Last Post Before Bed - Future Classics

"Makoyouidiot" (makaan12)
07/11/2014 at 00:22 • Filed to: futureclassics

Simply put, who here thinks the car they run now is an honest future classic? I'm not so sure on mine, I know the '13 Mazda3 isn't, while the '95 240sx surely is, given that it's already appreciating, and the '12 500 could be, as it's iconic and also it was the first year of Fiat's return to the states, and in a rarer color at that, so maybe. The Nissan doesn't really count to me, since I only aquired it as a project/flip car, and I DD my Fiat.

DISCUSSION (46)

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Makoyouidiot
07/11/2014 at 00:26

Kinja'd!!!

I think the FoST and FiST will be nice future classics. The only 'Murican hot hatches right now and somewhat low volume production so far. I think they've got a fair chance.

Milky > Makoyouidiot
07/11/2014 at 01:00

Love it or hate it, it will be. It looks unique, has a good story and was a sales flop, thats a recipe for a classic (albeit a distant one).

Kinja'd!!!

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Milky
07/11/2014 at 01:09

more like "cult classic" then Classic.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Makoyouidiot
07/11/2014 at 01:12

My car now is not for sure. No modern(made after 2000) Civic will ever be a classic Maybe the EP3 just for being the last Civic hatch in the States. (if we're only talking about being a Classic in America.)

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Makoyouidiot
07/11/2014 at 01:16

I don't don't own one but I've driving one and loved it. Future Cult Classic. it's rare, it's fast, it's ugly, and no one liked it when it was new.

Kinja'd!!!

therevengeofthesaab (really likes pre-2005 hondas right now) > Makoyouidiot
07/11/2014 at 01:30

Nissan Cube. The design is so unconventional that it's timeless, like a first gen Fiat Multipla (Also a future classic). Maybe a Suzuki Kizashi

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Makoyouidiot
07/11/2014 at 03:04

the family elantras? no way
The Jetta? i'd wish it so, but not likely, since it's a mainstream 2.5SE. maybe because it's a stick, but I doubt it.
The GTI? It's a "Wolfsberg" edition, with a stick, and it's 100% stock, so maybe

N51fanatic > Makoyouidiot
07/11/2014 at 06:03

Kinja'd!!!

128i M-Sport, allow me to explain why....

Normally Aspirated Straight six, 6 speed manual transmission, Hydraulic steering, 2 door coupe, relatively light (for BMW).

Our own Patrick George had this to say

http://jalopnik.com/why-the-bmw-1-…

With "only" 230 horsepower to play with, some speed freaks have overlooked the non-turbo 128i, but I feel like one day, the car's purity will get the attention it deserves.

Here's what I'm thinking: some 10, 15, or 20 years from now, the 1-Series may be what the E30 is to buyers today. It will be for people who want a small, purebred sports coupe with impressive performance for not a lot of money. If you find one that hasn't had the crap kicked out of it, it will make for a fantastic enthusiast bargain.

Milky > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
07/11/2014 at 07:37

… well played sir.

DipodomysDeserti > N51fanatic
07/11/2014 at 10:20

You can get CPO variants pretty cheap too.

DipodomysDeserti > Makoyouidiot
07/11/2014 at 10:26

Kinja'd!!!

1. The Abarth. It's a very mad little car that's fun to drive and I don't think FIAT will keep selling it here for very long. Maybe.

2. 2011 BMW 335d. A discontinued bi turbo straight six diesel sedan making 265 hp and 425 lb.-ft. of torque. Possibly.

3. 1991 Subaru Loyale. 4WD, 5 speed wagon. Very fun to drive, but they're are tons of them in the NW and they're usually beater cars because they're so cheap. No.

N51fanatic > DipodomysDeserti
07/11/2014 at 10:48

The M-Sport 6sp varient are unicorns.

Cars.com currently has 40 6sp 128's in inventory nationwide. Of those 40, only 13 have sport packages, and 1 is an M-Sport

Autotrader.com currently has 50 6sp 128's in inventory nationwide. Of those 50, only 2 are an M-Sport, 15 or so regular sport package.

This one here looks to be a pretty good deal. 2011, 58k miles, 6sp. Zero options, sunroof delete. Only negative to me is it has halogens instead of zenons. You could probably get this for like 17k all day.

Kinja'd!!!

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/…

Makoyouidiot > DipodomysDeserti
07/11/2014 at 10:52

I think you are right on all counts there

Makoyouidiot > N51fanatic
07/11/2014 at 10:53

Agr

Makoyouidiot > N51fanatic
07/11/2014 at 10:55

Agreed

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/11/2014 at 12:05

No.

Makoyouidiot > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/11/2014 at 12:16

Might take that one awhile

Makoyouidiot > therevengeofthesaab (really likes pre-2005 hondas right now)
07/11/2014 at 13:11

Mayhaps.

Makoyouidiot > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
07/11/2014 at 13:12

Good point!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
07/11/2014 at 14:21

And why is that?

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/11/2014 at 14:38

It isn't that special. 2012 Fiat is more special.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
07/11/2014 at 14:42

How is it more special? And it doesn't have to be special to be a classic.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/11/2014 at 14:43

First year of Fiat's return. And I disagree.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
07/11/2014 at 14:51

You have forced me into a genius idea. Because I disagree.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/11/2014 at 14:52

What idea?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
07/11/2014 at 14:52

You'll see. Gimmie 10 minutes.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/11/2014 at 14:54

Ok.

Wacko > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
07/11/2014 at 15:27

I think this is a case of people won't like it any more even when old

Wacko > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
07/11/2014 at 15:29

I don't see any civic, except maybe the CRX become a classic

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/11/2014 at 16:56

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to impress young Jalops with my FieSTa somewhere down the line. I don't know if it will be as legendary as the R5-Turbo, but I suspect it to be at least as adored as MKI GTIs.

Dsscats > N51fanatic
07/11/2014 at 20:02

Hella nope. No on enow a days looks for an E30 and goes, "No, I want a 318i, not a 325i"

Dsscats > therevengeofthesaab (really likes pre-2005 hondas right now)
07/11/2014 at 20:04

Nope on the Cube (because too common and not that fun to drive), but yes on the Kizashi. It was a great car which was a sales flop.

Dsscats > Makoyouidiot
07/11/2014 at 20:08

Kinja'd!!!

My own will be a classic. There were only 90,000 US market cars. I'd say it's pretty safe to say that 15,000 of these have been crashed, stolen or scrapped, so it's got rare covered. It's definitely beautiful, especially with the 99 J Spec bumper (Pictured below). It's quick as an NA, downright fast as a TT and has a huge aftermarket, plus a super dedicated forum of owners. It also had tons of new tech for the time.

Kinja'd!!!

N51fanatic > Dsscats
07/11/2014 at 21:35

Terrible analogy. First of all, have you seen e30 pricing lately? The 318's go for just as much as the 325's. You want to know why? There arent many great examples of either. Which leads me to my second point, how many N54/N55 turbos do you think are going to still be kicking around in 20 years? BMW had to warrany the N54 for 8/100k due to the HPFP failures, you think your going to find a bunch of great running 135i's in 20 years? Cmon bro, try again.

Dsscats > N51fanatic
07/11/2014 at 21:39

I don't know where you are, but where I am 325s go for $1000-$2000 more than 318s, and the 318s are up for much longer. On top of that, most 128i s are ought by people who want it for the badge (and I'd bet 30-40% of owners don't realize they have M package cars), while the actual enthusiasts will get the 135i and tae better care of it.

N51fanatic > Dsscats
07/11/2014 at 22:01

A 4 barrel 289 mustang is more desirable than a 2 barrel 260 right? A 67 SS Camaro is more desirable than an RS of the same year right? No shit. Does that mean the 2 barrel Mustang and the non SS camaro arent classics? GTFOH, of course they are. I'm not sure why you are trying to argue that the 135i is more desirable. Have no clue what/how your rambling on in that second sentence even pertains to the original question poised in the original post.

Dsscats > N51fanatic
07/11/2014 at 22:15

I'm saying 135I=classic

128I=eh

Makoyouidiot > Dsscats
07/11/2014 at 22:26

They are such lovely cars too...I keep seeing ones on CL but they are always either beat to hell or two seaters that the wife won't let me have. :(

Dsscats > Makoyouidiot
07/11/2014 at 22:34

My 4 seater is for sale. It's over priced, but for sale

Makoyouidiot > Dsscats
07/12/2014 at 00:47

I know that feeling, my overpriced 240sx is for sale too.

Dsscats > Makoyouidiot
07/12/2014 at 01:06

I'll show you mine if you show me yours! Ads, that is

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Wacko
07/12/2014 at 01:23