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"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
06/27/2014 at 23:07 • Filed to: None

Which would you buy.

Both are AWD European sedans, Both look great, prices compared to mileage are about the same. One is two years newer, but one has a propeller on the front. The Beamer also has an unfair advantage b/c it can be had with a 6MT.

Personally I'd pick the Volvo on looks alone. Plus I love those "floating" needles on the tach, and speeedo. and it has moar powah(slightly).

pics from G.I.S. cuz I wanted better ones than the dealership ones from Autotrader.

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PS: is there anyway I can put an actual poll on here?

DISCUSSION (53)

Brian Silvestro > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:09

BMW. Very easy question.

PheeNoIVI > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:10

BMW. But I do love Volvos. However the BMW would be a better performer and for mods.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:11

Easy! The Volvo

I love the styling a hell of a lot more, I like the value more. The interior is better. And it doesnt make you seem snobby for owning one.

AM3R > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:11

E90 BMW any day of the week. I'm biased because I have one, but they are amazing. Truly one of the best "modern" BMW's. 335i is also easy to modify and the soft xDrive suspension is easily remedied.

Vicente Esteve > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:15

I would be tempted to go Volvo since the BMW stigma is something I truly dislike. I am not saying that if you have them, you are an asshat. But so many true horrid people have them I still would feel a bit skeptical. Id go for Volvo if it was THAT BMW. I dont like it being AWD since I live near the beach, and I couldnt live with it knowing I couldve bought a manual. Oh, and the Volvo is downright sexy.

ly2v8-Brian > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:17

Neither they are both AWD

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > ly2v8-Brian
06/27/2014 at 23:17

you must not live in a wintery climate.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:18

Volvo it is more rare and it won't make me look like an asshat.

Textured Soy Protein > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:19

I live in a Wisconsin and have a rwd BMW.

I also have a Jeep that I drive in the winter.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:20

What, you can't drive RWD in the snow?

ly2v8-Brian > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:21

I live in Minnesota. I have found AWD/4x4 an unnecessary expenditure. I have driven mostly RWD vehicles with success. My current DD is a 2wd Silverado.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:21

If you are looking for performance, BMW by far. But if you worry about your image go with the Volvo.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > AM3R
06/27/2014 at 23:21

I like to think of the 335xi as a gentleman's Evo. and the funniest thing is it's actually lighter than a EvoX.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Textured Soy Protein
06/27/2014 at 23:25

oh that makes sense too. Honestly these two cars came up while thinking of what car I'd buy for the wife with around 30k. Unlike me she would rather have one newer car than two(or four, or six) older ones. She also wouldn't care if a car was RWD or AWD or FWD in the summer, but she does want AWD for the winter. So buying here one really nice AWD car to have all year round makes more sense.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/27/2014 at 23:26

I can it's just a a PITA.

ly2v8-Brian > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/27/2014 at 23:27

It is really easy to drive RWD in the snow on modern cars, because so many have LSD. At least my truck does anyway.

Textured Soy Protein > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:28

Yeah that totally makes sense. Most people only want 1 car. I'm definitely the silly one.

I'd pick the BMW. I'm sure it's just better to drive.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > ly2v8-Brian
06/27/2014 at 23:28

it's so much less convenient though. I drove a 4x2 Cherokee a few weeks last winter and while it wasn't to bad and was actually tons of fun, there was one or two times it just would clime a hill that even my Civic wouldn't have bat an eye at.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > ly2v8-Brian
06/27/2014 at 23:28

My car has an open diff but the 50/50 weight distribution helps.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro)
06/27/2014 at 23:31

I would love to actually drive them side by side. The Volvo claims to have the same HP, and 25 more ft/lbs, and the curb weights are about the same, but I'm sure despite that the BMW's suspension, and AWD system is much more driver oriented.

ly2v8-Brian > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/27/2014 at 23:31

My first car, an S10, had zero nannies (and terrible weight distribution 'cause truck) so I really learned how to drive in winter with that.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > ly2v8-Brian
06/27/2014 at 23:31

I learned in a Crown Vic.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > PheeNoIVI
06/27/2014 at 23:32

for me the 1-3 year old 30,ooo dollar car would be the one i'd mod. This would be

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ly2v8-Brian > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/27/2014 at 23:34

nice. Everyone should have cars like ours to learn winter driving. Maybe there will be fewer AWD cars in the ditch EVERY snowfall :)

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Textured Soy Protein
06/27/2014 at 23:34

I'm sure in a petal to the floor setting the BMW is better, but I bet just point a-b, or lazy Sunday drive the Volvo is a more pleasant place to be.

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:36

335xi wagon w/ 6mt

ly2v8-Brian > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:38

Comes down to different strokes I guess.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2
06/27/2014 at 23:39

IS THAT A REAL THING! I WANT ONE.

Yup we have a new contender(read as winner)

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/…

Actually it looks like only the 325, and 328 came in that config. :(

AM3R > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:43

Exactly!! I'd go for a RWD model though because RWD + some good snow tires or even great all seasons with some careful driving work well in my area during winter time.

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:44

Peter Pan BMW, lawllll

Ehh, maybe not a 335, but come on.

Textured Soy Protein > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:44

That could very well be the case. Which if that's what you're looking for, great.

But me, I'd take the BMW.

Dsscats > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/27/2014 at 23:51

But a used Evo. Done.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Dsscats
06/27/2014 at 23:59

meh

m-b-w loves his SUBAROO > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 00:19

Volvo S60. It's 2 years newer, and it has an awesome engine and AWD system.

revrseat70 > ly2v8-Brian
06/28/2014 at 00:27

This. Counter-steer just becomes second nature. I've only had RWD cars my whole life (which has been spent above the Mason Dixon and mostly in Minnesota) until very recently. I got my first AWD car a month ago, and I now live in Texas.. go figure

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > m-b-w loves his SUBAROO
06/28/2014 at 00:32

and Ohh boy! does she look good!

mcseanerson > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 00:46

Personal opinion, which means it's more important than yours, I'd rather have rwd with snow tires than awd with all seasons.

mcseanerson > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 00:48

I'd go with the Volvo. That's a fwd car someone was decent enough to grant awd. The BMW is a rwd car someone cursed by turning into awd.

ly2v8-Brian > revrseat70
06/28/2014 at 00:57

You learn to feel the movements of your vehicle and appropriately make the correct adjustments.

m-b-w loves his SUBAROO > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 01:01

Thats also true.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 01:18

Volvo. I'm morally opposed to newer BMW's. They reek of douchery.

Vi517, JDX Racing > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 01:30

Volvo no question. When was the last time you saw a S60 R-Design? Now when was the last time you saw a 335? Exactly. Plus the Volvo is awesome to drive and great to live with.

TheCraigy > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 01:32

BMW. That volvo is just so ick.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > TheCraigy
06/28/2014 at 01:47

I don't like you

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Vi517, JDX Racing
06/28/2014 at 01:50

I don't think I've ever seen an R-Design(stupid name BTW) but there is an S60 this color that I see at least once a week on my home town. I love it. I drool over it much more than any non M 3 series.

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HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 01:59

oh geeze the R design comes in this color

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Spasoje > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 02:08

That's my favorite-gen 3-series but at those asking prices, the Volvo is a better deal. Plus, Volvos are incredibly stress-relieving cars to be in...tough to describe, but you won't not notice this.

If you gotta have one car to do everything, the S60 is the way to go.

jordang1028 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 03:05

BMW for sure. With new Volvo reliability the BM might even be cheaper to maintain. And I personally dont like the styling of most new Volvos...Now my old 740...that one was a looker :)

bobkustofawitshz > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 09:36

BMW, and I don't have to think twice about it.

Rear-biased AWD vs. FWD-based AWD.

BMW is available with a 6-speed manual (major points)

The BMW interior is much more appealing to me (especially in this case without the iDrive hump!) Plus I never really liked the headlamp design on that generation of S60. Kinda goofy IMHO. Throw some sport suspension upgrades and a set of snows on the 3, and you've got my ideal 4-season DD.

TheCraigy > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 11:47

Can't argue with that :D

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > TheCraigy
06/28/2014 at 11:55

after watching a few review vids i'm a little sad. The Volvo a 40-50,000 dollar "sports" sedan in 2014(still the same trans for the last 4 years or so) still has a sluchbox auto with no paddle shifters.

TheCraigy > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/28/2014 at 12:24

This guy is great to watch.

I think Volvo used to have better looking stuff but somehow their design & r&d departments got lazy. I think they peaked maybe 8-10 years ago. For the money, might as well buy the actual luxury brand.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > TheCraigy
06/28/2014 at 12:44

He does do some great reviews and he is funny. Plus he actually talks about the annoying things, and let downs of the car, not just how great it is. Nothing worse than annoying car review host that does nothing but talk about how great every single car is. Looking at you motorweek.