most taste very similar.

BigBlock440 > Mattbob 09/18/2014 at 12:10

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What's a sour beer?

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Leadbull 09/18/2014 at 12:22

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What is that

William Byrd > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 12:26

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Agree 100%, I'm over it. I went to the Great American Beer Festival in Denver a couple years ago, it was just too much. Hops in everything. I like hops, I don't need to be beaten over the head with them in every beer. I like seasonal beers, a nice citrus'y summer beer, a pumpkin or or some sort of fall beer, a nice spiced winter beer, etc. I can do without IPAs at this point.

Leadbull > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/18/2014 at 12:29

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A stout man.

mXxxxXm24 /O/ /O/ > BigBlock440 09/18/2014 at 12:29

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Agreed. After I posted what I did...I re-thought it and came to the same conclusion lol

Mattbob > BigBlock440 09/18/2014 at 12:37

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It's a beer that tastes sour hmmmm. Its hard to describe, here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sour_beer

pauljones > Mattbob 09/18/2014 at 12:47

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Flavor depends on a great many things, not the least of which is the style of hop. From there, there are a great many other factors (beer style, other ingredients, brewing techniques, etc.) that can influence the final character that the hops impart in a beer.

As for sours, they can be a fairly unpredictable sub-category of beers for a number of reasons. To start with, traditional sours are made by allowing wild yeast strains or bacterias into the brew - a process that can often be more an art than a science. Secondly, sours are a traditionally small market here in general, and in the US in particular. Most people don't have as much experience with them. And, finally, as they being to catch on, many microbreweries are trying different variations and hybrid beer styles inspired by traditional sours.

That being said, there's nothing like a good sour, and many of the hybrid sour styles I've come across have been fantastic. Sours have as much character and complexity as any IPA, and the style tends to have a greater depth, given the conceptual ease that it can be mixed with other styles.

I highly recommend trying a few.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Leadbull 09/18/2014 at 12:50

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That is disturbing.

Also, no gender.

pauljones > Dubblewhopper 09/18/2014 at 12:52

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That's... exceedingly narrow-minded.

If your reason for not trying the variety of different beers that microbrews bring to the table is that you don't like them for making IPAs, that's pretty extreme. And frankly, there are some pretty bad Belgian beers out there, too. Not only that, but many American microbreweries make Belgian-style Quads, Tripels, etc. I would also assert that in terms of Witbiers, Farmhouse Ales, and IPAs, traditional Belgian breweries have been far outstripped by many contemporary American microbreweries.

BKRM3 > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 12:55

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There's room in beer appreciation for everyone's opinion. That said, you're wrong. As a brewer and a beer nerd, I can tell you that what you're categorically rejecting is the AMERICAN IPA as a style, not all IPAs. The traditional (i.e., "real" English) IPA style does not emphasize - or even include - a dry hopped floral fresh-cut-grass-in-the-face nose, which is what you don't like. In fact, I bet you'd be hard pressed to distinguish most English IPAs from an American pale ale or, heck, even some amber ales depending on what we're talking about.

Also, "farmhouse" and "saison" have nothing to do with IPAs.

If you don't like hop-forward beers that's totally cool, there are like 8 billion porter, stout, other ale and even (gasp!) lager varieties for you to enjoy. THAT'S what's totally fantastic about how popular craft beer has become. Just so happens a lot of people who like craft beer like hops. I get it, the struggle is real!

pauljones > Mattbob 09/18/2014 at 12:59

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The surge in IPAs over the last decade was also little more than a trend/fad. It happens in the beer world. Different regions go through different beer fads. IPAs are on the way out. A few of the best IPAs that have been extremely successful will stick around as a tribute to the style, but the mass of smaller (and sometimes lower-quality) IPAs have already begun to disappear in the North East. Sours are on the rise, though there seems to be something of a trend towards de-centralization in terms of dominant beer styles, especially after what we saw with IPAs. The sheer number and proliferation of IPAs got to so overbearing as to turn away many beer fans, something that I believe beer culture will try to avoid again. In addition to the rise in sours, I've also noted a rise in dark ales, quads, tripels, and wheats.

BigBlock440 > Mattbob 09/18/2014 at 13:05

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Ok, so it's not a separate category/flavor. I was wondering because I had never seen it, or even heard of it before. Doesn't sound like I'm missing out though.

BlurpleToyotaDishwasher > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 13:34

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I like IPAs, but every now and again you get one that just takes it to crazy levels simply because they can. Not as bad as porters that take things as far as they can and end up tasting like sewage, but still pretty bad. :/

Still, even those I'd take over the dismal Carlsberg Lime thing that I'm drinking now. At a third of the price of the actually nice beers I thought it would be decent enough for the money... It's so bad that if someone offered me it for free, I'd turn it down :(

LuczOr > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 13:40

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Portland, OR is basically the beer capital of the United States. Not to mention the west coast style IPA is furiously bitter. As such, the abomination is localized here. Portland brewers tend to think that "bitter" and "better" are so close in spelling and pronunciation that they may as well be interchangeable.

505Turbeaux > LuczOr 09/18/2014 at 13:48

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Rogue Dead Guy is one of my favorites though, that is from your neck of the woods!

Mattbob > BigBlock440 09/18/2014 at 14:04

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ehh, it really is a separate category when you get into the ones that are brewed specifically to be sour.

Mattbob > pauljones 09/18/2014 at 14:06

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mmmm yes. Agreed. Even though I like IPA's I do agree that IPA's have hit peak popularity. People do get way into them... It's just another beer. Just like those damned Dave Matthews band fans.

Mattbob > pauljones 09/18/2014 at 14:09

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I admit that I've had some Belgians that can be construed as a sour have been absolutely amazing. My bad experiences with sours have been at the Michigan Beer fest where some breweries make beers just to be super sour. I just can't do that. Just like IPA's that are just way too hoppy without regard to flavor.

LuczOr > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 15:19

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Dead Guy is a damn good brew. I just drove by the brewery last month.

I am Jack's complete lack of compassion > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 15:24

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Man, fuck IPA's. They are nasty. Well put, 505.

I like a good ale, amber or red. No fruity shit either.

BZiel > 505Turbeaux 09/18/2014 at 19:01

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This should help.

Thisnewformatisrubbish > mXxxxXm24 /O/ /O/ 09/19/2014 at 08:48

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Food? I find beer goes best with more beer.

mXxxxXm24 /O/ /O/ > Thisnewformatisrubbish 09/19/2014 at 11:41

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Naturally. As long as you enjoy what you drink, nothing else matters...there are no rules to abide by!

PardonMyFlemish16 > 505Turbeaux 09/21/2014 at 10:39

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The whole IPA thing is pretty ridiculous. It's just a way for people to act like they are beer aficionados.

The whole history of them explains why they are so awful. They made them strong and hoppy as fuck so they could be transported between India and Britain without going bad. I'm guessing from India to Britain? So yea, like I said on my Facebook when I found this out, IPA is the freeze dried ice cream or canned vegetables of beer.

Just had a nice coconut porter with my wife at some bar last night.... so much interesting stuff going on outside of IPAs in the beer world.

asindhidude > BZiel 09/21/2014 at 11:31

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My man.

GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo > 505Turbeaux 09/22/2014 at 09:24

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I really only like the Harpoon IPA or the Dogfish Head 90. I noticed I have been ordering Allagash White a lot when I go out to bars recently.

Also I recently tried the Harpoon Boston Irish Stout and it was better than any other Stout I have had, highly reccomend if you can find it.

Furthermore I am not afraid to say that I am also a fan of pumpkin flavored beers, the few that I've tried are very good.

505Turbeaux > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 09/22/2014 at 09:27

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I just cant drink too many of the pumpkins, I wake up hating myself the next day. Dogfish 90 is great, Harpoon IPA is stellar but it gets me hammered too quick. You must be a new englander with this list. They make Allagash right down the street from my house

boobytrapsandtreasure > 505Turbeaux 09/22/2014 at 10:37

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IPAs are fine but they've been done to death. I prefer hard ciders or stouts.

yarble10 > CalzoneGolem 09/22/2014 at 13:23

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You are talking about Victory Hop Devil! And it's one of the lesser IBU IPAs.

yarble10 > As Du Volant 09/22/2014 at 13:30

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IPA's from Michigan tend to be more "balanced" than the IPA's from Pacific NW or Cali. I mean, I tried a beer called Resin from Six Points which had 110 IBUs. Just stooopid. Could not finish it. Arcadia Brewery makes some really good English style ales that do not disappoint.

CalzoneGolem > yarble10 09/22/2014 at 13:42

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Yes, I am. If you took the time to read the thread you would know that.

Gamecat235 > cabarne4 09/22/2014 at 18:50

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Biggest IPA towns in existence? Flagstaff couldn't even keep Mogollon Brewing in business. I am disappoint.

Sidenote, am very saddened, still, that I will never have Skunk Ape ever again.

GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo > 505Turbeaux 09/23/2014 at 09:50

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I'm from CT...so like the redheaded stepchild of New England

505Turbeaux > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 09/23/2014 at 09:51

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lol I am from shoreline CT myself. Very redheaded stepchild of new england, but still legit

mattc993 > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 10/03/2014 at 00:09

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ZE HEFEWEIZEN

yarble10 > CalzoneGolem 10/29/2014 at 00:18

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wow, so much for a non d-bag response. Nice talk.