What is the car that is least talked about on oppo?

" V8 Rustler" (handschaltgetriebe6) 09/14/2014 at 16:08 • Filed to: None

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I nominate the Lancer Evolution. I don't see many posts of this car.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:11

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I think Stef(?) has a Lancer that got posted about a little but otherwise you're right I don't see a lot about these.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:12

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VW Quantum

GhostZ >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:14

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Better question, which car is the least talked about but should be talked about more.

We used to talk about the Evo a lot more, before it got... dull. I think the Ralliart is more interesting now, since it's a much better deal.

I'm going with Mitsubishi Pajero.

Steve in Manhattan >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:15

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True - maybe a week back I suggested someone take a look at a used one, but that's all I've seen lately. I've mentioned my mom's '77 Aspen (d. 1984) more often.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:16

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Hummer H1

Mercury Villager

Mercury Monterey

Dodge Lancer

Packard Pacific

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:17

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Volkswagen Caddy?

Blondude >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:17

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Oppo needs more T-Bird.

KnowsAboutCars > GhostZ 09/14/2014 at 16:19

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Yes! Pajero Evolution (and the regular ones too) deserve to be talked about.

KnowsAboutCars >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:20

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Audi A2.

Sweet Trav > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/14/2014 at 16:23

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Cordoba's

Grenada's

Parisienne's

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:24

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Toyota celica. I really like these and I think they should be talked about more.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > KnowsAboutCars 09/14/2014 at 16:27

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I like these for some reason.

 V8 Rustler > GhostZ 09/14/2014 at 16:31

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That one looks good. The new one it too big.

 V8 Rustler > KnowsAboutCars 09/14/2014 at 16:32

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While I find it boring, I do find it impressive that it has an aluminium space frame.

GhostZ >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:33

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Your comment can apply to pretty much every car manufactured in the last 30 years.

 V8 Rustler > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 09/14/2014 at 16:36

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That was a Lancer GTS. Which means the Evo is less talked about.

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/boldly-going-w…

Dusty Ventures >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:36

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Chevy Venture

 V8 Rustler > Blondude 09/14/2014 at 16:37

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Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Dusty Ventures 09/14/2014 at 16:52

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I raised your Chevy Venture with a Saturn Relay

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/14/2014 at 16:56

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I would even add in the Hummer H3, because kick ass(sounding) engine and available manual.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 16:59

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I will nominate the Pontiac Vibe GT(Or Matrix XRS). In the first generation it got the wonderful 2ZZ, and the second generation got a bigger, yet less powerful(more torque) 2.4. Neither were a slouch at low 7 second to 60 times. Plus they are pretty fun to drive, and dead reliable.

Saf1 >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 17:04

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To Be Discontinued! Hopefully tuners keep making Evos as it's a huge shame the Lancer is dying...and the last few were losing the plot anyway

1337HPMustang > Blondude 09/14/2014 at 17:07

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oh yeah! Is that a '55? The '55s had pipes that came out of the bumper in the coolest way possible. I love how every year was different.

kaheff (L20E) > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 09/14/2014 at 17:11

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I see them as funky Priusses (is this a word?) but with real engineering. It's a missed opportunity for Audi.

Tapas >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 17:18

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Pontiac Solstice. I've always wanted to know what its like but I haven't seen any discussions about it...

 V8 Rustler > Tapas 09/14/2014 at 17:32

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I've seen many posts about its brother, the Saturn Sky.

sellphones2493 >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 17:36

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This little turd - a Suzuki Reno.

Tapas >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 17:41

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Hmm I need to find them :)

sm70- why not Duesenberg? >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 17:54

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Mini Cooper S. It handles like a go-cart, and is one of the best hot hatches on the market in the US, yet no one posts about it. Ever. Even during talks about hot hatches, it's like, "Ohm we have the Golf GTI, the FoST/FiST, and uhhh...I think that's it." How does everyone always forget the Mini?

Steve in Manhattan > Sweet Trav 09/14/2014 at 18:00

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Any excuse to post this video:

Sweet Trav > Steve in Manhattan 09/14/2014 at 18:01

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You sir, win all the internets.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/14/2014 at 18:03

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It's price. It only really competes with the FiST, but it starts at $24k.

Steve in Manhattan > Sweet Trav 09/14/2014 at 18:04

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Funny that he calls it a "small Chrysler" - today it's considered a land yacht.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/14/2014 at 18:05

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It starts at exactly the same price as the Golf GTI and only $500 over the Focus.

Dusty Ventures > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/14/2014 at 18:06

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I see your Saturn Relay and raise you a Chevy Celta

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Dusty Ventures 09/14/2014 at 18:08

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I see your Chevy Celta and raise you a Stanley Steamer.

 V8 Rustler > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/14/2014 at 18:13

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Reliability.

Steve in Manhattan > Sweet Trav 09/14/2014 at 18:17

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And forgot about this:

banjo cat ghost of oppo past > GhostZ 09/14/2014 at 18:22

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I was just gonna do a thing! The nicest car I found in that entire volvo yard was a near blemish free Ram Raider (no sr20) begging to be yanked out and project-ized, could probly get it for $200 I'm looking into it. With the right color and the grill/headlights blacked out they kinda look like mini Rovers if you squint hard.

Aaannd the easiest engine swap is the 2.6l turbo from Starions : ).

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 18:22

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This little thing.

While drab and mundane, it's sales and sales of other cars just like it from other manufacturers keep those companies in the black allowing them to give things that we enthusiasts crave.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/14/2014 at 18:23

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Sure, it's fun to drive. But if you ever get it serviced you might as well total it because BMW only accepts payment in the form of 'spare' organs, first-born children, and weekends of depraved sexual acts with your significant other.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > kaheff (L20E) 09/14/2014 at 18:44

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I think I like the way they seem fit for purpose. They're a good economical but quality runabout. Also I personally think they look great.

EL_ULY >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 18:52

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Lamborghini Huracan, Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice/Opel Speedster, and current BMW Z4

sm70- why not Duesenberg? >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 19:03

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They aren't THAT awful.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 09/14/2014 at 19:06

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I've never heard that from people I know who own one. I know it's more expensive to service than a Ford, simply because BMWs are more expensive to maintain than Fords. But how bad can it be? It has to be cheaper than a 3-Series.

wantafuncar > GhostZ 09/14/2014 at 19:09

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+1.... I came here to post something similar.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/14/2014 at 19:13

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Don't let that MINI badge fool you, it's still a BMW underneath.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 09/14/2014 at 19:15

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...I just said that.

Blondude > 1337HPMustang 09/14/2014 at 19:17

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The one I posted is a '57 (the fins are a bit pointy-er). The '55s were awesome.

They also look pretty good restomoded.

Jack Does Cars > Dusty Ventures 09/14/2014 at 19:24

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I never do see any reference to those mid-2000's GM vans.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/14/2014 at 19:25

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BMWs are NOT more expensive to maintain than a Ford or any other make of car. Ze Germans just want you to think they are so they can justify their crazy service prices. That BMW badge is the only reason you pay more.

The parts they use have the same amount of time spent engineering them, otherwise they wouldn't meet current safety standards. But because BMW uses German engineers, they must charge more for their parts than others.

Therefore, since the MINI is just a BMW in a different coat, it's much more expensive to own and maintain than the equivalent type car from anyone else. There is zero reason for a small, FWD hatch to be so expensive to service when you can get the same thing from anyone else.

Vicente Esteve >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 19:37

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Volkswagen Eos? I like them a lot.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 09/14/2014 at 19:55

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So a BMW is no more thoroughly engineered or built than a Ford?

 V8 Rustler > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 09/14/2014 at 19:58

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What is it? Looks malaise to me. Oppo needs more malaise.

 V8 Rustler > EL_ULY 09/14/2014 at 20:03

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I've yet to see a Huracan post in oppo.

I've seen some recent posts about the Z4. There was one opposite lock review recently.

There is someone who posts about his Saturn Sky Redline.

 V8 Rustler > Vicente Esteve 09/14/2014 at 20:05

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Those were crazy expensive when they arrived. Te acuerdas cuanto costaba aqui en Mexico cuando salio?

 V8 Rustler > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 09/14/2014 at 20:06

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VW Brasilia?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 20:11

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DAMNIT I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT TOO! I EVEN HAVE A HOTWHEELS ONE!

Dusty Ventures > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/14/2014 at 20:21

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I see your Stanley Steamer and raise you an Abbott Model-44

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Dusty Ventures 09/14/2014 at 20:25

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That's it, I'm all in.

The Eisenhuth Horseless Vehicle Company Compound

Dusty Ventures > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/14/2014 at 21:23

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The "Car Without A Name"

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/14/2014 at 21:24

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Given how stringent our modern safety standards are today, everything is built to the same safety requirements. Is a BMW better engineered than a Ford, or a Honda or a Toyota? The BMW dealer would tell you absolutely. Were they at one point in their history? Certainly.

But any brand car will get you to your destination equally as well. Is everything equally as nice to drive? That I cannot answer, but do not buy into any hype until you drive anything yourself. Brand snobbery will only limit your choices and eliminate wonderful driving experiences

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Dusty Ventures 09/14/2014 at 21:28

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Covert

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/14/2014 at 21:32

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But size and performance wise, it competes with the FiST, and being a BMW it will break down immediately after the warranty ends.

Dusty Ventures > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/14/2014 at 21:34

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Black Crow

Vicente Esteve >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 21:37

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Como $370,000 . Demasiado caro

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Dusty Ventures 09/14/2014 at 21:39

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Rochet-Schneider

Dusty Ventures > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/14/2014 at 21:44

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A Dragon that has nothing to do with Ray Wert or Corvette

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 09/14/2014 at 21:45

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I've driven many BMWs, and many Fords. And I have driven many other cars from all across the price spectrum. And I can tell you, no matter who makes it, there is a quality difference between a more expensive luxury car and a lower-tier car. Is every last cent of the premium price justifiable? Of course not, but certainly, some of it is. Does that mean a Mini is worth the higher repair bills over a FiST? Depends who you ask.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Dusty Ventures 09/14/2014 at 21:48

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Dusty Ventures > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 09/14/2014 at 22:05

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Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Dusty Ventures 09/14/2014 at 22:07

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ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/14/2014 at 22:19

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Quality does not always equal engineering. Some of that quality comes from simply using better materials. Does that mean you should pay the same for a Ford and a BMW? I never said that. I also never said that BMW wasn't worth more than a Ford or a less 'luxurious' car.

Only that believing that paying a premium for service is somehow a priveledge. The cars have to meet the same set of standards, so the parts should be roughly equal. You're paying extra owning a BMW because it has that badge on the hood. Is it worth it? That's for someone else to decide.

DarrenMR >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 22:24

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Mercury Topaz!

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! >  V8 Rustler 09/14/2014 at 22:26

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Chrysler K-car. Early variant. Circa 1981.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 09/14/2014 at 22:28

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I don't get what your point is.

hike > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/14/2014 at 22:47

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How about the Vibe GT-R?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > hike 09/14/2014 at 22:50

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 V8 Rustler > DarrenMR 09/15/2014 at 14:58

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hm.